Just ordered a tech 21 roto choir

[andrenighthound]

Hey everyone, I just took the plunge and ordered one from sweetwater this morning. It seems, only being available since this morning, they already have a limited stock left! Anyone from here also bought one?

A few hours after I noticed there is a strymon lex pedal that people seem to really like, and other people are bashing the roto choir. Maybe I made the wrong choice? The video of the roto choir wasn't that great, but I assumed it was because it was a bad recording. It's hard to hear the ability of a pedal from a bad recording.

It also seems that the strymon lex pedal is not available yet? ANyone know?

Opinions and thoughts would be nice from anyone that feels like saying something about this.

[PeteMac]

G'day Andre.

Don't sweat it too much man . . . I'm sure it will be fine.
I saw a demo of the Tech21 a little while ago and it looks (sounds?) pretty sweet.
I was looking for them here in Oz . . . no go just yet.

Let us know what you think after yours arrives and you get to play with it a while.

and, yeah, the Strymon looks pretty good too.

[andrenighthound]

Thanks Pete. I got it coming for saturday. I'm going to try it out and let y'all know what I think.

[ruger9]

The Lex appears to be the new reigning king of leslie sims. There's also the Ventilator, but at $500, (the Lex is $300), it's simply out of most people's price range.

The Roto-Choir did look interesting when it came out, it's what, $200? Certainly worth a try. The video demos didn't impress me, but I own a H&K Rotosphere so my standards are already pretty high. Honestly, the demos of the Lex that Stymon made don't have me selling my Rotosphere either... altho a couple of user demos are much better.

Get the RC, if you don't like it, send it back. Since you bought new, you'll be able to return it. You'll only lose shipping. Who knows, the thing might kick butt.

[Tech21NYC]

Originally Posted by andrenighthound

Hey everyone, I just took the plunge and ordered one from sweetwater this morning. It seems, only being available since this morning, they already have a limited stock left! Anyone from here also bought one?

A few hours after I noticed there is a strymon lex pedal that people seem to really like, and other people are bashing the roto choir. Maybe I made the wrong choice? The video of the roto choir wasn't that great, but I assumed it was because it was a bad recording. It's hard to hear the ability of a pedal from a bad recording.

It also seems that the strymon lex pedal is not available yet? ANyone know?

Opinions and thoughts would be nice from anyone that feels like saying something about this.

The pedal just started shipping so I'm not sure who has had one long enough to say it's good or bad. It's a pretty impressive pedal. Why worry about making the wrong choice based on the opinion of someone who hasn't even tried it yet. You'll have it soon enough and can make "your" own decision whether to keep it or not. Besides, Sweetwater has a 30 day return policy as I recall.

[andrenighthound]

Originally Posted by Tech21NYC

The pedal just started shipping so I'm not sure who has had one long enough to say it's good or bad. It's a pretty impressive pedal. Why worry about making the wrong choice based on the opinion of someone who hasn't even tried it yet. You'll have it soon enough and can make "your" own decision whether to keep it or not. Besides, Sweetwater has a 30 day return policy as I recall.

Who said I was worried? Lol. I hope it's good so I didn't waste time. I got a recording coming up and would use it if it's good.

Hey tech21nyc thanks for chiming in.

[andrenighthound]

Why do I have to decide if it sounds like a real rotating speaker? Dam if the thing is advertised as a rotating speaker sim well it should sound like one and sound authentic. Can builders can get away it a lot because the average person don't know if its accurate sounding of a rotating speaker because they never had the experience of hearing a real one in person? I would hope tech21 would do great sim just for the fact that they are a good company. I use their products so I didn't blink an eye when I ordered the roto choir.

Tech21NYC tell me....does this new roto choir i bought sound authentic? You should know right???

[artdecade]

^ Nothing sounds like a rotating speaker except a rotating speaker. Emulations are exactly that... emulations. The designers obviously felt that they achieved their goals, but there are enough variables in place that nothing is going to fit the bill for every musician out there. It basically comes down to what you want to hear and if that particular emulation falls within that arena. I use a Rotosphere because I can get Beatles and Floyd tones that are convincing to me. There might be better pedals out there, but I have already achieved what I want to hear tone-wise.

[PeteMac]

So . . . did it come, did it come ! ! !



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[andrenighthound]

It came! It sounds pretty good. I played it for about an hour but I put it back in it's box. I'm fixing to return . I might wait for the lex to show up before I return the roto choir.

[BlueHeaven]

If the Lex is HALF the pedal that Strymon's El Capitan is then it'll be a keeper for sure.

[Tech21NYC]

Originally Posted by andrenighthound

...
Tech21NYC tell me....does this new roto choir i bought sound authentic? You should know right???

We used an actual Leslie as a benchmark when we designed the Roto Choir, we didn't try to emulate another manufacturers pedal. In terms of sound there is no pedal in the world that can sound exactly like an actual Leslie if you put them side by side in the same room. Even running our pedal (or any other company's pedal) in stereo will not yield the same results as a stereo source cannot duplicate the 360 degree sound stage of an actual rotating speaker. That's just the physics of sound. Keeping that in mind any real Leslie sounds you have ever heard other than live were all produced within the confines of a stereo or mono source.

Having said that if you were to mic an actual Leslie in another room in stereo and then compare it to our pedal, the sound would be very close. A stereo setup will always give a more dramatic effect.

Some things to consider. Our pedal will run for 10 hours with a battery or off of any standard pedal power supply and does not require a bulky wall wart adapter. Our distortion circuit, EQ and speaker emulations are all analog. The speaker emulation as well as the distortion can be bypassed and all functions of the pedal are available at all times via the top mounted controls.

[skywade]

I hope to try the Roto Choir soon once it hits the stores. For the asking price of both pedals, I'm not sold on the Lex nor Ventilator but I haven't played either yet. Tech 21 makes great gear and I have no doubt the Roto Choir will be another good offering from them.

[PeteMac]

Andre,
what was it about the pedal you didn't like ?

Curious minds want to know !

[andrenighthound]

I like it! But from the audio clips I heard on the Strymon website, it makes me want one bad. So I decided to order the Strymon. I just put roto choir back in its box so it doesn't get damaged IF I decide to return it after I get my Strymon. I may wind up keeping both. If I had to say something maybe to me the slow sounds a little dramatic to my ears. But I only played it for about an hour and now I'm away from home right now. I'm surprised no one else tried one yet. ????

[vjf1968]

IMHO the debate of Leslie sims and the real thing tend to get a little blurred when one has to realize that when bands in the 60's and 70's recorded with them in the studio, the signal has to travel through a mic and then through some signal porcessing and then the board and then finally to the recording medium. All of these would affect the sound.

I have played through Leslie cabs, Motion Sound amps, and the Boss RT20 and found that the Boss RT20 gets really close to the "studio" Leslie sound. The rotary effects in the Line 6 M9 can get close but I found the Boss to do it better. I assume that the Tech 21 and Strymon would be a notch above the Boss.

It is kind of funny when some people talk about the Leslie effect from studio recordings and not realizing the signal processing involved to make the sound fit into a mix.

[Doth]

Hey Guys,

The Leslie pedals aren't for me, but a friend told me about the Lex yesterday and when I was researching it on the web, I came across a Lex giveaway. I am in no way affiliated with this giveaway. I am not hosting a contest, and I don't think I am violating any of the TDPRI rules by giving this link. If I am wrong, please remove this post. I just wanted to let you guys know cause it never hurts to get a free pedal if you win.

The contest ends today.
http://www.dolphinstreet.com/blog/le...y-giveaway.php

Good luck if you guys enter and post a video if you win.

[Tech21NYC]

Originally Posted by vjf1968

IMHO the debate of Leslie sims and the real thing tend to get a little blurred when one has to realize that when bands in the 60's and 70's recorded with them in the studio, the signal has to travel through a mic and then through some signal porcessing and then the board and then finally to the recording medium. All of these would affect the sound.

I have played through Leslie cabs, Motion Sound amps, and the Boss RT20 and found that the Boss RT20 gets really close to the "studio" Leslie sound. The rotary effects in the Line 6 M9 can get close but I found the Boss to do it better. I assume that the Tech 21 and Strymon would be a notch above the Boss.

It is kind of funny when some people talk about the Leslie effect from studio recordings and not realizing the signal processing involved to make the sound fit into a mix.

That was my previous point. Unless you are in the room with it you are in essence hearing a compromised version of the Leslie. The same is true for amps recorded vs being in the room with them.

To the OP. I wouldn't let the video of someone else having better results with a different pedal be a big factor. It will still come down to how YOU sound with the pedal. Sometimes it can take a bit of time to get just the sound you desire.

[andrenighthound]

^ OK TECH 21 your right but its more like how the pedal sounds in general not just with me dude. Like I said before, I still want to give it some more time but it didn't really do it for me yet. I'll have both and keep my opinion to myself because I don't want people jumping down my back. Tech21 good luck on your new product. PEACE OUT!

[Tech21NYC]

Originally Posted by andrenighthound

^ OK TECH 21 your right but its more like how the pedal sounds in general not just with me dude. Like I said before, I still want to give it some more time but it didn't really do it for me yet. I'll have both and keep my opinion to myself because I don't want people jumping down my back. Tech21 good luck on your new product. PEACE OUT!

Here is a new demo with the pedal set for cleaner sounds.