Delays with Dotted 8th settings...

[Thighbanez]

Greetings,

I would like to know if you all know of any pedals under $100 that do the dotted 8th delay via a switch or knob setting. I know of the following:

- TC Electronics Flashback ($160...so it doesn't qualify)

but that's it.
I thought the Boss DD-7 did it, but it doesn't have a switch setting like the TC Electronics Flashback.



So currently, I'm stuck with Google and searching through endless posts on various forums.

Can anyone help make my search a little shorter? I don't want to walk into the GC Swap Meet tomorrow morning and get ripped off.

Thanks in advance!

[Thighbanez]

nrvana8775

dd5 preset 12 does it.

Okay, I guess I will have to look for a used one of those.

EDIT: This must be some kinda joke...there is no "preset 12"

[Guitfiddler]

Boss DD5 or DD7 if you want to use an external tap--which I definitely would--can be had for cheap.

Line6 echo park, Digitech digi-delay also do dotted 8ths.

But with any delay you can find the dotted 8th tempos, just not easy without tap tempo. I

[Thighbanez]

Originally Posted by Guitfiddler

Boss DD5 or DD7 if you want to use an external tap--which I definitely would--can be had for cheap.

Line6 echo park, Digitech digi-delay also do dotted 8ths.

But with any delay you can find the dotted 8th tempos, just not easy without tap tempo. I

Thank you Guitfiddler. I am going to see if I can find a "Line-6 Echo Park" tomorrow as it's a pretty compact delay pedal and doesn't require an external Tap.

If not, I will have to bite the bullet and buy the TC Electronics Flashback new. Hopefully I won't be in the doghouse too long...

[csbluesman]

Thighbanez, Looks like your trying to do the same thing that I am. I just started playing in worship service once again, its been a couple years, so now they want the Chris Tomlin, and U2 style stuff and I'm thinking that the Tc Electronic Flashback will work good along with my Carbon Copy. I just don't want to spend the money if there is something better that will work for the same price. I've also been thinking really hard about the Line 6 DL4 the only draw back I can see is the size and the price is a little more.

[JoshuaCLS]

Originally Posted by csbluesman

Thighbanez, Looks like your trying to do the same thing that I am. I just started playing in worship service once again, its been a couple years, so now they want the Chris Tomlin, and U2 style stuff and I'm thinking that the Tc Electronic Flashback will work good along with my Carbon Copy. I just don't want to spend the money if there is something better that will work for the same price. I've also been thinking really hard about the Line 6 DL4 the only draw back I can see is the size and the price is a little more.

I wouldnt get the dl4. I would highly recommend the tc nova repeater(or nova delay) over it.

The switches are crap, the controls can be confusing, and the sounds/tones aren't as clean/warm/lovely as they should be.

Just my $0.02

[csbluesman]

Thanks JoshuaCLS,
I don't know I am really leaning towards the Flashback it seems like it will be easier to figure out how to use and I really like the size. I have a friend who has the Nova Delay and really likes it but isn't it a lot more money? Maybe I will look at it again.

[Thighbanez]

Originally Posted by csbluesman

Thighbanez, Looks like your trying to do the same thing that I am. I just started playing in worship service once again, its been a couple years, so now they want the Chris Tomlin, and U2 style stuff and I'm thinking that the Tc Electronic Flashback will work good along with my Carbon Copy. I just don't want to spend the money if there is something better that will work for the same price. I've also been thinking really hard about the Line 6 DL4 the only draw back I can see is the size and the price is a little more.

Yep, I'm in the EXACT same boat. They want that sound more in my church too and I currently have 2 non-tap tempo pedals that I use together to get "dotted 8th". It's a FRICKEN BEAR to try and dial in the tempo for songs and I get it wrong too often. I have to make a move tomorrow before noon so I can practice for sunday's double-header and revival next thursday and friday.

I may end up in the doghouse but It's looking like I'm going to have to buy that Flashback Delay tomorrow. It would save a BUNCH of space on my pedalcase. Only drawback is the cost...$160 new.
I may not even go to the swap meet 2moro morning...

[JoshuaCLS]

Originally Posted by csbluesman

Thanks JoshuaCLS,
I don't know I am really leaning towards the Flashback it seems like it will be easier to figure out how to use and I really like the size. I have a friend who has the Nova Delay and really likes it but isn't it a lot more money? Maybe I will look at it again.

I got my nova delay for $185 new, from an authorized retailer (with full warranty) on ebay. that's only $25 more than the flashback.

the nova has tap tempo and audio tempo, where as the flashback just has the audio tempo function.

I'm not a huge fan of the audio tempo function, as when you hold down the switch, it actually mutes your signal, so you can't set your tempo WHILE playing. So if you don't get it right at first before the song starts, (esp with dotted 8th stuff) you could be off the whole song, unless you stop playing.

not trying to talk you out of something you want, but IMHO nova (or repeater) are far superior to the flashback.

[JoshuaCLS]

Originally Posted by csbluesman

Thanks JoshuaCLS,
I don't know I am really leaning towards the Flashback it seems like it will be easier to figure out how to use and I really like the size. I have a friend who has the Nova Delay and really likes it but isn't it a lot more money? Maybe I will look at it again.

Heck, just looked at MF, and the repeater is on sale for the SAME price as the flashback. $169.

the main differences between the repeater and the nova...

Nova has 9 presets, repeater has none.
Nova has a digital readout for MS or BPM, repeater does not.
Some of the mod funtions are supposedly "upgraded" on the repeater.

If you need presets, get the nova. If not, get the repeater.

[csbluesman]

So did you get the Nova Repeater RPT-1 or the Nova Delay ND-1? I believe my friend has the ND-1.

[tjalla]

A used DD20 will cover alot of bases for not much coin, and does .8th just fine

[Thighbanez]

Originally Posted by tjalla

A used DD20 will cover alot of bases for not much coin, and does .8th just fine

Takes up more space than 4 delay pedals.
No thank you.

Thanks for the info though...I counted that one out due to it's huge real estate requirement.

[Suicideking]

If you dont need the presets or the tap tempo get a Flashback. I just got one and you wld be suprised how easy the strum tempo is to use. I can actually easily switch the tempo during songs and on the fly with the Flashback. I have used it and the Nova and I like them both but IMO the Flashback sounds a little better and has more options, plus you get the Toneprint feature..

[Thighbanez]

Originally Posted by Suicideking

If you dont need the presets or the tap tempo get a Flashback. I just got one and you wld be suprised how easy the strum tempo is to use. I can actually easily switch the tempo during songs and on the fly with the Flashback. I have used it and the Nova and I like them both but IMO the Flashback sounds a little better and has more options, plus you get the Toneprint feature..

SOLD!!
:D

[csbluesman]

Thighbanez, Let me know what you think, when you get it. The closest place for me to get one will not have them for a few days so this will give me more time to think about it. I would rather wait then order on line, the guys at the local store treat me well and I would rather see them get the sale.

[Suicideking]

Yeah I have the Carbon Copy and the Flashback on my main board right now. I dig the Carbon Copy still for the analog darker sounds. The Flashback does a great Tape, Mod, and Digital Delay. Dont be afraid to tweak it to just how you like it because it has a LOT of delay space on that knob. You have a LOT of delays and modes on the Flashback and I can find uses for a LOT of them..

[tbader]

Just for some clarity, the DD-7 does, in fact, do dotted eighth notes, but only on the 800ms setting. It will not do any subdivision (only 4/4) in analog, reverse, or modulated modes.

But, in my mind, the DD-7 is a truly upgraded version of the DD-5. Some prefer the overall tone of the DD-5, but I personally prefer the clarity and fatness/roundness of the DD-7's digital repeats. I'm looking to get a second one, actually.

Todd

[1300 E Valencia]

Originally Posted by tbader

Just for some clarity, the DD-7 does, in fact, do dotted eighth notes, but only on the 800ms setting. It will not do any subdivision (only 4/4) in analog, reverse, or modulated modes.

To be clear, the DD-7 still does tap tempo when switched to the dotted eighth note position. It's not limited to 800 ms.

[tbader]

Originally Posted by 1300 E Valencia

To be clear, the DD-7 still does tap tempo when switched to the dotted eighth note position. It's not limited to 800 ms.

Correct. :)

You can tap tempo in any mode (except HOLD), but only in the digital delay modes can you tap quarter notes and have it subdivide according to which mode you are in.

For instance:

3200ms = quarter notes
800ms = dotted eighth notes
200ms = eighth notes
50ms = quarter note triplets

The mode names only have to do with the maximum delay time for each mode (except in long delay mode, in which the max time is doubled). But, the tempo is variable by tap input or using the Delay Time knob.

The modulate and analog modes both max out at 800ms, however. I never understood why, considering its ability to do over 6 second delays in the digital and reverse modes. I guess it's better than the 300ms max delay time that the DM-2 had, which is the pedal the analog mode models.

I wish you could do dotted eighths in analog mode, honestly. It would be sweet if analogmike @ Analog Man could figure out how to mod it so it is possible.

Oh well.

Todd