Looking for a Marshall-style overdrive!

t0m · May 8th, 2006, 07:03 AM

Hi, this is my first post here, its a helpful forum so I thought I'd join up :D

Anyway. My normal setup is an Epi LP Custom with Bareknuckle Mule pickups, into Korg Dt-10 tuner -> Keeley Rat ->Marshall Guvnor Plus -> Fender HRDx (set to volume 3-4 for some breakup, using hotplate). I normally use the Marshall pedal for my main rock rhythm sound, with the Rat for solos. However sometimes I feel that the Marshall sounds a bit fake and fizzy, even when the gain is around halfway. I dont use it onto a perfectly clean channel, so I'm not really saying "find me a pedal to turn my pristine fender into a marshall!" but I'd like to have an overdrive/gain boost to push my breaking up amp, with some of the classic british flavour. So far the Guvnor Plus comes closest to what I want, but like I said it has a slight "fakeness" and fizziness to its sound. I want something like the Guv Plus I reckon, but more realistic and amp like. Dont really want a TS style mid humpy thing (had a TS7 and hated it), but I dont want horrible scooped mids. Some examples of great tones I like are - angus/malcolm young on the songs "For those about to rock", "Highway to Hell", "Its a long way to the top" etc, Gov't Mule - pretty much any song by them, Thin Lizzy etc. Lets not forget Page's live tone either, especially on the "Song remains the same" DVD, bloody awesome tone!! Also I REALLY like his tone on the recorded version of Heartbreaker, perfect crunch, especially during and after the solo!

Sorry for the long post but you get the idea of what I'm after I hope! I was thinking about going for a Marshall Bluesbreaker II but the clips I've heard havent been very inspiring (only MF clips though..).. There was another pedal I heard but cant remember the name of it atall! I think the brand was something like Garage Studios? Ring a bell to anyone? Hermida Zen Drives sound pretty awesome aswell, anyone used one through a breaking up fender?

Cheers!

winny pooh · May 8th, 2006, 04:14 PM

Unfortunately just about all of the tones you mention were recorded with Plexi era marshalls cranked to high heaven, i was also looking for that sound until i got my 69' superlead, sorry but thats the only way. They had a very grainy dark punch to them, if you can stand the volume that is.

If i HAD to recommend a pedal i say try the Tonebone classic. The tubey warmth and EQ will get you closer than most, boost the mids on it and cut the treble.

BB · May 8th, 2006, 05:41 PM

I'm no Marshall expert but I do love dem dere tones they produce!

I have two older Marshall pedals that do the trick for me..

First up is the older, made in England black box Bluesbreaker pedal. Very low gain, but it does an admirable job of aping the tone of Clapton Bluesbreaker era tones. The second is in the same series, a black box Marshall Guvnor. This one takes over where the BB leaves off and the two compliment each other very well.

From what I understand ( I have not tried the newer, silver series BB and Guvnor ) the newer ones do not sound as good as the older, black box models.

For heavier Marshall tones, the Drivemaster and Shredmaster should do the trick. Although this series is long discontinued, they show up on ebay and various buy and sells quite frequently. Although the Drivemaster and Shredmaster have way more gain on tap than I'll ever use, I plan on picking them up when possilbe to complete the set.

For newer, readily avaliable pedals, the fore mentioned Tonebone may be the way to go. Also, the Carl Martin PlexiTone and/or Hot Drive & Boost should be a nice alternative.

Smokin' Joe Picante · May 8th, 2006, 05:47 PM

This pedal was subject to a LOT of hype when it came out. By the number I see trading used it obviously wasn't everyone's cup of tea. Personally, I think it's a fantastic pedal, very Marshall-esque and EXTREMELY touch and volume control sensitive. I've used mine with a blackface bassman and it sounds great!

Nothing is really gonna' be a "Plexi-in-a-box" in every way, there's just too many facets that make up the character of that sound. But... these pedals come pretty darn close for my buck. Very Marshall like in character, and very amp like in picking response IMO. Definitely worth a look!

I've heard some really great things about the newest (6 knob) version of the Menatone "King of the Britains", but I've never owned one.

ruger9 · May 8th, 2006, 05:57 PM

I'll throw another vote for the OCD. It was the best "Marshall in a Box" I have ever played. The modded version (which has more mids) would probably be even better. (I think they replace the volume pot, it gets rid of some of the ice-picky highs)

I've always wondered about Carl Martin's Plexitone.

t0m · May 8th, 2006, 08:02 PM

Yeah, I know I wont turn my amp into a JCM800 or whatever, as I allready stated.. Just want something with the marshall vibe, like the guvnor plus, but "better"

James W · May 8th, 2006, 08:08 PM

I've heard some people really like the Lovepedal CoT50 for a Marshall-like sound. I've no experience with the pedal and so I might be of absolutely no help whatsoever (which is usually the case).

agraebner · May 8th, 2006, 09:35 PM

give her a listen i think they have a clip on the ehx site love mine. Makes many different tones because it has a great eq built in

Scott S · May 8th, 2006, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by agraebner

give her a listen i think they have a clip on the ehx site love mine. Makes many different tones because it has a great eq built in

I've got one. I won't say they have a real "Marshally" tone, because let's face it -- you need overdriving power tubes and speakers for that. However, with the gain halfway up, the mids all the way up, and the treble all the way off, there are some good overdrive sounds in it.

Jean-Baptiste · May 9th, 2006, 03:33 AM

I'm surprised that no one's mentioned the MI Audio Crunch Box. This pedal's ideal for getting cranked plexi tones out of a clean Fender amp.

I use old black/brownface single channel non-master volume fenders and get pretty much all of my overdrive & distortion tones from pedals, so I can really say how the Crunch Box would react with the OD channel on your HRD. But with my Vibroverb and telecaster, I'm getting pure Eddie Van Halen tones from the Crunch Box.

It's one of those hand-made, true-bypass 'boutique' pedals, but a lot cheaper than most. I got mine direct from the manufacturer in Australia for $99.

t0m · May 9th, 2006, 05:39 AM

Well I never use the OD channel on my HRD now I have a hotplate, I find it better to crank up its volume so I get natural crunch, then boost that further with a pedal. The Keeley Rat actually sounds very nice, has that british kinda voicing. I saw that MI Audio Crunchbox a few weeks ago on their site, the clip sounds OK but its kinda muddy at places, but that could probably be EQ'ed out.. not sure how much it'd cost to get sent over here (UK) though.

ruger9 · May 9th, 2006, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t0m

Well I never use the OD channel on my HRD now I have a hotplate, I find it better to crank up its volume so I get natural crunch, then boost that further with a pedal.

This is exactly what I've been doing with my PV Classic 50. Tone Heaven. Nothing like a Marshall, tho...! More BadCat-ish.

t0m · May 9th, 2006, 08:39 AM

Haha I dont know what mines like.. definately not marshally, but its nice anyway, however I'd still rather have a good Marshall any day :P HRD's arent very reliable, mine was messing up at band practise last night, and the input jacks are very temperamental!

nsriley · May 9th, 2006, 09:34 AM

I'd say a ToneBone Hot British. It's more hot rodded marshall sounding, but does it very very well. The OCD is another nice one, or the MI Audio Crunch Box. The crunch box I think works best into a clean fender amp though. I listed mine on ebay because my amp is already more of a british flavor. So far the buyer is ending up as a non payer, I haven't heard a thing back yet.

-Peace
-Nate

t0m · May 9th, 2006, 12:01 PM

If he doesnt end up paying, and you fancy shipping a pedal to the UK, PM me :)

Smokin' Joe Picante · May 9th, 2006, 12:10 PM

The BJFE Dyna Red is another pedal that gets a fair bit of positive review as a "Marshall-in-a-box" style pedal. I don't have any personal exprience beyond hearing some sound clips, but a couple of really tone savvy people here own/rave about it, so I'd think it might be worth a listen.

Interestingly, talking about this very subject recently, a friend of mine really hears a lot of Marshall type character in the Boss OD-3. I do actually hear a bit of that character in it as well. And like an amp it's certainly a touch/volume sensitive pedal, but I don't neccesarily feel it's a "Marshall-in-a-box". It's worth a listen as well though...

t0m · May 9th, 2006, 03:32 PM

Yeah I was thinking about getting an OD-3 if I find one cheap on ebay, I've heard so much good about them. I'll have to find that Dyna Red pedal to look at

Grin'n'pick · May 9th, 2006, 06:34 PM

Another heads up for the Marshall Shredmaster. It is as close as I've come to a JCM800 in a box, and there is a lot of versatility with it, low gain to insane gain. It has a 'contour' control, like on a Marshall Valvestate, to get that scooped mids sound, I used it to tame any fizz. It also has treble and bass controls so there's a good deal of EQing you can do.

I have one but mainly play clean nowadays so don't really use it that much. I do keep it in case I need a Marshall sound again as it works very well for me. I used to use it with humbuckers and it was great with them, when I played more rocky stuff it was pretty much on all the time, I always got a sound I liked.

Only drawback is that the price has gone a bit silly because some band called Radiohead use them but being in the UK you shouldn't have a problem if you're looking for one. It is built like a tank too so they should be around in good condition.

jhc · May 10th, 2006, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James W

I've heard some people really like the Lovepedal CoT50 for a Marshall-like sound. I've no experience with the pedal and so I might be of absolutely no help whatsoever (which is usually the case).

I have this and can't recomment it highly enough. Works equally well driving an already cooking amp, or as a sole source of gain into a clean amp.

The Tonebone is supposed to be great too, but it's more of a JCM800 type pedal where the CoT50 is more of a Plexi.

Tim Bowen · May 10th, 2006, 01:29 AM

I have a BJFE Dyna Red; great ped. It (and many of the stomps mentioned here) can grok quite a bit of the Marshall vibe for single note lead work, but where they fall significantly short is in copping that sort of detailed complexity with chords. The original poster mentioned several examples of what I consider to be classic rock 'n roll crunch rhythms, and these higher gain stomps just don't get it, in my opinion; they sound splatty, flatulent - pick your ultra-scientific adjective of choice...

...for instance, the famous *AC/DC open chord G (with a 5th on the B string, not a 3rd) to D/F#* move - the higher gain peds won't get that sort of
"rich, crunchy jangle with hair" tone.

No pedal will, but you're certainly more apt to get it with lower gain pedals - if the amp truly is breaking up a bit, with a booster; and for a cleanish amp, with a harmonically rich overdrive (again, at low-medium gain) that has some high end clarity that merges well with the inherent EQ curve of the amp, and is not overly compressed.

Actually, the best "Marshall crunch" I've heard from a box is the low gain side of a Hughes & Kettner "Tube Factor". The higher (stacked) gain boost is a bit of a stinker all around, unfortunately.

jculler82 · May 10th, 2006, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nsriley

I'd say a ToneBone Hot British. It's more hot rodded marshall sounding, but does it very very well. The OCD is another nice one, or the MI Audio Crunch Box. The crunch box I think works best into a clean fender amp though. I listed mine on ebay because my amp is already more of a british flavor. So far the buyer is ending up as a non payer, I haven't heard a thing back yet.

-Peace
-Nate

agreed. it is a good pedal. also tonebone makes a new pedal now called a plexitube.
-jeramy

jgyn · June 3rd, 2006, 03:37 AM

I'm currently using a Barber Direct Drive SS for a dark, driven Marshall sound. And I like the Fulltone OCD also, which is brighter and brasher.

lchyi · June 3rd, 2006, 07:43 AM

BSIAB2, google that!

OaklandA · June 7th, 2006, 03:07 PM

I've been trying to find a "Marshall-in-a-box" for years. Have come close with a modded DS-1, but I recently got a new Plexi-Drive from Indyguitarist that gets closer than anything I've tried by a longshot.

I set the gain towards the lower side and it nails the AC/DC crunch to a tee.

t0m · June 7th, 2006, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OaklandA

I've been trying to find a "Marshall-in-a-box" for years. Have come close with a modded DS-1, but I recently got a new Plexi-Drive from Indyguitarist that gets closer than anything I've tried by a longshot.

I set the gain towards the lower side and it nails the AC/DC crunch to a tee.

I just went and checked out the clips on the Indyguitarist site, it does sound great actually.. Any ideas what the powdercoated one looks like, as I'm not shelling out that much for the diamond plate one!

jgyn · June 7th, 2006, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OaklandA

I've been trying to find a "Marshall-in-a-box" for years. Have come close with a modded DS-1, but I recently got a new Plexi-Drive from Indyguitarist that gets closer than anything I've tried by a longshot.

I set the gain towards the lower side and it nails the AC/DC crunch to a tee.

Just heard this. Sounds WONDERFUL. I like that he went for that JTM-45 sound.

May 8th, 2006, 07:03 AM	#1 (permalink)
t0m Tele-Meister Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK Posts: 123	Looking for a Marshall-style overdrive! Hi, this is my first post here, its a helpful forum so I thought I'd join up :D Anyway. My normal setup is an Epi LP Custom with Bareknuckle Mule pickups, into Korg Dt-10 tuner -> Keeley Rat ->Marshall Guvnor Plus -> Fender HRDx (set to volume 3-4 for some breakup, using hotplate). I normally use the Marshall pedal for my main rock rhythm sound, with the Rat for solos. However sometimes I feel that the Marshall sounds a bit fake and fizzy, even when the gain is around halfway. I dont use it onto a perfectly clean channel, so I'm not really saying "find me a pedal to turn my pristine fender into a marshall!" but I'd like to have an overdrive/gain boost to push my breaking up amp, with some of the classic british flavour. So far the Guvnor Plus comes closest to what I want, but like I said it has a slight "fakeness" and fizziness to its sound. I want something like the Guv Plus I reckon, but more realistic and amp like. Dont really want a TS style mid humpy thing (had a TS7 and hated it), but I dont want horrible scooped mids. Some examples of great tones I like are - angus/malcolm young on the songs "For those about to rock", "Highway to Hell", "Its a long way to the top" etc, Gov't Mule - pretty much any song by them, Thin Lizzy etc. Lets not forget Page's live tone either, especially on the "Song remains the same" DVD, bloody awesome tone!! Also I REALLY like his tone on the recorded version of Heartbreaker, perfect crunch, especially during and after the solo! Sorry for the long post but you get the idea of what I'm after I hope! I was thinking about going for a Marshall Bluesbreaker II but the clips I've heard havent been very inspiring (only MF clips though..).. There was another pedal I heard but cant remember the name of it atall! I think the brand was something like Garage Studios? Ring a bell to anyone? Hermida Zen Drives sound pretty awesome aswell, anyone used one through a breaking up fender? Cheers!

May 8th, 2006, 04:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
winny pooh Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: South London Posts: 1,612 7 Photos	Unfortunately just about all of the tones you mention were recorded with Plexi era marshalls cranked to high heaven, i was also looking for that sound until i got my 69' superlead, sorry but thats the only way. They had a very grainy dark punch to them, if you can stand the volume that is. If i HAD to recommend a pedal i say try the Tonebone classic. The tubey warmth and EQ will get you closer than most, boost the mids on it and cut the treble. __________________ my afro ambient side project: http://www.myspace.com/theswyambusessions

May 8th, 2006, 05:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
Smokin' Joe Picante Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 499	Fulltone OCD... This pedal was subject to a LOT of hype when it came out. By the number I see trading used it obviously wasn't everyone's cup of tea. Personally, I think it's a fantastic pedal, very Marshall-esque and EXTREMELY touch and volume control sensitive. I've used mine with a blackface bassman and it sounds great! Nothing is really gonna' be a "Plexi-in-a-box" in every way, there's just too many facets that make up the character of that sound. But... these pedals come pretty darn close for my buck. Very Marshall like in character, and very amp like in picking response IMO. Definitely worth a look! I've heard some really great things about the newest (6 knob) version of the Menatone "King of the Britains", but I've never owned one. __________________ http://www.joecurtisband.com/ Overheard at a gig... "The guitar could be louder... I have no idea how, but I'm sure it can be done..." ;)

May 8th, 2006, 05:57 PM	#5 (permalink)
ruger9 Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hackettstown, NJ Posts: 1,644	I'll throw another vote for the OCD. It was the best "Marshall in a Box" I have ever played. The modded version (which has more mids) would probably be even better. (I think they replace the volume pot, it gets rid of some of the ice-picky highs) I've always wondered about Carl Martin's Plexitone. __________________ "I've got callouses, from all those nights, spent playin' a Telecaster, 'till my fingers bled Bud Light" - Travis Tritt

May 8th, 2006, 08:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
James W Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 183	I've heard some people really like the Lovepedal CoT50 for a Marshall-like sound. I've no experience with the pedal and so I might be of absolutely no help whatsoever (which is usually the case). __________________ Doing just fine, hour to hour, note to note.

May 8th, 2006, 05:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
BB Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2003 Location: Pacific NW Age: 53 Posts: 3,141	I'm no Marshall expert but I do love dem dere tones they produce! I have two older Marshall pedals that do the trick for me.. First up is the older, made in England black box Bluesbreaker pedal. Very low gain, but it does an admirable job of aping the tone of Clapton Bluesbreaker era tones. The second is in the same series, a black box Marshall Guvnor. This one takes over where the BB leaves off and the two compliment each other very well. From what I understand ( I have not tried the newer, silver series BB and Guvnor ) the newer ones do not sound as good as the older, black box models. For heavier Marshall tones, the Drivemaster and Shredmaster should do the trick. Although this series is long discontinued, they show up on ebay and various buy and sells quite frequently. Although the Drivemaster and Shredmaster have way more gain on tap than I'll ever use, I plan on picking them up when possilbe to complete the set. For newer, readily avaliable pedals, the fore mentioned Tonebone may be the way to go. Also, the Carl Martin PlexiTone and/or Hot Drive & Boost should be a nice alternative.

May 8th, 2006, 08:02 PM	#6 (permalink)
t0m Tele-Meister Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK Posts: 123	Yeah, I know I wont turn my amp into a JCM800 or whatever, as I allready stated.. Just want something with the marshall vibe, like the guvnor plus, but "better"

May 8th, 2006, 09:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
agraebner TDPRI Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 57	elecrto harmonix English muffin give her a listen i think they have a clip on the ehx site love mine. Makes many different tones because it has a great eq built in

May 9th, 2006, 03:33 AM	#10 (permalink)
Jean-Baptiste Tele-Holic Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 633	I'm surprised that no one's mentioned the MI Audio Crunch Box. This pedal's ideal for getting cranked plexi tones out of a clean Fender amp. I use old black/brownface single channel non-master volume fenders and get pretty much all of my overdrive & distortion tones from pedals, so I can really say how the Crunch Box would react with the OD channel on your HRD. But with my Vibroverb and telecaster, I'm getting pure Eddie Van Halen tones from the Crunch Box. It's one of those hand-made, true-bypass 'boutique' pedals, but a lot cheaper than most. I got mine direct from the manufacturer in Australia for $99.

May 9th, 2006, 05:39 AM	#11 (permalink)
t0m Tele-Meister Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK Posts: 123	Well I never use the OD channel on my HRD now I have a hotplate, I find it better to crank up its volume so I get natural crunch, then boost that further with a pedal. The Keeley Rat actually sounds very nice, has that british kinda voicing. I saw that MI Audio Crunchbox a few weeks ago on their site, the clip sounds OK but its kinda muddy at places, but that could probably be EQ'ed out.. not sure how much it'd cost to get sent over here (UK) though.

May 9th, 2006, 08:39 AM	#13 (permalink)
t0m Tele-Meister Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK Posts: 123	Haha I dont know what mines like.. definately not marshally, but its nice anyway, however I'd still rather have a good Marshall any day :P HRD's arent very reliable, mine was messing up at band practise last night, and the input jacks are very temperamental!

May 9th, 2006, 09:34 AM	#14 (permalink)
nsriley TDPRI Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Utica, NY Posts: 85	I'd say a ToneBone Hot British. It's more hot rodded marshall sounding, but does it very very well. The OCD is another nice one, or the MI Audio Crunch Box. The crunch box I think works best into a clean fender amp though. I listed mine on ebay because my amp is already more of a british flavor. So far the buyer is ending up as a non payer, I haven't heard a thing back yet. -Peace -Nate __________________ -Peace -Nate

May 9th, 2006, 12:01 PM	#15 (permalink)
t0m Tele-Meister Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK Posts: 123	If he doesnt end up paying, and you fancy shipping a pedal to the UK, PM me :)

May 9th, 2006, 12:10 PM	#16 (permalink)
Smokin' Joe Picante Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 499	How about the Dyna Red? The BJFE Dyna Red is another pedal that gets a fair bit of positive review as a "Marshall-in-a-box" style pedal. I don't have any personal exprience beyond hearing some sound clips, but a couple of really tone savvy people here own/rave about it, so I'd think it might be worth a listen. Interestingly, talking about this very subject recently, a friend of mine really hears a lot of Marshall type character in the Boss OD-3. I do actually hear a bit of that character in it as well. And like an amp it's certainly a touch/volume sensitive pedal, but I don't neccesarily feel it's a "Marshall-in-a-box". It's worth a listen as well though... __________________ http://www.joecurtisband.com/ Overheard at a gig... "The guitar could be louder... I have no idea how, but I'm sure it can be done..." ;)

May 9th, 2006, 03:32 PM	#17 (permalink)
t0m Tele-Meister Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK Posts: 123	Yeah I was thinking about getting an OD-3 if I find one cheap on ebay, I've heard so much good about them. I'll have to find that Dyna Red pedal to look at

May 9th, 2006, 06:34 PM	#18 (permalink)
Grin'n'pick Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sarf Eas' Laandon Posts: 1,949 38 Photos	Another heads up for the Marshall Shredmaster. It is as close as I've come to a JCM800 in a box, and there is a lot of versatility with it, low gain to insane gain. It has a 'contour' control, like on a Marshall Valvestate, to get that scooped mids sound, I used it to tame any fizz. It also has treble and bass controls so there's a good deal of EQing you can do. I have one but mainly play clean nowadays so don't really use it that much. I do keep it in case I need a Marshall sound again as it works very well for me. I used to use it with humbuckers and it was great with them, when I played more rocky stuff it was pretty much on all the time, I always got a sound I liked. Only drawback is that the price has gone a bit silly because some band called Radiohead use them but being in the UK you shouldn't have a problem if you're looking for one. It is built like a tank too so they should be around in good condition.

May 10th, 2006, 01:29 AM	#20 (permalink)
Tim Bowen Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Age: 48 Posts: 3,300	I have a BJFE Dyna Red; great ped. It (and many of the stomps mentioned here) can grok quite a bit of the Marshall vibe for single note lead work, but where they fall significantly short is in copping that sort of detailed complexity with chords. The original poster mentioned several examples of what I consider to be classic rock 'n roll crunch rhythms, and these higher gain stomps just don't get it, in my opinion; they sound splatty, flatulent - pick your ultra-scientific adjective of choice... ...for instance, the famous AC/DC open chord G (with a 5th on the B string, not a 3rd) to D/F# move - the higher gain peds won't get that sort of "rich, crunchy jangle with hair" tone. No pedal will, but you're certainly more apt to get it with lower gain pedals - if the amp truly is breaking up a bit, with a booster; and for a cleanish amp, with a harmonically rich overdrive (again, at low-medium gain) that has some high end clarity that merges well with the inherent EQ curve of the amp, and is not overly compressed. Actually, the best "Marshall crunch" I've heard from a box is the low gain side of a Hughes & Kettner "Tube Factor". The higher (stacked) gain boost is a bit of a stinker all around, unfortunately. __________________ "Everyone is different in how they learn, but for me, it's turning the pegs and just playing." - BB

June 3rd, 2006, 03:37 AM	#22 (permalink)
jgyn NEW MEMBER! Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 8	I'm currently using a Barber Direct Drive SS for a dark, driven Marshall sound. And I like the Fulltone OCD also, which is brighter and brasher.

June 3rd, 2006, 07:43 AM	#23 (permalink)
lchyi Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 144 3 Photos	BSIAB2, google that!

June 7th, 2006, 03:07 PM	#24 (permalink)
OaklandA Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,611 28 Photos	I've been trying to find a "Marshall-in-a-box" for years. Have come close with a modded DS-1, but I recently got a new Plexi-Drive from Indyguitarist that gets closer than anything I've tried by a longshot. I set the gain towards the lower side and it nails the AC/DC crunch to a tee. __________________ ________________________ _________________ ___________ That's what she said.