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Old December 23rd, 2009, 04:50 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Eddie's right -- an opto type comp with wide bandwidth will be the most transparent. Such units are the faves of the top studios, i.e. Cranesong STC-8, Pendulum ES-8, etc.

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Old December 23rd, 2009, 05:32 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I have and like the aphex punch factory, although you have to change the nuts on the input and output jacks because they are plastic, and aren't attached to the metal case. nuts from another pedal (a dod i wasn't using) corrected this. Its transparent, only two controls, drive and volume and totally cheap, No problems in 2 years.
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Old December 24th, 2009, 12:40 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Punchfactory is superb on bass also...
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Old December 24th, 2009, 02:23 AM   #44 (permalink)
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New Whirlwind "Red Box" is actually the Original MXR.

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I'm new to this great Forum, but I've been building, repairing, and playing for close to 40 years. First off, I am not affiliated with Whirwind USA, or any other company, but I have known the owner (cofounder of MXR) and many of his employees since 1970. These are great, knowledgeable people, and they have re-introduced a series of pedals called the "Rochester" pedals. I got the chance to play the "Red Box" recently, and was blown away by a sound that I hadn't really heard since the 70's. These are made to the original design specs, and hand built in the US. I actually use it to kick up volume for clean leads. I think they are worth checking out.
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Old December 24th, 2009, 02:35 AM   #45 (permalink)
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I saw/heard a Rochester Red. You should hear the MXR re-issue, my opinion is that it blows the Whirlwind away. Ironic, wind, blown away... Twice the price true, but you gets what you pays for. The Rochester wasn't bad, just average. They say it's an exact replica from the 70's but the first thing I noticed was a very un-70's looking wall wart. :)

IMO even the cheaper MXRs outperform the Rochester sonically, i.e.:
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Old December 24th, 2009, 08:43 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Diamond Compressor! I've only had two comps (this and a Hifi modded CS-3 by SolidGoldFX), but I now understand why people would need a comp. This is now always on into my Bluesbreaker with my Tele :)
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Old December 24th, 2009, 08:58 AM   #47 (permalink)
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I have only used my Keeley and I doubt I will ever try another one. Yes, it is that good.
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Anyone tried or heard the Tonerider CP-1 compressor? I'm a fan of their pickups and am intrigued by this one, as I'm in the market for a cheapish but good sounding compressor.
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Old December 25th, 2009, 12:30 AM   #49 (permalink)
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I have always wanted to try a Tonerider CP1 or an ulite Moen unicomp, both ,nice looking pedals, They are always on Ebay new for around 70 bucks,
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Old December 25th, 2009, 01:40 AM   #50 (permalink)
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I'm loving my MXR super comp. It's on almost all the time.
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Old December 25th, 2009, 08:51 AM   #51 (permalink)
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I have the Mad Professor Comp Nova. That one together with my new Mad Professor Sweet Honey overdrive is perfect to nail a good country or blues sound.
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Old December 26th, 2009, 04:02 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Old December 26th, 2009, 10:27 AM   #53 (permalink)
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Let me just say that im a big fan of Tone knobs because i feel that they give you so much control over your overall sound, unfortunatly most comps' dont have them. honestly the best ive played is a Wampler Ego Comp. It blows away a Keeley in price and sound. But if your not lookin to spend $200 then i would go with the Visual Sound Comp66. In my opinion the Comp66 is the 2nd best comp ive ever used, but for the money, its #1.

P.S. If it means anything to ya, i leant my Comp66 to a close friend that most of you know of, Brent Mason, a few months back and he didnt want to give it back to me.
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Sorry. T-Rex makes the compnova. Anyway it is very good! Really like it.
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Old December 27th, 2009, 03:47 AM   #56 (permalink)
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My all time favorite comp is the one in Craig Anderton's book, "Electronic Projects for Musicians." PAIA has the kits for around $40.00.

Right now I use a pre-Dunlop Dyna-Comp. I'd like to get a Tone Press.
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Old December 27th, 2009, 03:53 AM   #57 (permalink)
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In all my years in audio I've not seen a compressor with a tone knob. (this is what we sidechain for) You learn something new every single day... Twice on TDPRI. :)
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Old December 27th, 2009, 03:59 AM   #58 (permalink)
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Does Brent like the Ego Squasher comp? I know that he likes Keeleys right now, I recently asked him what he liked and that is what he said, He really liked the VS Rt 66??? I tried it, maybe I wasn't using it right, it had a ton of sustain, but that's about all, not much compression.
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Old December 27th, 2009, 09:11 PM   #59 (permalink)
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The Comp66 is the individual compressor unit that is in the RT66, but the Comp66 is the pedal that is only a comp. In order to change the attack control you must open up the bottom of the pedal and look on the inside. it changes the compression range tremendously. great pedal once you know how to work with it.

and about the tone knob, it has a tone control bypass switch also (just incase you perfer not to have control over your sound)
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Old December 28th, 2009, 02:05 AM   #60 (permalink)
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I did not like the tone of the rt 66 as compared to other comps, I noticed in a youtube, a guy had the sustain turned all of the way up to get a good chicken picken sound. Plus, he had the tone turned off. I like the Wampler much better, it really is musical and has a sweet tone.
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Old December 28th, 2009, 09:56 AM   #61 (permalink)
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It's hard to imagine a better compressor than the Keeley. I love the extreme squash of the old Dynacomps, but I could never get past the hiss. The Keeley is super-quiet, transparent and warm. It also works great as a clean boost.
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It's hard to imagine a better compressor than the Keeley.
I've owned a Keeley four knob. Great pedal for sure but I sold it. The Demeter Compulator and the Baja Tech Da Squeezer both pwn it. The Compulator is a dream for rock stuff, it kicked my vintage Ross off my board. The Da Squeezer is country twang in a box. Always used with my tele for chicken pickin.

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I love the extreme squash of the old Dynacomps, but I could never get past the hiss.
Comps should never have hiss or that breathy expansion sound. If it adds noise in any way it's off my board. The Compulator can get some decent squash but I use it more to beef up my tone and add sustain. The Da Squeezer has extreme squash without the noise.

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It also works great as a clean boost.
The Compulator works very well as a clean boost. The Da Squeezer even better with lots of db boost when the comp side is bypassed.
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I've owned a Keeley four knob. Great pedal for sure but I sold it. The Demeter Compulator and the Baja Tech Da Squeezer both pwn it. The Compulator is a dream for rock stuff, it kicked my vintage Ross off my board. The Da Squeezer is country twang in a box. Always used with my tele for chicken pickin.



Comps should never have hiss or that breathy expansion sound. If it adds noise in any way it's off my board. The Compulator can get some decent squash but I use it more to beef up my tone and add sustain. The Da Squeezer has extreme squash without the noise.



The Compulator works very well as a clean boost. The Da Squeezer even better with lots of db boost when the comp side is bypassed.
So many great compressor pedals, so little bank account to be able to afford to try them all.
I use compression primarily for clean/semi-clean slide playing (think, Lowell George, George Harrison, Ry Cooder, etc.) It'd be fun to try all the pedals recommended on this thread to hear which gets me closest to the sound I'm chasing. I guess I'm after that old LA-2A sustain that Lowell George relied on for his tone.
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I had a Keeley 4 knob, but now have Wampler ego compressor. May be getting an OS or compulator
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I have one. Very low output volume making it impractical and useless for live use, but one heck of a good sound!
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It's hard to imagine a better compressor than the Keeley. I love the extreme squash of the old Dynacomps, but I could never get past the hiss. The Keeley is super-quiet, transparent and warm. It also works great as a clean boost.
Yes, those old Dynacomps had lots of hiss, including the 76 RI, but the tone and compression is a thing of beauty, After playing the first Keeley that I ever played, one in the 11,000 numbers, I told myself, I have never heard such beauty , great compression, I thought I would never hear a better compressor pedal. You know what?, I have not heard a compressor better than that Keeley, Now, I have heard clips of a Mad Professor Forest Green pedal that sound as good as that 2 knob Keeley, won't say better. But in playing Keeleys since then, every one has been a disapointment. I have played 2 4 knobs and a 2 knobber that I bought from PGS last summer and sent back.

Right now, I'm quite happy with my Wampler Ego Squasher, real musical, another Ross Variant. It sustains well, can't get any pops or transients out of it. It gets real nice when I put the attack on about 12 and turn up the compression, and I can get some nice syrupy ,punchy notes.

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I may have to take a chance and buy a Compulator then, just to see how it compares with the Keeley for slide work. I read that Sonny Landreth uses both a Keeley and a Compulator.
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Just pulled the trigger on a Used Keeley Compressor from GC. 30-day money back guarantee so we'll see how things go!
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Just pulled the trigger on a Used Keeley Compressor from GC. 30-day money back guarantee so we'll see how things go!
Scratch that. Yet another reason to avoid GC. The pedal was never in stock, Ugh.
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So im looking for a compressor that just adds sustain for just letting one chord ring out say in the begining of a song when everything starts to build up. I dont want non of the real compressed chicken picker trpe sound just a warm clean sparkly tone....


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I have been using the diamond compressor it is very transparent. But I also use a CS-3 Boss to for when I want more compression
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But it doesn't sound anything like real sustain.... Your strings will decay at precisely the same rate with or without compression -- the compressor will simply apply gain.
I think when most guitarists talk about sustain they mean the length of time a note keeps ringing out.

The electric guitar is not a transparent instrument. You can make it louder, but it's going to get more distorted. Likewise, compression can change the length of time a note rings out of your amp, but it will change the sound.

I'm okay with both effects.

I actually bought a Boss CS-3 earlier this week to play with. i wanted to get my OCD to hold notes longer, and so far I'm quite pleased.

Are the boutique comps any better at this? I have no interest in chicken pickin', just fluid guitar solos with not too much feedback.

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I like my Wampler Ego Compressor, It really is a musical and effective effect, that being said, it really can compress like a Dynacomp or give you a soft knee easy over compression with the sustain knob turned back and some blend from the clean channel added in. There are 2 totally different circuits in this compressor, a clean boost circuit with its own op amp and a compression circuit with its own OTA, a Harris Ca3080. The tone knob added the finishing touch to this , when it was added to the circuit, it really came alive, giving it more punch and clarity.
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The few that I have tried all seem to affect the attack which seemed slightly muffled/delayed. Every time I tried one I have removed it for this reason.

Anyone else notice a change in attack when using a compressor?
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I have the attack problem with the CS-3. This thread has started me doing a lot of reading on different comps, and now I'm gassing for an Ego.

The Wampler Ego and the Barber Tone Pump allow you to blend compressed and uncompressed signals. This means that you can set controls so that the note starts out unaffected, giving you normal attack, but as it fades, the compression kicks in, giving sustain.

I haven't tried it myself though, so I'm curious to hear from those who have how effective this trick is.

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Just found another with blend. Looks like a pretty cool pedal:



Some reviews complain of attack problems on it, though it seems to have excellent sustain as a trade off. Or maybe those folks didn't work with it enough to get the right settings.

This guy has no trouble running his Tele through it.

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