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Old July 12th, 2011, 02:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Best wireless guitar system?

Hey guys, I'm thinking of getting a wireless guitar system and I'd like to know your opinions and experiences with them. The reason I'm getting one is because I like to keep the energy rolling during shows, and I like to change guitars quickly. So I'm looking at buying multiple transmitters. I need a receiver that can take up to 4 transmitters. Most importantly, I really need one that isn't going to make me loose any tone whatsoever. I need one that sounds exactly the same as it would with a cable.
Thanks a lot guys. :)

p.s. I was thinking of getting this one just because it already comes with multiple transmitters, but I thought because of the price it's probably going to make me loose a lot of tone: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-a...-guitar-system

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Old July 12th, 2011, 05:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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My opinion on wireless systems:

Unless you're dropping loads of cash on them, for the really quality ones, ie. $500+, you're probably going to loose loads of tone.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 05:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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My opinion on wireless systems:

Unless you're dropping loads of cash on them, for the really quality ones, ie. $500+, you're probably going to loose loads of tone.
that's what i'm most worried about - losing tone. i'm willing to spend $500+ on one. also, if you loose so much tone from them, then i wonder how a lot of professional musicians use them and don't loose tone.
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I don't do wireless ( usually too big of a band on too small a stage ) but people seem to really like the new line 6 stuff.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 09:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
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If I were going to go the wireless route I would choose Line 6.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 09:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Am very happy with the Brace digital wireless. It's simple to use, and neither I nor my bandmates can hear a difference between it and a cable...and it costs less than the Line 6.

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that's what i'm most worried about - losing tone. i'm willing to spend $500+ on one. also, if you loose so much tone from them, then i wonder how a lot of professional musicians use them and don't loose tone.
They're using $1,000+ systems, that result in very little loss of tone.

The mid/high end shure systems are great. I've also heard lots of good stuff about the new line 6 units, though I can't say I have personal experience with them.
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Good wireless technology is getting cheaper and more accessible.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 10:09 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I'm a freak about tone. The Line 6 G50 and G30 sound as good as a cable. Really.

The G50 has more channels, a bigger range, a few more controls and a metal - enclosed transmitter, it's worth the extra money over the G30 (which has a plastic transmitter). Extra transmitters are available and work great. The sound of the two units is identical.

In the US, the G50 costs $350-$380 new, extra transmitters for it are $180. The G30 costs $260 new.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 11:32 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I'm a freak about tone. The Line 6 G50 and G30 sound as good as a cable. Really.

The G50 has more channels, a bigger range, a few more controls and a metal - enclosed transmitter, it's worth the extra money over the G30 (which has a plastic transmitter). Extra transmitters are available and work great. The sound of the two units is identical.

In the US, the G50 costs $350-$380 new, extra transmitters for it are $180. The G30 costs $260 new.
I was considering the G50! If the reciever has more than 1 channel, that means you can buy multiple transmitters for it and use them on different guitars right? Sorry, I'm new to this wireless stuff.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 11:44 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I'm a freak about tone. The Line 6 G50 and G30 sound as good as a cable. Really.

The G50 has more channels, a bigger range, a few more controls and a metal - enclosed transmitter, it's worth the extra money over the G30 (which has a plastic transmitter). Extra transmitters are available and work great. The sound of the two units is identical.

In the US, the G50 costs $350-$380 new, extra transmitters for it are $180. The G30 costs $260 new.
+1 for the G30. The kicker for me was the 1/4 -> 1/4 transmitter cable. Any patch cord will work. I read about some people having trouble finding replacement cables for the G50. YMMV.

FWIW, I have walked so far from stage that the delay was unplayable before the transmitter crapped out.

And they really do react and sound just like a cable.

You can't go wrong with either one.
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Old July 13th, 2011, 12:05 AM   #12 (permalink)
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+1 for the G30. The kicker for me was the 1/4 -> 1/4 transmitter cable. Any patch cord will work. I read about some people having trouble finding replacement cables for the G50. YMMV.

FWIW, I have walked so far from stage that the delay was unplayable before the transmitter crapped out.

And they really do react and sound just like a cable.

You can't go wrong with either one.
I'm almost certain I'm gonna go with the g50. It seems to be a popular choice. Just curious, maybe you or someone will know. If I wanted to buy more than one transmitter, how would I go about buying just a separate transmitter?
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First, the G50 has 12 channels. The first six channels are the same as the G30 so on channels 1-6 you can use either transmitter with either receiver.

Second, if you want to use multiple guitars with one receiver, there are two approaches. (a) What I do is to attach the transmitter to my belt, and simply plug the cable into each guitar as I grab it. Especially if you get cables with a Neutrik Silent Jack, available from Lava here: http://www.lavacable.com/wireless.html (for the G50 order a TA4F connector on the transmitter end and a Silent 1/4 jack on the guitar end), you have no extra noise or issues. or (b) you can mount a transmitter to each guitar strap, make sure to tune them all to the same channel that the receiver's on, and when you switch guitars you have to turn off the transmitter on the previous guitar and turn it on on the guitar you're using. Only one transmitter can be switched on at any time.

Where can you get separate transmitter units? Sweetwater has them, http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TBP12 for the G50 and http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TBP06G30/ for the G30.

Note that the G50 receiver takes a standard 9v negative ground tip connector power cable like nearly everything else, but it needs 250 or more MV, so either use the wallwart that Line 6 gives you or if you're using a Pedal Power 2+ as many do, you need to get a doubling cable from Voodoo Lab (just call, they send them to you in a few days for a few dollars) and plug that into both outlets 5 and 6 on the PP2, to get enough current.
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I am currently saving up for a "Line 6 G30". I would go for the G50 but I don't really need the power upgrade requirements and snazzier packaging for the few gigs I play out at.
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First, the G50 has 12 channels. The first six channels are the same as the G30 so on channels 1-6 you can use either transmitter with either receiver.

Second, if you want to use multiple guitars with one receiver, there are two approaches. (a) What I do is to attach the transmitter to my belt, and simply plug the cable into each guitar as I grab it. Especially if you get cables with a Neutrik Silent Jack, available from Lava here: http://www.lavacable.com/wireless.html (for the G50 order a TA4F connector on the transmitter end and a Silent 1/4 jack on the guitar end), you have no extra noise or issues. or (b) you can mount a transmitter to each guitar strap, make sure to tune them all to the same channel that the receiver's on, and when you switch guitars you have to turn off the transmitter on the previous guitar and turn it on on the guitar you're using. Only one transmitter can be switched on at any time.

Where can you get separate transmitter units? Sweetwater has them, http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TBP12 for the G50 and http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TBP06G30/ for the G30.

Note that the G50 receiver takes a standard 9v negative ground tip connector power cable like nearly everything else, but it needs 250 or more MV, so either use the wallwart that Line 6 gives you or if you're using a Pedal Power 2+ as many do, you need to get a doubling cable from Voodoo Lab (just call, they send them to you in a few days for a few dollars) and plug that into both outlets 5 and 6 on the PP2, to get enough current.
Thanks a lot man, that really helped! So I just want to get things straight. If I were to buy multiple transmitters and use one receiver, all I would have to do, is set them all to say channel 1 and when I'm switching guitars turn off the transmitter of the guitar I'm already and turn on the transmitter for the guitar I'm picking up next?
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I got the Line 6 G30 last year. Haven't looked back since! Doesn't eat batteries, has great range and hasn't effected my tone. I've A/B'd with cables and can't tell a difference even at stage volume...PLUS it's just loads of fun and freedom! I tend to "wander" while I play, sometimes in circles and my friends would always get a laugh when I would inevitably get tripped up in my cord. Not any more!

The unit is really easy to just reattach to another strap, or like me, I just use the same strap with straplocks.

I did get rid of the crappy cable that it comes with and use neutrik plugs plus speaker wire gauge patch cable from the transmitter to the guitar. I recommend making one!
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I aint a pro but I cant notice ANY change in tone with my line 6 G30 either.

Being cable free is a godsend!!!
- damn cables, forever kicking, tripping over them....

Another Line 6 Wireless supporter here.
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Note that the G50 receiver takes a standard 9v negative ground tip connector power cable like nearly everything else, but it needs 250 or more MV, so either use the wallwart that Line 6 gives you or if you're using a Pedal Power 2+ as many do, you need to get a doubling cable from Voodoo Lab (just call, they send them to you in a few days for a few dollars) and plug that into both outlets 5 and 6 on the PP2, to get enough current.
A lot of those two into one cables double voltage NOT current so make sure you ask for the "current doubler"...

But I'll also say one outlet is plenty to power it up...the voodoo lab guys "pad" their numbers on the literature...it should work fine as long as you're on 5 or 6 like Wayne suggested...they're the higher outputs out of the 8
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They're using $1,000+ systems, that result in very little loss of tone.

The mid/high end shure systems are great. I've also heard lots of good stuff about the new line 6 units, though I can't say I have personal experience with them.
I like my line 6 stuff tonewise MUCH more than the outrageously priced Shure I had for a looooong time...the shure was VERY road worthy from a dependability standpoint, but I grew to hate the tone :( I've had a line 6 die on the road but I replaced it with no hesitation...the sound is worth the gamble!
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Thanks a lot man, that really helped! So I just want to get things straight. If I were to buy multiple transmitters and use one receiver, all I would have to do, is set them all to say channel 1 and when I'm switching guitars turn off the transmitter of the guitar I'm already and turn on the transmitter for the guitar I'm picking up next?
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