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Old March 13th, 2012, 11:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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boost pedal=more volume?

So does a boost pedal make more volume come out of your amp than normal?
With the pedal more volume than without??
Hmmm???

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Old March 13th, 2012, 12:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Mine does. I use a compressor at the end of my chain
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Old March 13th, 2012, 12:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Mine does.
what do you use?
And you use your compression as a boost? Or was that ontop of your boost?
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Old March 13th, 2012, 12:41 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The pedal boosts(amplifies) the signal being sent to the amp. The more signal hitting the amp, the more volume comes out. The extra signal also can push the tubes into overdrive.
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Old March 13th, 2012, 01:21 PM   #5 (permalink)
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So does a boost pedal make more volume come out of your amp than normal?
With the pedal more volume than without??
Hmmm???
If it's the last item in the chain (or at least after any overdrive/distortions) then yes, it will be louder - just like introducing a louder guitar would.

If it is before any overdrive or distortion it may add gain, but the volume ceiling of the pedal after will determine how much louder it will sound.

Whatever is last in the chain has the "final word" as it were...
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I recently purchased a Boosta Grande pedal; a clean boost. It's very cool. It retains the amp's signal very well; keeps all the dynamics of the amp in tact and just adds volume until you turn up the knob some, then it overdrives the amp beautifully.
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Old March 13th, 2012, 01:35 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Put it through your effects loop. It will boost volume..
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Old March 13th, 2012, 02:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
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just adds volume until you turn up the knob some, then it overdrives the amp beautifully.
How far can you turn it/how much volume can you get before it turns into overdrive?
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Old March 13th, 2012, 03:07 PM   #9 (permalink)
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How far can you turn it/how much volume can you get before it turns into overdrive?
Completely depends on the amp - smaller tube amps with lower wattages tend to break up sooner than larger, higher wattage amps.
Most solid state amps will NEVER break up - at least, not in a good way...
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Old March 13th, 2012, 03:09 PM   #10 (permalink)
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How far can you turn it/how much volume can you get before it turns into overdrive?
It really depends on how you set your amp as well as its size. If you set it clean then it'll take more pedal knob turning. If you set your amp dirty then kick in the boost pedal you won't have to turn it as much. The pedal adds a substantial amount of volume though.
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Old March 13th, 2012, 04:59 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Okay so what's considered a small or large amp?
Is a 40 watt tube large?
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Okay so what's considered a small or large amp?
Is a 40 watt tube large?
It's all relative I suppose. 40 watts should be enough for a good number of players. I have a Vox AC15 (15 watts) and it has plenty of volume for me.

I recommend going to a store and checking some out for yourself so you can judge how much power you need and what sounds good to you. I love my amp but you may not like it.
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Old March 13th, 2012, 07:07 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Completely depends on the amp - smaller tube amps with lower wattages tend to break up sooner than larger, higher wattage amps.
Most solid state amps will NEVER break up - at least, not in a good way...
I was just about to mention that. A pedal set too loud into a SS amp and you get fizz, not overdrive.
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It's all about the amp's headroom. If you take a boost pedal, put it at the end of your pedals, and hit the front end of the amp with a boosted signal, different amps will react differently.

For example, when I owned an AC15, my boost pedal pushed the amp into a natural overdrive, along with increasing the volume a bit. Now that I have an AC30, it's mostly just a volume increase. Certainly a little volume but not as much as before.

It also depends on where the boost is in your chain. If you run your boost in front of your distortion pedals, it will just hit those harder but your overall volume will determined by the pedal you're running into. Basically, I look at it as this: If you want a gain boost, boost goes before any drive pedals. For a volume increase, it should be last in line.

Hope this helps!
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So does a boost pedal make more volume come out of your amp than normal?
With the pedal more volume than without??
Hmmm???
It depends;
If your trying to get your amp turned up to max to get louder, then no, it probably won't work. Chances are you'll just get more compression and distortion. With a tube amp, boosters are useful for finding a sweet spot at different volumes, and getting different kinds of overdrive. For example, a turned up booster will get you more pre-amp gain.
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I use both clean boosts and compressors, and yes it does increase the volume.
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Old March 13th, 2012, 08:19 PM   #17 (permalink)
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It depends;
If your trying to get your amp turned up to max to get louder, then no, it probably won't work. Chances are you'll just get more compression and distortion. With a tube amp, boosters are useful for finding a sweet spot at different volumes, and getting different kinds of overdrive. For example, a turned up booster will get you more pre-amp gain.
After 24 years of playing, I'm just now figuring this out. If you amp is dimed, and I mean all knobs on 10, boosts don't really "add" volume. Just thicken the probably already thick natural tube overdrive. But most "old school" non master volume, no gain control tube amps CAN be played at max decibel level without the volume knob being at 10. Thats where a pedal is useful, loud clean + pedal crunch/OD. Personally, I'm trying to plug straight in anymore.

I guess I've never really used a dimed amp as my main tone, because I'd have figured that out years ago. And I've never had an amp thay had the "right" amount of overdrive. It was either not quite enough(BF Tremolux) or way too much(a lot of amps I've owned actually). Having an amp now that does is cool. Clean to crunch lies between 6 and 10 on my guitar's volume knob. But there's the fine line between totally clean and kinda clean.
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After 24 years of playing, I'm just now figuring this out. If you amp is dimed, and I mean all knobs on 10, boosts don't really "add" volume. Just thicken the probably already thick natural tube overdrive.
Exactly what I was going to say! If the amp is already maxed, there's no more volume to be had.
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Old March 13th, 2012, 09:19 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Now what's a dimed amp?
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Dimed means turned all the way up, as in up to "10" or "dimed."
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