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emanix11 · October 5th, 2006, 02:55 PM

Hi all,
I have been reading the boards for quite some time and this is my first post, and I've got a question. I just bought a "Bad Monkey" (thanks to the rave reviews on this board) and added it to my current chain which looked like this: Fender PT-100 tuner > BOSS DS-1 > MXR Phase 90 > BOSS DD-3. I put the "Bad Monkey" between the PT-100 and the DS-1. Thinking along the lines of "more pedals = more noise" I thought since the "Bad Monkey" has a second output (designed for mixers) that I could connect the tuner to that output effectively removing a pedal from my chain. Granted it's a POS Fender tuner (I didn't believe a tuner could possible suck that much.

) but will I be making the tuner more inaccurate (hard to believe that's possible), or would there be any other adverse effects to my setup?

Thanks

cvansickle · October 5th, 2006, 03:16 PM

I wouldn't rely on the tuner to be accurate when the Bad Monkey was switched on, as it could be overloading the tuner's input. If the Monkey is off, there shouldn't be a problem.

Captain Crunch · October 5th, 2006, 08:42 PM

I've done something similar with the second output on my DigiDelay. Works fine.

emanix11 · October 5th, 2006, 10:42 PM

That's what I thought, just wanted to make sure though. Thanks again.

genelovesjez · October 6th, 2006, 01:46 AM

It should work fine, but I'm not sure you are effectively removing a pedal from your chain. Check this article for details.

telecaster69 · October 6th, 2006, 09:04 PM

Your tuner should be first....or after only a noise supressor or something else that has a mute function you don't want to tune with any kind of effect on your notes..you want a clean signal going to your tuner, and if you can...mute your amp...like using a volume pedal...or the NS-1 has a mute function....

aaron6789 · October 6th, 2006, 11:52 PM

Granted I don't use many effects, but for years I've used an A/B box with one output dedicated to my tuner and the other to whatever effects were there at the time with good results. Usually everything (including the A/B box) except maybe a boost or OD is in the effects loop, but experimentation with your own gear is the best way to find out what goes where.

October 5th, 2006, 02:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
emanix11 NEW MEMBER! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: PA Age: 25 Posts: 3	Tuner Location? Hi all, I have been reading the boards for quite some time and this is my first post, and I've got a question. I just bought a "Bad Monkey" (thanks to the rave reviews on this board) and added it to my current chain which looked like this: Fender PT-100 tuner > BOSS DS-1 > MXR Phase 90 > BOSS DD-3. I put the "Bad Monkey" between the PT-100 and the DS-1. Thinking along the lines of "more pedals = more noise" I thought since the "Bad Monkey" has a second output (designed for mixers) that I could connect the tuner to that output effectively removing a pedal from my chain. Granted it's a POS Fender tuner (I didn't believe a tuner could possible suck that much. ) but will I be making the tuner more inaccurate (hard to believe that's possible), or would there be any other adverse effects to my setup? Thanks

October 5th, 2006, 03:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
cvansickle Tele-Holic Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA USA Posts: 741 5 Photos	I wouldn't rely on the tuner to be accurate when the Bad Monkey was switched on, as it could be overloading the tuner's input. If the Monkey is off, there shouldn't be a problem. __________________ Death Or Glory - Who Dares Wins!

October 5th, 2006, 08:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
Captain Crunch TDPRI Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Antioch, IL. Posts: 18	I've done something similar with the second output on my DigiDelay. Works fine. __________________ No pain, just gain & twang

October 6th, 2006, 09:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
telecaster69 Tele-Meister Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Chico, CA Age: 35 Posts: 261	Your tuner should be first....or after only a noise supressor or something else that has a mute function you don't want to tune with any kind of effect on your notes..you want a clean signal going to your tuner, and if you can...mute your amp...like using a volume pedal...or the NS-1 has a mute function.... __________________ Taylor 310 Acoustic with LR Baggs ibeam. Gold Tuners with Ebony buttons 2004 Telecaster w/hotrails, lckng tuners Fender Powerchorus Amp 2x12" Aphex Aural Exciter pedal HBE Big D distortion pedal.

October 5th, 2006, 10:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
emanix11 NEW MEMBER! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: PA Age: 25 Posts: 3	That's what I thought, just wanted to make sure though. Thanks again.

October 6th, 2006, 01:46 AM	#5 (permalink)
genelovesjez Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Age: 42 Posts: 3,736	It should work fine, but I'm not sure you are effectively removing a pedal from your chain. Check this article for details.

October 6th, 2006, 11:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
aaron6789 TDPRI Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Southeast OH Age: 44 Posts: 57 7 Photos	Granted I don't use many effects, but for years I've used an A/B box with one output dedicated to my tuner and the other to whatever effects were there at the time with good results. Usually everything (including the A/B box) except maybe a boost or OD is in the effects loop, but experimentation with your own gear is the best way to find out what goes where.

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