Getting this delay effect?

[smoss469]

Burn

It sounds like there's a phaser effect on the repeats but I don't think that's it.

I can't get anything close to it as far as the repeats. Matching the rate is easy,however how do you get the decay on those notes? Is there a certain delay on the DL-4 that does that?

Here's his gear walk through: Gear Walthrough

EDIT

There are a few covers on youtube of people playing it, most with Line 6 amps. The one that had a reply on the effect just said he used the delay on the amp but didn't recall the settings, so I don't think it's some special signal routing etc.

[Roli]

They created that sound in the studio, it's not a live effect you could recreate with pedals.

[Frontier9]

I have an old Arion analog delay that has a stereo output - I wonder if you could use a stereo delay and have one output go directly to the amp and the delayed output to a wah pedal or some kind of auto-wah device (or phaser?) and then on to your amp. That is a very cool effect, btw - it would be nice come up with a reasonable facsimile at home.

[smoss469]

Originally Posted by Roli

They created that sound in the studio, it's not a live effect you could recreate with pedals.

I've seen them play it live twice. Both times it had the exact same sound. It can be done. I'm thinking it's just 1 of the delays in the DL4.

[Telenator]

That sounds like a stereo delay with one side clean and the delayed signal going through a half-cocked wah.

[octatonic]

It is a pretty simple effect- the delay effect is fed through a low pass filter.

I use this all the time- The Eventide Time Factor does this as a preset, but most multi fx can do it.
If you have a delay pedal with separate wet/dry outs you can just stick a filter pedal on the wet and you are good to go.

[imsilly]

Originally Posted by octatonic

It is a pretty simple effect- the delay effect is fed through a low pass filter.

I use this all the time- The Eventide Time Factor does this as a preset, but most multi fx can do it.
If you have a delay pedal with separate wet/dry outs you can just stick a filter pedal on the wet and you are good to go.

That was what I was about to say, you could always use a proper tape echo and have it running with it's EQ and gain going to cut the treble and increase the distortion. My old Roland Space Echo can sound like this if you dial it in right. Use it in stereo and you would would get a similar sound.

Echo's are soo much fun to play with!

Also I don't really dig this sound kind of weird way of using an echo really. I know Bo Diddley later on started to mess around with echos and filters and got a much better tone, but then he was a genius are getting guitar effects to sound unusual and great. Some of his effect use was beyond amazing, so many, "how did he do that!" moments. Anyway just check out his guitar tones on The Super Super Blues Band album on tracks like, Oh Baby and Diddley Daddy, superb album.

[redstringuitar]

Sounds to my ears like the repeats are phasing.

[smoss469]

Originally Posted by redstringuitar

Sounds to my ears like the repeats are phasing.

Thats what it sounds like to me too. I saw the Wah theories etc, however he doesn't have a Wah in his rig. He also doesn't use any type of filter effects in his rig either.

[punkclash05]

I'm a huge Trio fan and I had this sound with an Arion phaser and and Boss DD-3 Delay! I had the distortion version of the Line 6 pedal (the DM-4) and I didn't like it. It sounded fake, but I never had the chance to use the DL-4.

I met Matt on their last tour and asked him about his rig after seeing the video on his rig and he said he only really uses the DL-4. I said I had the Line 6 DM-4 and he said "the green one?" and I said no the gold one, the distortion one, and he said "oh right, I don't really use that one" haha. It was really funny to here him say that.

[TB72]

It's the Sweep Echo model on the Line 6 DL4. Nails that tone exactly.

Later...

[smoss469]

Originally Posted by TB72

It's the Sweep Echo model on the Line 6 DL4. Nails that tone exactly.

Later...

Outstanding. That's what I was hoping to hear!

[dalandan]

Or you can get a delay that has an effects loop and put a filter there. sounds like phasing but is actually a filter like the subdecay prometheus.

or you can use the DL4 like Matt Skiba does and find the right setting.

[Alamo]

In that gear walkthrough it appears that he uses a Boss DD-3 (Over 'n Out) where the 2nd output is connected to the bass input of his Boss Super whatever (named Ballz)....

could be wrong, but maybe...

[smoss469]

Originally Posted by Alamo

In that gear walkthrough it appears that he uses a Boss DD-3 (Over 'n Out) where the 2nd output is connected to the bass input of his Boss Super whatever (named Ballz)....

could be wrong, but maybe...

It's a super octave.