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Old February 5th, 2013, 09:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Buffered pedals on my board

This is my board:

Dunlop crybaby original
Visual sounds Jekyll and Hyde
Danelectro fab chorus
Danelectro tuna melt tremolo
Boss dd-20

Which if any of my pedals are true bypass or buffered??
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Old February 5th, 2013, 10:26 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The fastest way to figure out if a pedal is true bypass is to switch it off (bypass it) and unplug it's power supply. If it still passes your guitar signal through it, then it is true bypass.

Now you can always know for sure if a pedal is true bypass!
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Old February 5th, 2013, 10:28 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I think everything on your board is buffered except for the Wah. That said, the wah has a terrible buffer and you may want to run a buffer in front of it so that it doesn't clamp your signal down in bypass.
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Old February 15th, 2013, 02:21 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I think everything on your board is buffered except for the Wah. That said, the wah has a terrible buffer and you may want to run a buffer in front of it so that it doesn't clamp your signal down in bypass.
What do you mean by running a buffer in front of it?
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Old February 15th, 2013, 03:15 PM   #5 (permalink)
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If you put a buffered pedal (like a Boss Tuner) in front of the wah, it will solve the problem of the wah clamping down on the signal.
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Old February 15th, 2013, 04:08 PM   #6 (permalink)
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The fastest way to figure out if a pedal is true bypass is to switch it off (bypass it) and unplug it's power supply. If it still passes your guitar signal through it, then it is true bypass.

Now you can always know for sure if a pedal is true bypass!
This is not true. There are other bypass schemes that will still pass the signal through an unpowered signal which are still not "real" true bypass.

Also, to refer back to the OP's question, just because a pedal is not true bypass, doesn't mean it's buffered, either.
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This is not true. There are other bypass schemes that will still pass the signal through an unpowered signal which are still not "real" true bypass.

Also, to refer back to the OP's question, just because a pedal is not true bypass, doesn't mean it's buffered, either.
Millennium bypass? I would regard that as a true bypass scheme. What else is there?
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Old February 15th, 2013, 04:27 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I don't recall if there were other versions besides Millennium bypass that acted this way. I read a good article about it a year or two ago that did a good job of describing and contrasting the various bypass schemes.

As far as this article was concerned, they did not consider Millennium to be "real" true bypass, although I know that some people prefer it.
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I think everything on your board is buffered except for the Wah. That said, the wah has a terrible buffer and you may want to run a buffer in front of it so that it doesn't clamp your signal down in bypass.
The only one that might be true bypass is the Jekyll and Hyde, and I'm pretty sure its not. All the others are definite buffers.
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I think the J&H is buffered... in fact VS is known for their pretty solid buffer and you can buy it as a standalone now.
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Old February 15th, 2013, 07:30 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I don't recall if there were other versions besides Millennium bypass that acted this way. I read a good article about it a year or two ago that did a good job of describing and contrasting the various bypass schemes.

As far as this article was concerned, they did not consider Millennium to be "real" true bypass, although I know that some people prefer it.
Yeah, the old MXR pedals [70's] pass the signal when 'off' with no battery connected, but they certainly arent true bypass.
But its really not all that important, nobody can tell your buffered from your true bypass pedals or that your high end is slightly attenuated at a gig.
My guitar has EMG's so tone sucking,impedance,true bypass v buffered etc is a non issue...but thats not why I use em.They sound great too me.
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I think the J&H is buffered... in fact VS is known for their pretty solid buffer and you can buy it as a standalone now.
I often add a Visual Sound pedal in my chain even if I'm not going to use it. It often makes a notable improvement in the bypassed sound especially if I have a bunch of true bypass pedals hooked up.
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Old February 15th, 2013, 09:41 PM   #14 (permalink)
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VS and the Boss are the only buffered pedals on the OP's board.
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Don't know what that wah is, but the rest are buffered.
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VS and the Boss are the only buffered pedals on the OP's board.
The Dano's are TB?
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The Dano's are TB?
Having examined them from the inside, they appear to be.
I may have not looked carefully enough. 11Gauge would be
able to confirm or deny this.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 10:19 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I'm pretty sure the yellow Dano isn't. Don't know about the FAB series, but the old "food" series wasn't, as far as I know.
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Tuna melt and DD20 definitely buffered.
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