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Old November 2nd, 2003, 11:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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buying my first pedalboard

i have found the need to have a few basic effects when needed. i've always plugged my guitar into my amp and played.

the question is what am i looking for in a pedal board? i'm talking maybe 5 pedals, including a tuner. mostly boss, but maybe an mxr dynacomp.

nothing fancy, just serviceable. any suggestions? anythign to avoid?

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Old November 2nd, 2003, 11:52 AM   #2 (permalink)
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What, exactly, are you asking about?

Are you asking how to make a pedal board (materials, etc.), or are you asking what pedals to put on it? Or are you asking how to power it? Or all of the above? :)

Of course, most of us have opinions about all of those things and wouldn't mind talking about any of them...
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Old November 2nd, 2003, 12:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Pedalboards

I use an SKB. I think you'll find it has it's share of fans and critics. I needed the convenience of a powered board (powers up to six pedals, with a variety of power cords) and a carrying bag - which the SKB had. I've experienced none of the issues, related to the power supply, that some complain about. The SKB also has two loops (which I don't use). I've had mine for a few years, now, and it's served me well. I've seen used ones for well under $100.
If you're somewhat handy, you could make yourself a board that suits your needs and size requirements. All you need is a platform (e.g., plywood), some carpeting or velcro-type material, some metal edging, and a couple of handles. If you want power for your board, Voodoo Labs' Pedal Power is highly recommended.
There are several "custom" board manufacturers out there. I'll let others chime in on those.
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Old November 3rd, 2003, 09:47 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I also use the SKB, and I like for the same reasons - reasonable available power, and a gig bag with a shoulder strap. I like that I can carry the board with a guitar and still open doors. It's probably not the most roadworthy option if you gig constantly, but it's nice for studio or rehearsals, since it's relatively low profile and portable.
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Old November 3rd, 2003, 10:09 AM   #5 (permalink)
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another vote for the SKB...

I use it even when I'n not using pedals...holds plenty, self powered and convienent as heck..as far as road worthy...been using it for about 4 1/2 years and no problems yet...I did buy an extra power adapter cause I thought that I would need it but I never did...holds strings, cleaner, rags etc....great deal....don
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Old November 3rd, 2003, 10:27 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I've got an SKB that I've outgrown. Send me some email.
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Old November 3rd, 2003, 11:31 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I used a pre-fab bookshelf board

I went to Lowe's and got a pre-fab piece of bookshelf, some industrial-strength Velcro and just stuck the velcro to the board. I use a Godlyke Powerall for power. It's one wall wart instead of many and it has little cord adaptors for most pedals. The pre-fab bookshelf is nicely finished and is just the right size for a half-dozen pedals with space in-between. You could get fancier and screw some handles into each side but I don't see the need. The other half of the industrial-strength Velcro goes on the pedals, of course. I carry the whole thing in my kit bag.
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Old November 4th, 2003, 01:13 AM   #8 (permalink)
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There was an article online sometime back about this. Here is what i basically did and got pretty good results:

Go to lowes, home depot, etc...Look for a bookshelf type material, I bought a 4 ft by about 2 for around $9. I then went and found ozite(I think it's called,) it is like a black somewhat carpet like material, they have the huge rolls. Describe to them what it looks like and they should be able to find it, it's on the huge machines. Buy some velcro and velcro the pedals down, you can put handles and metal edges like other people suggested, I didn't bother doing it. As far as a power supply goes..I bought a signaflex, it powers 5 indivudal pedals, it was around $40 3 years ago. I then needed more, so I took my boss psa adapter, and bought one of those ibanez adapters that takes your power and splits it so you can power up individual pedals. I would really suggest doing it yourself, they really cheat you out of money when you buy them. Except for maybe the furman one, it seems pretty cool.
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Old November 4th, 2003, 10:09 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Do a search in this forum...there's been a few discussions on this.

My first was just a shelf from Lowes that I painted black and covered with velcro...then added feet. For less than $30 it was fine.

Then I found a pedaltrain on Harmony Central. It's just a simple aluminum frame ...almost like a wide ladder. The pedals are velcroed to the rungs and the wires route between the rungs. It came with a nice case. For about $100 (used) it's simple, logical and indestructable.

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Old November 4th, 2003, 03:55 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Old November 4th, 2003, 04:21 PM   #11 (permalink)
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DC Case

I have one from DC Case which I really like.

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Old November 5th, 2003, 08:11 AM   #12 (permalink)
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THIS cost me $10!



I went to my local student furniture shop and bought two boards of plywood.
The pedals are held with 3M Dual lock.
The power supply is a $25 VISUAL SOUND ONE SPOT that is the best one you will ever find...

It now resides in a custom made road case that cost $300 ..... :)
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Old November 5th, 2003, 03:04 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I'll second the Pedal Train

This was recommended to me by Bill Hullet, Tele Guru and all around nice guy. Big, wide aluminum tracks covered with Velcro, it's jsut big enough not to be a pain. The heavy duty suitcase is a nice extra for all the dings and dents from loading and unloading. Mine's been around the world and back, no problem. Email me for a pic if you'd like.
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Old November 5th, 2003, 03:25 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Yep the Pedal Train is great for fewer pedals....
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Old November 5th, 2003, 03:28 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Nick, you are a true Pedalmeister!

I was just adding an A/B box to mine last night and wondering what to eliminate. After seeing your board, I have one more reason to feel "inadequate." ;-) Hope all's well in the Cradle of Philosophy!
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Old November 5th, 2003, 05:17 PM   #16 (permalink)
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well unfortunatelly not much of philosophy left around these parts
most people are stuck in a rat race (only that the prices are higher,the pay is lower and the hours are longer than in the US...)
Still MUSIC,pedals and guitars keep me alive :)
I have to use all these pedals since I play in a trio with a singer and I have to cover lots of sonic ground.It looks complicated but it is actually very simple....

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Old November 6th, 2003, 12:04 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Nick - a question about actually using all those pedals - do you plan when you're going to use each pedal beforehand, or do you improvise on the fly. I end up going pedal-crazy unless I have a plan...
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Old November 6th, 2003, 02:25 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Always w/ a plan buddy-always w/ a plan.
Except in those moments were I really want to go crazy
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Old November 12th, 2003, 10:36 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Anyone use an NGM? I have one of the standard models, and I sort of regret getting it. I got it a few years ago in my 'pedal days'. It's huge, and heavy. Doesn't have any built in features, I use a GE powerstrip feeding my Boss TU2, then daisy chain a the rest off of that. The one thing I did like, is the second level board. I was able to squeeze my wireless unit in totally out of the way and hidden from the board. I have to hack it up a little this weekend to wedge my volume pedal in there. Fun stuff!
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Old November 22nd, 2003, 03:56 AM   #20 (permalink)
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I too have a pedal board from DC Cases. A great board for a low price. I use mine every weekend and it works great
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Old November 22nd, 2003, 11:09 PM   #21 (permalink)
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SKB story

I also use the SKB pedalboard. I have about 6 pedals on it. I love it! It has the carrying case and is very convenient. I bought it a couple of years ago and I've used it every weekend. About A year ago I started having problems with the power cutting out on it. What did I do? I sent it back to SKB and they replaced it with A brand new one, of course I had to pay the shipping. I haven't had a problem since. I love my SKB pedalboard and there lifetime warranty!
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Old November 23rd, 2003, 06:50 PM   #22 (permalink)
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DC Case Pedalboards?

Ok, a couple have mentioned these but I have to wonder about the el cheapo prices and build/durability quality... There's good eBay feedback on the manufacturer/seller but has anyone tried these DC Case pedalboards on eBay in real life/gig-tested situations?
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Old November 23rd, 2003, 08:52 PM   #23 (permalink)
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These pedal boards have some nice features but they dont look as nice as some of the "road case" style PB's Ive seen.

http://www.acmeguitarworks.com/store...Product_ID=498
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Old November 25th, 2003, 05:26 PM   #24 (permalink)
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still doing the hand built thing...

that way i can configure each pedalboard dimensionally to the pedals i've decided on after a bit of research.

plywood, no skid tape, velcro - all cheap stuff.

i don't like power supplies - batteries are one of my few vices. i pack lots of spares - and a little multimeter to check the juice.

if you're talking 5 pedals or less, this could be the way to go.

nothing against SKB or any other manufacturer - i just hate spending money on 'guitar accessories'. plus when you build it yourself you can tailor it to your exact needs, or modify it as need be.

you can also make it more bulletproof by adding metal to the corners - many cheap low tech methods you can come up with on your own. you can add a handle or 2, fabricate a lid for the thing...

also, if you're just using Boss pedals, you might be able to find some of those plastic things they made that held like 3 pedals or so - i saw Redd V. and Bill Kirchen using them a couple of years ago...
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