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Old August 22nd, 2003, 03:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What is the best pedal order?

I have been experimenting with the order of my pedals. What would you guys say is the best sequence for my effects, or does it make a difference?

1. RT. 66 OD
2. Boss CS-3 Compressor
3. Boss DD-2 Delay
4. Boss TU-2 Tuner
5. Vintage Small Stone Flange

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Old August 22nd, 2003, 04:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well let's see....

I like flange before OD because it sounds more organic (some folks prefer all time-based effects toward the end of the chain).... but you don't want a modulation effect like flange before the TU-2, as it can whack out the tuning stability... OD's sound much smoother to me with the tuner after, not before them, or out of the chain entirely, if possible...the only circumstances in which I would *not* place a delay last are a.) if the amp is high gain, in which case I would place the delay in an FX loop (if the amp has one), as the repeats can be nasty & distorted, or b.) if there's a boost or other device in front of the delay that creates such a db boost that it overdrives the input of the delay - this is more of a problem with delays that have low headroom, such as the Maxon AD-80 ... compression *before* OD promotes "singing sustain", i.e. "gooses" the OD, but rounds off the edges & sacrifices some dynamics & transients; compression *after* OD retains more dynamics but will not "sing" as much (and is usually quieter, as well); in this case the comp. "boosts" the OD, as opposed to "goosing" it - I prefer comp > OD, but that's just me... interesting that the Rt. 66 also has a compression circuit - do you prefer the comp. of the Boss, or how do you approach that?

There's no "right or wrong" that I've found, the best thing to do is experiment...

But without knowing your amp or other gear, the compromise I would choose is this:

guitar > comp. > OD > tuner > flange > delay > amp

Hope that helps.
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Old August 22nd, 2003, 04:33 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It's all preference - and amp choice

My preference would be -

Guitar - TU2 - CS3 - RT66 - DD2 - SmallStone

It is a very subtle difference, but I like the TU2 at the very front of my signal chain.

Also, since that RT66 is basically an MXR Dyna Comp then a TS9 in one pedal, you may want to try the CS3 both before and after the RT66.

Also, your amp of choice would be a big factor in this too...and how does it sound with no pedals on at all? ...sparkley clean, or slightly dirty?
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Old August 22nd, 2003, 05:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Using a Blackface Twin with pedals

Yes, I don't use the Compressor in the RT66 because it is to noisy. I prefer not using any pedals at all, but I never know when I'm gonna need them. Too bad there isn't a true bypass switch for all these.
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Old August 22nd, 2003, 06:09 PM   #5 (permalink)
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First of all put the R66 INFRONT of everything, it has a built in low impendance buffer that does WONDERS by presserving your signal.If I was you I would use the R66 compressor as my main clean boost and sustain unit cause it is WAY better than the BOSS.

You can always use the BOSS for heavy comp.or big boost.

you will get great results with flg seq.:

RT. 66 OD ->TU2->CS3->SST->DD2
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Old August 23rd, 2003, 03:47 AM   #6 (permalink)
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this is my set up

wah first , then dist , then delay
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Old August 24th, 2003, 09:19 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I do this...

Tele>Jackhammer od>Fender Concert.

In the fx loop: Marshall ed1>Dan-Echo>Phase90>Marshall Vibratrem> TU-2 tuner.

Similar to many of the posts above. From the TDPRI it is often expounded that your overdrives and compressors should be at the top of the chain. I found it preferable.
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Old August 25th, 2003, 08:12 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I run my Boss Pedals in this order:

Tuner
Comp
EQ
OD/Distortion
Delay
Chorus


Some folks like the EQ after the Distortion/OD's but I use it more for my clean sound than to tighten up my OD tones.
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