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Old September 12th, 2008, 05:46 AM   #641 (permalink)
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Signal path...

>>I/O box (basic master I/O patch box that is wired to switch between an all-in-front setup and a 4 cable rig that takes advantage of the amp effects loop...also has hard bypass for a tuner. I don't have enough cables to take advantage of it, but I'll remedy that with some bulk mogami cable and neutrik plugs soon enough)
>>Compressor
>>Wah
>>Whammy
>>Deja Vibe
>>Blues Driver
>>Tube Screamer
>>MXR Delay (set for approx. 420ms, ~7% mix with around 4 or 5 audible repeats)
>>Boss Delay (set for approx 300ms, ~10% mix with about 10 repeats)
>>Choral Flange

The Whammy just went on today...used for so many things. The wah is still set to get an 18 volt upgrade along with a booster section (aft wah) that will switch on with the wah itself.

The BD-2/TS-9 combo will most likely drop after I finish building my custom overdrive pedal (if I ever finalize a design)...great combination of pedals though. The TS-9 has gone through some pretty heavy mods over the years...I can't even remember what's in it now, I only know that I think is sounds as good as it can get. The BD-2 is stock, but works very well with the TS-9. The custom overdrive I'm working on has a lot of range and it has a MOSFET gain booster as a second stage that can be switched in and out via footswitch. Hope to start work on it soon.

I plan on dropping the Boss delay as soon as the BYOC analog delay comes out. When I order that wonderful beast, I'll probably try the optical compressor as well.

I've never been the type to settle on a pedalboard setup. I always end up changing it, swapping pedals in and out (I've got about 9 more stashed in a drawer that are currently out of favor with me) and tearing the stomps apart trying to mod them to a better flavor. I think I'm healing...the Fulltone boxes and the MXR delay are beatiful and I can't really dream how they could get any better.

I was also thinking about trying a Zendrive and maybe a BB Preamp...any thoughts?

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Old September 13th, 2008, 10:08 AM   #643 (permalink)
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I didn't see any sort of 'introduce yourself' thread, so I figure this is as good a first post as any. Tele is in pieces currently, so that's my Jazzmaster(ish...thing...) I built, there...



And the rest of 'em...


You'll note I need to get myself an actual pedal board and some more patch cables for the looper (a few have slipped through the cracks during a move).
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Old September 13th, 2008, 05:01 PM   #644 (permalink)
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Old September 14th, 2008, 01:04 PM   #645 (permalink)
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Very basic... but I would've made a pig's ear of anything more ambitious - it does have two different sizes of rubber feet to give it a slight slant, though.

I haven't checked that this all works yet because I need to get a different 1-spot adaptor for the Rat.

The Rat will soon be replaced with a Crowther Hotcake, and I hope to fill the other space with an MXr Phaser and a BBE Sonic Stomp.
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Old September 15th, 2008, 01:01 AM   #646 (permalink)
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My board fell apart, so i have to build a decent one instead of a crappy one in 5 min haha.
I use mostly Digitech for some reason, i dunno why, but i like them, no complaints =)


For my metal moments


Very versatile, i love it!


Also extremely flexible, every delay type i could need, and i can even warp the repeats on the tape setting, truely awesome

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Old September 15th, 2008, 01:02 AM   #647 (permalink)
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For as complex as my other pedals are, i like this one for its simplicity. Great sound outta this phaser, and i don't normally like them haha.


just about any type of distortion i could ever want. Includes Ibanez TS-9, DOD Overdrive/Preamp 250, BOSS DS-1, Pro Co Rat, BOSS Metal Zone, DigiTech Metal Master, Electro-Harmonix Big Muff


I can get all sorts of awesome sounds out of this thing, from volume sensitive auto wah, to crazy filters. i have wasted days playing with this thing.

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Old September 15th, 2008, 01:03 AM   #648 (permalink)
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my "Real" wah, Hendrix fuzz wah, with a switch and potentiometer on one side for fuzz, and a switch on the other for the order of the wah and fuzz. amazing pedal.


Foot switch for the amp, on switch for channel select, another for intensity of distortion.


This little guy had a melt down and won't output a distorted signal, i have to buy another module for it. oh well. awesome range of distortion, and a built in noise gate. i love it haha.


i use this for quite practicing. good little multi effects, but not so great for jamming/ gigging.



so yeah, thats my set up.
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Old September 15th, 2008, 01:26 AM   #649 (permalink)
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Old September 15th, 2008, 05:35 AM   #650 (permalink)
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latest incarnation, with new warwich powered board. and addition of a toadworks john bull overdrive given to me by Brent Mason. i have also got rid of the boss sd-1.

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Here's a pic of my pedal board updated. I got rid of some pedals I wasn't using much and moved it to a smaller more transportable set up. It's powered with a Pedal Snake cable to cut down on cable clutter.

All the pedals are screwed into the plywood base and run through a switch box to help cut down on the pedal board two step. The tuner and the compressor are the only two pedals permanently in the signal chain........

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Old September 17th, 2008, 10:10 PM   #653 (permalink)
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Here's a pic of my pedal board updated. I got rid of some pedals I wasn't using much and moved it to a smaller more transportable set up. It's powered with a Pedal Snake cable to cut down on cable clutter.

All the pedals are screwed into the plywood base and run through a switch box to help cut down on the pedal board two step. The tuner and the compressor are the only two pedals permanently in the signal chain........

very nice!
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Old September 18th, 2008, 01:02 AM   #654 (permalink)
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guitar > A/B switch to Fender stage tuner /
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Danelectro Tuna Melt Tremolo
BBE Sonic Stomp > amp
The observant will note that the locations of the pedals on the board don't correspond to the signal chain order. Everything is where it is for a reason - the ones that need to get switched in the heat of performing (the J&H and the wah) are where the foot can find 'em and nothing is close enough to get switched on or off by mistake. The BBE is on 100% of the time, and the Tuna Melt only gets switched between songs.

Oh, and the round hole in the upper right corner fits the rubber feet on my mic stand, to hold it in place when necessary.
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The latest incarnation:

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Dunlop Cry Baby wah
Visual Sound Jekyll & Hyde
Danelectro Tuna Melt Tremolo
BBE Sonic Stomp > amp
The observant will note that the locations of the pedals on the board don't correspond to the signal chain order. Everything is where it is for a reason - the ones that need to get switched in the heat of performing (the J&H and the wah) are where the foot can find 'em and nothing is close enough to get switched on or off by mistake. The BBE is on 100% of the time, and the Tuna Melt only gets switched between songs.

Oh, and the round hole in the upper right corner fits the rubber feet on my mic stand, to hold it in place when necessary.
How's that Jeckyll & Hyde? I'm always looking for new distortion pedals, and im wondering what your impression is
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Here's a pic of my pedal board updated. I got rid of some pedals I wasn't using much and moved it to a smaller more transportable set up. It's powered with a Pedal Snake cable to cut down on cable clutter.

All the pedals are screwed into the plywood base and run through a switch box to help cut down on the pedal board two step. The tuner and the compressor are the only two pedals permanently in the signal chain........

Nice board! I have an Umble too, except I built it from the kit. It's the one in the middle.

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Nice board! I have an Umble too, except I built it from the kit. It's the one in the middle.

What do ya think of the Umble? What settings are you using on yours? I'm still messing with this one chasing that Dumble tone.

Love the sound but not sure if it's the equivalent of a GSR or a Zendrive.
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What do ya think of the Umble? What settings are you using on yours? I'm still messing with this one chasing that Dumble tone.

Love the sound but not sure if it's the equivalent of a GSR or a Zendrive.
Well, I haven't tried the GSR or the Zendrive, so I can't compare. Those two are almost the same circuit, but the Umble is a much different design, in that it actually mimics the Dumble preamp circuit, using JFETs in place of tubes. The GSR & Zen are somewhat similar in design to a Tubescreamer, though heavily modified.

Now, that may or may not translated into an authentic Dumble sound. I don't know, I really bought it because I liked the clips, not because I necessarily care about the "Dumble sound" per se.

It is pretty bass heavy, which probably works out better in an amp than in a pedal. So usually I keep the bass down at 9:00, the mids at either 9:00 or 12:00, and the treble at 12:00. Or, bass and treble all the way down, and mids all the up for a fairly flat sound.

I've actually modified mine to sound more like a Fender blackface. The Dumble tone stack is more or less a copy of the Vox, but with Fender values. The end result is a dip in the upper mids, whereas in a Fender you get a dip in the lower mids. A couple of cap changes brought the tone response into blackface territory. I also switched out the 4.7 uF bypass caps for a 22 uF bypass caps, though I don't know how much difference that made. And, I replaced the 500k bass pot for a 250k pot, since I thought it had too much bass.

I'm also using medium gain 2N5457 JFETs instead of the recommended J201s, which are higher gain. The stock Umble had more gain than I needed.

I don't know that it sounds Dumble-like now, but it does sound very refined and smooth. I may play around with it a little more.

Anyway, those settings I mentioned work well for the stock Umble as well as the modded one.
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(everything after the Boosta Grande placed out of convenience with the cable lengths I had )
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How's that Jeckyll & Hyde? I'm always looking for new distortion pedals, and im wondering what your impression is
I love it. Having the two stages makes it very versatile - you can dial in just the flavor and level of crunch you want.
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This is mine. My usual set up is to have the gain on the OD1 channel of my Marshall AVT100 at 12 o'clock and use the Bad Monkey as a solo boost. If I'm using my Strat which has a lipstick bridge pickup, I'll use the Snakebite Distortion and the Marshall's clean channel. I bought the Snakebite from a guy on Ebay who'd made it himself. I think I paid about £40. It has a boost footswitch as well as the distortion switch. It sounds great and the snakes' eyes light up when I play!

I get confused if I have more than two switches to choose from. There have been times when I've jumped on a pedal expecting to go from crunchy rhythm to a singing lead tone, only to find I'd turned the distortion off and I was now playing a bad banjo solo.

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I love it. Having the two stages makes it very versatile - you can dial in just the flavor and level of crunch you want.

+1 on the Jekyll & Hyde, I run mine after the fulldrive 2 and stacking them can really put you over the top! it's like having 8 different types of dirt at your feet... you've just got to love trying different combinations! sometimes I'll even put the Bad Monkey after both of them, you just never know what you're going to find inspiring.
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Very basic... but I would've made a pig's ear of anything more ambitious - it does have two different sizes of rubber feet to give it a slight slant, though.

I haven't checked that this all works yet because I need to get a different 1-spot adaptor for the Rat.

The Rat will soon be replaced with a Crowther Hotcake, and I hope to fill the other space with an MXr Phaser and a BBE Sonic Stomp.
Looks great!
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DT-10 > Monsterpiece NPN > Route 66 > Crunchbox > Boosta Grande > Nano Small Stone > Chorus Factory > EB Volume Jr. > Digidelay > Cool Cat trem

(everything after the Boosta Grande placed out of convenience with the cable lengths I had )
How do you like the CoolCat trem?
I've heard those CoolCat pedals are really good, but I'm always a bit wary about trem pedals that don't have a seperate volume pot (as most trem pedals seem to have a volume drop when switched on).
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This is all I need...for now. a small, old laptop case with 3 of my trusty pedals. Although I don't really use the Crunchbox anymore. It's more of for the times when I have to play or jam without the use of my Laney, when I really need a distortion pedal. Otherwise it's just the maxon and the ocd. I'm planning to get a chorus in the future. Maybe a Small Clone, or I might go all the way with a Maxon...



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I've heard those CoolCat pedals are really good, but I'm always a bit wary about trem pedals that don't have a seperate volume pot (as most trem pedals seem to have a volume drop when switched on).
It's OK... no volume drop or treble bosst, and it's true bypass, but it adds a bit of dirt, like the Tuna Melt. Seems to be a nice sturdy case and switch (so far).
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What you see here is a simplification. The spiral lead comes from a tele into a phaser. Then we have an overdrive pedal there followed by AB-box where the signal is divided into two amps.

The first one would be a Pro Reverb vibrato channel from where the signal goes into a Red repeat delay (positioned on the top pf the amp) and from ther into another amp, mostly a Musicmaster bass.

Another line from AB-box goes into normal channel of the Pro Reverb cranked up. In between there may be more weird pedals that are not shown, but typically eat upper frequenicies even when turned off. Like Coron Funk Box or Octaver. Or more distortion pedals. That's why there's a few empty powerlines shown.

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I've changed her up a little but this is the last pic that I have. My favorites are my Keeley Blues Driver and Keeley Compressor. The Blues Driver was briefly replaced on the board with a Fuzz Head, but the BD is back on the now.

I also don't know what I'd do without my true bypass strip. Just makes life so much easier. While I'm at it, I can't say enough about my Guyatone Micro Tuner. I must have had her for 6 years now - no issues, accurate, small, and when she powers on it displays "H - E - L - L - O"!




The pedal on the top - second from the right is actually this one. She's a Ram's Head Big Muff clone built by Montgomery Appliances. Great pedal - HUGE sound, and some of the coolest knobs ever.


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i realize you're a long way from the USA, but what info do you have on the Crunchbox mod and who does it? i assume it adjust the internal trim pot, externally?
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Looks like the internal trip pot has been moved to the outside. You can do the mod yourself...it's not hard.
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i realize you're a long way from the USA, but what info do you have on the Crunchbox mod and who does it? i assume it adjust the internal trim pot, externally?
yea it's supposed to be an easy job but i did not do it. I bought it used and modded, so i'm not entirely sure myself. it's an external pot mod, and simply makes the internal trimpot easily adjusted from the outside

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Looks like the internal trip pot has been moved to the outside. You can do the mod yourself...it's not hard.
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