Somebody explain Klon to me.

[chippertheripper]

Hotrodkid, the differences from that clip are certainly there, I won't argue that, but the % difference between the 2 pedals, sonically, is about the percentage of cost difference that the bad monkey is. Ie: they sound about 1% different, and the bm costs about 1% of the klon.

Obviously it isn't the pedal for me. I can see that there's a place for it in the market...I mean, somebody has to make the most expensive pedal, right?

[bigp7099]

FWIW here' a video (one of many) comparing a real klon and a klone



i'm building a madbean sunking right now, doing it mostly for the challenge as much as to get the tone, and actually i'd be really happy if it can make everything sound like ac/dc, as well as other stuff

here's a video of a guy testing different diodes in a klone as well

[blowtorch]

"and actually i'd be really happy if it can make everything sound like ac/dc"

Me too!

[TheRumRunner]

Recently I went and saw this ole guy play.



He did pretty good

I snapped a pic of his board.




He seemed to use that Klon pretty good.

DW

[Teleglide]

Warren Haynes likes his Klon too.

[hotrodkid]

Originally Posted by chippertheripper

Hotrodkid, the differences from that clip are certainly there, I won't argue that, but the % difference between the 2 pedals, sonically, is about the percentage of cost difference that the bad monkey is. Ie: they sound about 1% different, and the bm costs about 1% of the klon.

Obviously it isn't the pedal for me. I can see that there's a place for it in the market...I mean, somebody has to make the most expensive pedal, right?

Actually dude I regreted that post after I sent it. That's why I really dislike this argument. It was better when I did not own the clone and before I played an original. All of this was meaningless to me back then.

I think the Klon Centuar by itself is not as intriguing as the debates it sparks.

[chippertheripper]

You certainly have that right hrk.

[11 Gauge]

Originally Posted by hotrodkid

I think the Klon Centaur by itself is not as intriguing as the debates it sparks.

Now THAT right there is worth quoting, and remembering!

[11 Gauge]

Originally Posted by Teleglide

Warren Haynes likes his Klon too.

I read about Warren's use of pedals, and I have to say that with him it is a bit atypical.

I say that because with the Allman Bros, he uses no pedals at all. And he started using them with Gov't Mule more out of necessity, to "fill out the sound with a live show of a band with only one guitarist," or something to that effect.

The truth be told, I have yet to hear of a single famous guitarist who was so hooked on the thing that he (or she) would demand to be buried with it.

I see that picture of JB above, and it's a similar thing. I remember a picture of his "pedalboard" a few years back, and it was a Boss flanger. And I recall a recent interview with him (this last spring or so), and he said that really all he needs any longer are a bunch of tweed champs. The Marshalls and such just allow for some more flexibility in some venues, but JB could really make any gear work. Not to say that the KC doesn't make him sound better...

[stevics]

Sorry if this has already been said in this thread.

I have no doubt whatsoever that the Klon is a great pedal.

If you have one then you seem to have an inflation proof investment.

On ebay you can literally see the price go up month by month.

Horsey types are now about £1000 UK

[hotrodkid]

Well. after this great debate I played my JHS Klone for several hours. I ran it as a boost (which I have not used it for in a while) a heavy OD (which I never do) and low gain (as I usually do)

The verdict is: It ain't going anywhere. I don't care if someday the Horsie Klon's are selling for $10,000 and my JHS Klone Clown is only worth $10. I'll love it even more. It's a good quality (boutique)/very different sounding pedal that cost me what a lot of other boutique pedals are selling for. Plus, it's half the size of an original, which means I can fit more toys on my board.

Btw, I saw a JHS Klone on ebay a few days ago for $225 and it did not sell. So it appears that the whole Klon thing is just about the money which is a shame because it really is a "good" solid pedal.

Anyways, I highly recommend the JHS. While it might not make all your little Klon dreams come true, I guarantee you will not say it sounds terrible. And it will grow on you over time too.

[chippertheripper]

225 for any boutique pedal isn't really unreasonable. 1000-1500, or even up to 2000 or whatever the exchange on 1kgbp is, is unreasonable. Especially when you can duplicate the sound so closely.
Use that thing more, hrk.

[smoss469]

Originally Posted by 11 Gauge

I see that picture of JB above, and it's a similar thing. I remember a picture of his "pedalboard" a few years back, and it was a Boss flanger.

They had that setup in either Guitar Player or Guitar World a few years ago. I still have it somewhere.

[sbpark]

i thought the secret to the Klon was that it contained clippings of chuck norris' beard...

[hotrodkid]

Originally Posted by chippertheripper

225 for any boutique pedal isn't really unreasonable.

It was used but like new condition w/the box. BIN $225. Said he needed Christmas cash.

I paid about $300 for mine. His had a very cool silver sparkle finish that I like better than mine which is a sparkle light blue.

Anyways, I was surprised it didn't sell. Maybe he will relist it on an auction format. It appears ebay guys don't like BIN listings in this economy.

[LakePlacidBlue]

Originally Posted by hotrodkid

I paid about $300 for mine. His had a very cool silver sparkle finish that I like better than mine which is a sparkle light blue.

I paid a little bit over 300 for my brand new Klon in very late 2009. I'd hate to buy a clone that costs almost as much.

[11 Gauge]

Originally Posted by bigp7099

here's a video of a guy testing different diodes in a klone as well

And you can't tell much of a difference, can you? I can't, at least not by such a random test, with the knobs set all over the place...

...But that in itself reveals that you can "compensate for any diode differences" by adjusting the knobs.

Some would argue that YouTube won't reveal any differences, and I agree 100%. But playing on stage will do very much the same thing, maybe even moreso. So unless you want to relegate the pedal to solo playing in a super quiet environment, it's a moot point, IMO.

By extension of that, there's really no need to go hunting for crazy unobtanium diodes. I think the Schottky BAT's sound as good as any of the others, and they aren't even germanium!

[hotrodkid]

Originally Posted by LakePlacidBlue

I paid a little bit over 300 for my brand new Klon in very late 2009. I'd hate to buy a clone that costs almost as much.

You're lucky. You don't have to. You have the real one. And it's just amazing how much you're pedal is worth today (4X+)

For me I didn't become interested until the prices started to already climb (600+ - 800) so I took a shot and was promised a 1:1 clone for $300. Maybe I should of dished out 3-4 hundred more fro the real deal but 250-300 for any pedal is kind of my threshold. Even though I like some of the Love Pedal and Mad Professsor HW stuff it was always out of my range.

I like the JHS Klone for it's sound. It does not have the whole "Klon vibe". But in a blind test, 9 out of 10 Dentist preferred it.

[Tidepoolbay]

I have a silver Klon that I bought before the prices went out. I do not use it as much now as I use to. I am glad I have it but, to many points made here, there are other pedals out there that will do the job.

[artdecade]

$600-800? Spending that kinda money for a pedal is insane. You could probably Redd Volkaert over for a few private lessons for that kinda dough. Ha.