NPD!!! (x3)

[JoshuaCLS]

Originally Posted by smoss469

I noticed you're missing basically all modulation/non delay effects:

Chorus
Flanger
Phaser
Tremolo

That's probably because i'm not a huge fan of them. The only thing I see really using would be trem, and if it was a tap trem.

[smoss469]

Originally Posted by JoshuaCLS

That's probably because i'm not a huge fan of them. The only thing I see really using would be trem, and if it was a tap trem.

There's also:

Wah
Auto-Wah/Envelope Filter
Octave
Fuzz

I'm not a HUGE Mod user, but I have a Script Phase 90 on 1 board and on the other a Boss CE-5 and a Dano CC Trem. I've also got a few others that I rotate in and out as my tastes change.

[JoshuaCLS]

Originally Posted by smoss469

There's also:

Wah
Auto-Wah/Envelope Filter
Octave
Fuzz

I'm not a HUGE Mod user, but I have a Script Phase 90 on 1 board and on the other a Boss CE-5 and a Dano CC Trem. I've also got a few others that I rotate in and out as my tastes change.

I'd love some sort of POG... but those are so dang expensive! haha.
And, I should probably pick up a fuzz, though I can't forsee me using it too much....

[Liamf]

Get an empress trem or the cusack tapawhirl

[mitch_m]

Originally Posted by JoshuaCLS

I use it as an always on pedal. I just use it with both knobs at noon to correct the phase issues between high and low end so it all comes out sounding full and in your face. It's like taking a blanket off my amp. It can sound like it's adding sparkle, but it's really just correcting something that's already there you're just not hearing because phase cancelation.

It goes last in the chain, because it's correcting the signal for phase problems and shouldn't have anything else between it and the amp. =]

It's kind of like a magic mojo pedal.

Sorry, what do you mean by 'phase cancellation'. Phase issues don't come into play untill air has been moved. Air doesn't move until your speaker. Pedals can't fix phase issues. A sonic maximizer takes your signal, processes incoming frequencies, and boost other frequencies that are similar to those coming in. Also as is the case with your pedal-sized maximizer, there are bass and treble boosters in it. No doubt your rig sounds full and clear by itself.

I like using maximizers when I am working on overall mixes in my DAW. But how do you think your guitar sits in the mix of the bands you play in live? How does the maximizer help when you are using a bass and treble booster for an instrument that sits in the mids?
I guess if the pots are set to noon it will neutralize the loss if mids.

I've heard that a lot of players say that maximizers make their guitars sound full by themselves, but once they play out with their band, their guitar gets lost in the mix because they can't cut through.

[smoss469]

Someone always has to bag on the Sonic Stomp.

[JoshuaCLS]

Originally Posted by mitch_m

Sorry, what do you mean by 'phase cancellation'. Phase issues don't come into play untill air has been moved. Air doesn't move until your speaker. Pedals can't fix phase issues. A sonic maximizer takes your signal, processes incoming frequencies, and boost other frequencies that are similar to those coming in. Also as is the case with your pedal-sized maximizer, there are bass and treble boosters in it. No doubt your rig sounds full and clear by itself.

I like using maximizers when I am working on overall mixes in my DAW. But how do you think your guitar sits in the mix of the bands you play in live? How does the maximizer help when you are using a bass and treble booster for an instrument that sits in the mids?
I guess if the pots are set to noon it will neutralize the loss if mids.

I've heard that a lot of players say that maximizers make their guitars sound full by themselves, but once they play out with their band, their guitar gets lost in the mix because they can't cut through.

I'm not 100% sure that I follow you correctly. Are you saying that you don't believe that the BBE technology is doing what it claims to do, or are you saying you don't understand how the technology works? Because I can assure you it's not just boosting my low and high ends, it cleans it up, and makes it less muddy. Pretty sure boosting would just make it sound more muddy.

If you're not sure on how it works, it basically takes the signal and prepares it for phase cancelation. Delaying the high end a little while, so it lines up with the lower frequencies when they come out of the amp. Higher end moves faster than the lower stuff.

As far as playing with a band and loss of mids, I experience NONE of these problems, so I am not really sure what you're talking about. I always get compliments on my tone from other people at church, they're always really impressed with how my guitar sounds by itself and in the house.

I am a huge tone snob. I can promise you that I wouldn't do anything that hurt my tone.

[mitch_m]

I was just wondering what you meant by phase cancellation. It defies the current laws of physics for certain frequencies to travel faster than others. So I'm not sure that a pedal would be needed to fix this nonexistent problem. And phase cancellation doesn't happen until after the amp. So what does it really do?

And my second question was basically asking if you noticed any loss of mids when you set the pots straight up.

cheers

[telerocker1988]

HNPD!

[JoshuaCLS]

Originally Posted by mitch_m

I was just wondering what you meant by phase cancellation. It defies the current laws of physics for certain frequencies to travel faster than others. So I'm not sure that a pedal would be needed to fix this nonexistent problem. And phase cancellation doesn't happen until after the amp. So what does it really do?

And my second question was basically asking if you noticed any loss of mids when you set the pots straight up.

cheers

So you're second guessing what BBE says then :)

To that, I don't have an answer for you. All I know is that it SEEMS to do what it claims it does, and I'm extremely happy with the outcome.

There are loads of discussions of pro/anti BBE sonic max, and I really don't want this to turn into one of those.

Agree to disagree? :)

[mitch_m]

Oh yeah I don't want to argue. I was just curious as to how you liked it and what it did.

Consider this dialogue ended then I guess.

And again, happy NPD!