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Old November 30th, 2005, 08:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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new 2 pedals

What's better the pedal boards like the me 50 or individual pedals? What effects goes good with teles? I have several amps that i just plug stright into. Not sure where to start. Any suggestions?

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Old November 30th, 2005, 10:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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There's no gig I couldn't play with a wah, tubescreamer, boost and delay on my board.

That said, I also have a phaser, volume pedal and a heavier distortion pedal on my board.

Individual effects let you tailor your setup more to your own personal tastes than a multieffects unit. The trend these days is to model stompboxes anyway. Why not have the real thing vs. a less than perfect digital copy.
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Old November 30th, 2005, 11:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
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tick for tack. Some will say multi's, some will say singles are the only way.

I am in the school that says you should have a pedal for each effect you want.

Do what YOU want, that's what I did, and it's worked for me so far.
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Old December 1st, 2005, 05:02 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Another pedal pusher here...

Great advice! Only you can determine which format sounds best to you.

I'm an individual pedal guy. There are three main advantages to my mind with this type of scenario over a multi-effect unit.
1.One, you can swap out or change any pedal in a heartbeat if your tastes change, or if it goes faulty. You don't lose your compressor/flanger/chorus/overdrive/eq/everything because an overdrive patch starts going buggy, and then the whole multi-effect has to go to the shop.
2.Two, you can adjust sounds extremely quickly. No menu's to scroll through or programming to be done, just turn knobs until it sounds good.
3. There are just so many great sounding pedals being made these days. You can mix and match, experiment to find what you need easily (and aside from the most "boutique" items) without spending a ton of dough. A lot of guys I know with multi-effect units say things like "I love the delay sounds in this thing but I wish it had better chorus..." and wind up augmenting the multi-effect with pedals anyway to get sounds they can't get out of that particular unit. I know i went down that road a long time ago! No fun!

It's really about trying out as much gear as posiible to find what suits you. I have a couple friends with POD's that just love them, and they find them to be quite reliable. It's not my cup of tea, but they certainly don't sound bad if you know what you're doing as far as programming them. You may find a multi-effect unit that "does everything" for you and that won't be an issue, but it's something to think about. Good luck!
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Old December 1st, 2005, 11:01 AM   #5 (permalink)
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and advocate for individual pedals. For the same reasons listed above. I am admittedly not a fan of modeling units...

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Old December 1st, 2005, 01:48 PM   #6 (permalink)
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My limited experience

with modelling pedals is that they are noisy. You don't notice it at first...but it doesn't take long.

Secondly, I found it difficult to remember all the settings. I don't need to remember 40 programs, I need to remember the next lick. Informaton overload IMO. You are probably thinking is it really information overload? Yes because for each program, the knobs react differently. If you shift a program, you might have to turn the knob. You may not remember what the knob does, for that program. So 40 programs, 3 knobs, is 120 things I have to remember. I can't remember 120 licks, how am I going to remember 120 programs, and 120 licks. Information overload.

If I need a pedal for just one type of sound for one song...like a phaser...I would just get a Dano unit. Pull it from the chain when I am not going to use it for a while.

But that is just me.
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Old December 1st, 2005, 02:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
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hi,
about ten years ago, when i was doing that cover rock thing ( tending towards heavier stuff..) i used an 19" multieffect device ( intellifex from rocktron ) along with a midiprogrammable ada mp1 tube preamp and a big 2x50 watt all tube poweramp and it was good and i had the punch.
and it was cool to just step on the midi-control board and have a programmed variety of 30-40 different sounds.

than i started with country music, chicken picking and clean stuff and i sold most of my equipement.
the main reason was, that i noticed, that going through a digital effect ( i just can talk about 19" multieffects ), you loose the dynamics and attack you have, when you go straight into an amp or work with analog steppers , especially with true bypass switches.

plus i found, that i could play perfectly along with only 4 pedals and i decided to buy really good ones.
so now iīm playing
keeley compressor
voodoolab sparkledrive as a boost
zendrive for overdrive
ibanez ad9 for slapback delay
all that goes into an ernie ball volume pedal and into a dr. z combo.
and i feel completely satisfied with the possibilities
of that rig.
i admit i was thinking about a chorus or a reverb, but being honest to myself, i really donīt need it.

so the essential of all this is according my opinion, that it really depends on what you want to play.
ask yourself, what do i really need or want as an effect and than give it both a try.
hope these thought smay help a bit

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Old December 1st, 2005, 02:59 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I use both digital multi-effects units and analog pedals.

For some stuff, the digital works better, and for others the analog works better. Then there are times where just the guitar and amp provide the best sound.

I am a strong advocate of hybrid setups. Exploring both worlds will give you many variations to choose from.

My personal favorite digital is the Roland GP-16 and soon (hopefully) to be the Roland VG-88.

Roland's COSM (Composite Object Sound Modeling) is still the leading technology in sound processing for instruments. I have had a GP-8 and a GP-16. Had i not had other things (like rent) to pay for, I would still have them today.

Also, I have Roland Cube30 and Cube Bass30 amplifiers with COSM. They are very versatile for recording.

I have also had the Boss ME-30 (which I gave to a friend). Getting rid of the noise was not too hard, and programming the unit for different sounds was a breeze.

On the analog side, I am into building my own units now. Not that there aren't any good ones out there, but I just have tinker. ;)
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Old December 1st, 2005, 03:18 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Both...depends on place and time

I have a stage/jam rig and a practice rig.

For the stage rig I use only an echo pedal and a tuner. I let amp, guitars and fingers do the rest of the work.

For my practice rig I use a Digitech RP 200 into my little solid-state Bronco. I use it mostly to emulate blackface and tweed amp sounds and to experiement with different effects, mostly reverb and echo. The Digitech generally makes practice more pleasant by providing ready and easy access to a wide pallette of sounds. If I'm doing some jazz chord study, I have a setting. Scales, I have a setting. Country, I have a setting.

I wouldn't gig with a multi because you have very little ready control over the individual effects.
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