Boss CS-3 and Boss DD-3, for getting quick-slap country twang

[igorBG]

Hi. I have watched instructional video, in which one country guitar player is using compressor and delay to increase Tele twang sound. I cannot achieve that.
I beleive that many of you is using use Boss CS-3 Compressor and Boss DD3-Delay, so if any of you knows what I am talking about, please send me the exact settings (for each pot like: Tone 3 o'clock, Feedback 9 o'clock etc) for this

I have noticed that when I use quick slap on DD3, sometimes I hear cracking sounds, like pedal is not processing this signal good, or maybe it is something with the amp

Here is a link to this video:
http://www.freeguitarvideos.com/LJ2/LJ2T05a.html
click on Quick time link

[igorBG]

Any?

[Mojohand40]

Well, I don't have a cs-3, I have an old Cs-2 though. (The diff is the Cs-2 doesn't have a tone knobe like the cs-3). I useally set mine like so:
Level: Basically I adjust this by switching on and off the unit and trying to get it so it's just a very (very) slight boost in volume when I engage it. This will vary from guitar to guitar to amp to amp, so play with it. Generally, around 12:00
Attack: I useally set it at around 1:00-2:00.
Sustain: 11:00-12:00.
Also put the comp first in you chain right after your guitar.
As for the DD-3. Again, I don't have a dd-3, and typically just use spring reverb built into my amp, but when I want a slap back I just want a very quick delay with a single repeat. I think on the DD-3 that means the F-back knob is adjusted down to get single repeat and "time" would also be down. Subtle is the key.
Also (most important) play with your tone knob on your tele and amp. These will get you some twang as will playing with the bridge pup (pick closer to the bridge? adjust pup height? etc. a lot of variables that have little to do with pedals.)
I hope this helps a little and I hope some others chime in too add their two cents.

[igorBG]

Yes, it helps thanks
CS3 is on the first place in my chain. Delay is on last place
One more thing, I never understood Attack pot on compressor.
Can you please explain me what exactly it does? I tried to determine the difference when it is on extreme positions and it sounds like to me that it acts like limiter. And when it is in the start position (07:00) it has wide range of limit, and when you push it to the maximum, it range is more narrow. For example, if you play two notes, one quiet, and other loud, on the first position (07:00) they will have the same volume. The more you push Attack up, difference in volume between these two notes is bigger.
Or maybe this is just side effect, and atack is basically, time when compressor will start to react after string is hit.

[TB72]

The attack knob controls when the compression effect kicks in. As you have seen and heard, the higher the attack knob is set, the longer it takes for your signal to be compressed. This preserves the dynamics of your picking attack (hence the name, I guess).

Personally, I prefer the attack to be more or less maxed out. That way I retain every nuance of my picking, and the compressor can still do its' thing on sustained notes.

I don't have my CS-3 anymore. I switched to a Keeley. The keeley is the two-knob version. It doesn't have an attack knob on the outside. You can, however, control it via an internal trimpot. The factory setting is full-up, so I didn't need to change anything for my taste.


As far as slap delay is concerned, subtle is the key (as has already been mentioned). You'll want the level of the slap to be just a bit lower than the original note. You'll want the feedback all the way off (so you only hear one repeat). Delay time will be somewhere in the 50-125 ms range (that would be in around 8 or 9 o'clock on the dial...use your ears, and you'll get it.). The time will vary depending on the tempo of the song you're playing, so mess around with it...I'm sure you'll know it when you hear it.

Later...

[sudancat]

Make sure guitar vol is all the way up. CS-3 seems to sound better when guitar vol is all the way.

CS3: Tone 9oclock
attack 3oclock
sustain 10 to 12 oclock

DD3: effect level 11 oclock
f back 11oclock
d time 9oclock
mode L. 800ms




But the biggest way to get that that country twang with slapback is chicken pickin,and I cant do it! Those that can are awesome

[igorBG]

Great
I will try tomorrow, what I get my pedals back.
About CS3, it is the same settings I use, tone and attack almost full, and sutain around 11:00. I found that any other settings on CS-3 affects tone more, and guitar start sounding too sterile.

[sudancat]

On the CS3, When I first started using it I hated it. the more I experimented the more I learned and began liking it,especially playing country.The tone was my biggest hurdle,but with some fine adjustments on the amp and tele I got it where I like it.My tele had a .22 cap on the tone and I switched it to a .47 cap,which made a difference. CS3 Tone on mine is about 9oclock,anymore it starts to sound to bright. The settings I use I get that snap or pop and with the combination of the DD3 with the echo and delay,it gives it a nice slapback.I also found the guitar vol has to be all the way up in order to really hear what the compressor is doing,especially with the pop. Now, a good friend of mine and a great tele player who plays lead and chicken pics uses the same equipment and basically the same settings except he uses the DD6,but he used to use the DD3, DD6 just gives him a little extra options.

But, we can play side by side with basically the same equipment and we sound nothing alike.He is much better!
Its been said and proven, alot of your sound and tone come out of your playing technique,(dem fingers) which I hope one day that my fingers will let some of that good mojo out.

Again, this works for me and there is a whole lot out there who would prefer a more boutique pedal or likes a different setting, but I think alot of the country players will agree the CS3 or 2 and the Boss Delay pedals add alot to country playing and do a good job.

[Sarge]

I found the stock CS-3 to be way to noisey and too much accentuation of the pick attack on the strings. I sent it out to Humphries Audio for his CS-3 mod and it came back a really great pedal. $45 including shipping and now it's everything I hoped for on the Boss, and quickly becoming my most used pedal.

[igorBG]

Originally Posted by sudancat

Make sure guitar vol is all the way up. CS-3 seems to sound better when guitar vol is all the way.

CS3: Tone 9oclock
attack 3oclock
sustain 10 to 12 oclock

DD3: effect level 11 oclock
f back 11oclock
d time 9oclock
mode L. 800ms




But the biggest way to get that that country twang with slapback is chicken pickin,and I cant do it! Those that can are awesome

I have tried this settings. It's great. But in video from my original post, that guy said thjat delay should be around 100ms.

I imagine that quick slap, should be hardly heards, and this settings that you have recomennded is mch slower that that. Thanks anyway