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Old June 28th, 2010, 06:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The Line 6 UX2,,,

...is a recording interface as I'm sure everyone knows.

Anyway, I have one and I've found that there are a few virtual "boxes" in it that I'd like to acquire in real life.

For whatever reason the manufacturer doesn't identify these boxes by their real name. Trademark maybe? I was wondering if anyone who is familiar with this unit would know what the following UX2 units are based on.

Stereo square chorus
Digital delay
Killer Z distortion
Cavernous reverb
Sine chorus
Phaser

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Old June 28th, 2010, 06:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think most of the ones you mentioned are of Line 6's own invention. But I believe the Phaser is based on the MXR studio phaser
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Old June 28th, 2010, 06:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Do you mean that they aren't based on actual stomp boxes?

I believe I just found the Phaser on youtube. Mad Professor Tiny Orange. 400 bucks??? Ouch!
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Old June 29th, 2010, 12:41 AM   #4 (permalink)
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http://line6.com/modelPacks/fx.html

some of the models you listed are there, and as pointed out earlier, are line 6 originals. with that said, i bet they were stumbled upon while failing to model something else ;)
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Old June 29th, 2010, 11:33 AM   #5 (permalink)
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You have to remember when Line 6 designs a model on a certain stomp box it is based on a version of that particualr stomp box that they have. A 74 "script" MXR Phaser and a "block" logo one are not going to sound the same. Neither is an original Dallas Arbiter Fuzz Face and a Dunlop re-issue.

Another thing to keep in mind is that the models in Tone Port and Amp Farm are designed for recording in mind. If you try to match stomp boxes to the Line 6 models you are going to be in for some dissapointment.
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Old June 29th, 2010, 05:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks. One of the reasons I bought the UX2 was to audition different effects. I hadn't been involved in some time and never used much of anything in the past other than the reverb in the amp. The UX2 has served its purpose in that regard because I now have a clear idea of what effects I like.

So I guess it boils down to trying what's out there until the right one shows itself.
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Old June 29th, 2010, 05:30 PM   #7 (permalink)
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check your manual. They walk through each and every effect and they come right out and say what it's based on. Most of the ones you've pointed out are Line6 creations. If you want those in a stomp box, you'll have to get a M9, M13, or the individual stompboxes.

Stereo square chorus
Digital delay -line6
Killer Z distortion -Boss MetalZone MT-2
Cavernous reverb - Line6
Sine chorus - Line6
Phaser - MXR Phase 90
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Old July 1st, 2010, 01:44 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I love trying different combos on the UX2, I got mine last year. It'll never replace pedals but it will give you a good understanding of what certain pedals are designed to do. They also have to be careful with designs and descriptions as there are infringement issues.

Before I even think about buying a pedal, I come here and see what these folks think. You'll get all the info, good and bad, that you'll need!

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Old July 1st, 2010, 08:02 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I'm thinking of getting a UX1 for some home recording dabbling...is it a good choice? The price seems right for what you get.
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Old July 1st, 2010, 02:07 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Can you import a .wav or .mp3 to record with a backing track? or would I have to record it through the input first?

not to hijack...
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Old July 1st, 2010, 03:07 PM   #11 (permalink)
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check your manual. They walk through each and every effect and they come right out and say what it's based on. Most of the ones you've pointed out are Line6 creations. If you want those in a stomp box, you'll have to get a M9, M13, or the individual stompboxes.
hah - forgot all about the manuals. Got em on disk somewhere. Thanks.
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Old July 1st, 2010, 03:16 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Can you import a .wav or .mp3 to record with a backing track? or would I have to record it through the input first?

not to hijack...
The UX(X) is a hardware interface only. The software that runs it (Pod Farm) does not record. You will use additional software to do the actual recording.

When I bought mine last winter it came with demo versions of several different titles. You can look online to see what they are bundling with it now. My experience was that the demos, while they looked very nice, were so limited as to not be of any use. There are quite a few freebie recording programs out there and they are good enough for my purposes. Yes, you can import sound files into them.
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The UX(X) is a hardware interface only. The software that runs it (Pod Farm) does not record. You will use additional software to do the actual recording.

When I bought mine last winter it came with demo versions of several different titles. You can look online to see what they are bundling with it now. My experience was that the demos, while they looked very nice, were so limited as to not be of any use. There are quite a few freebie recording programs out there and they are good enough for my purposes. Yes, you can import sound files into them.
They say it comes with Ableton Live Lite 8-track recording software...so hopefully it will do that. I'm thinking of picking one up today. I have a project I was asked to do with an old friend from HS and Berklee. He's recording a new instrumental album and wants me to lay down some bars of soloing. I figured if I can import the track, then record on a separate channel...when he gets it, he can pull it out for his mix.
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Old July 1st, 2010, 04:37 PM   #14 (permalink)
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If you're after recording software I can wholeheartedly recommend Reaper, which is absolutely brilliant shareware and costs next to nothing. I've been using it for a few years now, and I much prefer it to Cubase (what I was using before).

I would definitely warn against trying to find pedals to match the line6 models. Go to your local guitar shop and try some similar pedals and you should find what you like.

You could try the line6 tonecore pedals, but don't assume they will scratch your itch until you've heard them; I tried a couple of them and didn't like them at all. I was particularly disappointed with the tap tremolo I bought, which was noisy and didn't work the way I had expected. The tap tempo feature, it's main selling point imo, is awful!
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They say it comes with Ableton Live Lite 8-track recording software...so hopefully it will do that. I'm thinking of picking one up today. I have a project I was asked to do with an old friend from HS and Berklee. He's recording a new instrumental album and wants me to lay down some bars of soloing. I figured if I can import the track, then record on a separate channel...when he gets it, he can pull it out for his mix.
If he's using Ableton you can just record whatever and email him the Ableton file. Or, you can record and convert it to wav and he can convert it to whatever he needs. The UX series are good, IMO. Not what the pros use but good enough for most. Podfarm is a blast.

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Old July 2nd, 2010, 10:07 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Just picked up a used TonePort KB37 for $60. Sounds great.
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Old July 3rd, 2010, 02:40 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Picked up a Tascam US-144mkII with Cubase LE4...this is going to be fun. I'll record going direct out of my Micro Cube which I already know sounds amazing! Maybe a Tech 21 Character pedal will be in my future.

Zero latency on this baby...superior preamps, midi in/out...so many more options than the Line 6 for the same money.
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Old July 3rd, 2010, 07:21 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Zero latency on this baby...superior preamps, midi in/out...so many more options than the Line 6 for the same money.
This post is meant as a 100% friendly, mine-is-better-than-yours comment. Please take it as such.

Preamps built into recording interfaces are never, ever superior unless you're spending more than a grand on the interface, and even then, most will prefer an outboard pre. That being said, my UX1 has a very nice selection of preamp models that can create a bunch of quite useful sounds. I do kinda wish I had MIDI, but I have a MAudio USB MIDI keyboard, so it's not a huge problem for me.

You also don't get POD Farm with the Tascam, and while it's not something I'd use for serious recording (like the UX1 in general - or the Tascam unit) it's made my demoing things up a snap. I'm sold - and this from a guy who once had a strict policy about plugging his guitar into anything that has to boot up.
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This post is meant as a 100% friendly, mine-is-better-than-yours comment. Please take it as such.

Preamps built into recording interfaces are never, ever superior unless you're spending more than a grand on the interface, and even then, most will prefer an outboard pre. That being said, my UX1 has a very nice selection of preamp models that can create a bunch of quite useful sounds. I do kinda wish I had MIDI, but I have a MAudio USB MIDI keyboard, so it's not a huge problem for me.

You also don't get POD Farm with the Tascam, and while it's not something I'd use for serious recording (like the UX1 in general - or the Tascam unit) it's made my demoing things up a snap. I'm sold - and this from a guy who once had a strict policy about plugging his guitar into anything that has to boot up.
No, really...nothing was meant from it at all...I'm just excited.

I know practically zip about computer recording (recording in general) and this is going to get me into my long awaited process of actually archiving the legacy of my years of love for the instrument.

I think this is a little better than a decent start.

If you knew me, you'd know I'm not boastful or materialistic...so no harm.

No serious recording here. I like to think I'm a smart guy but the Cubase has my head spinning. I don't even know were to start. It's like an alien language to me. But at least now I have the means to learn at my leisure. I think this will do me just fine.

I tried out the JamVox for a day...now that was fun! The modeling software was a blast and sounded great.
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My $.02

Regarding any DAW that you're trying to learn: Hit record

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