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Old December 18th, 2009, 11:51 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Old December 18th, 2009, 07:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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That would be great if they didn't suck.

I can't imagine that goes for the Hardwires...which, in fact, don't suck.
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Old December 18th, 2009, 08:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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its equal or lesser value though so you couldnt but a chorus factory and a bad monkey and get a jamman

its dumb unless your a diehard digitech fan.... anyone.... bueller?...... anyone
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Old December 19th, 2009, 03:51 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I don't know I just bought a used Digidelay with adapter for $40. It sounds good and has some cool features. I like the Monkey as well.
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I don't know I just bought a used Digidelay with adapter for $40. It sounds good and has some cool features. I like the Monkey as well.
The delay, chorus and reverb are decent...so, suck was a bit harsh. The Bad Monkey is ok too...it's one of those "for the price" pedals. I think they're all tone suckers. They are built tough too...so...sorry for the "suck"...although they do tone "suck".
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I have put my whole board through a loop pedal and A/Bed vs. straight to the amp and found the tone sucking to be negligable although YMMV. I also use a Boss (oh the horrors!) SD-1 and a Modtone Tremor. The tone purists would shocked!
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I have put my whole board through a loop pedal and A/Bed vs. straight to the amp and found the tone sucking to be negligable although YMMV. I also use a Boss (oh the horrors!) SD-1 and a Modtone Tremor. The tone purists would shocked!
I have heard the Bad Monkey do very bad things...I don't have any issues with my SD-1...maybe you have too many buffers in your chain.
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Old December 19th, 2009, 11:48 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Actually I did notice that with my Monkey hence the SD-1 now.
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Old December 20th, 2009, 10:01 AM   #9 (permalink)
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That would be great if they didn't suck.

I can't imagine that goes for the Hardwires...which, in fact, don't suck.
Man that's harsh.

The Bad Monkey is a fine overdrive.....great value. I enjoy my Monkey as much as I enjoy my Maxon OD9 and the OD9 costs about 4 times the price of a Monkey.



I rarely use Chorus (I lived through the 80's once...once is enough) but the Digitech X-Chorus nails the old Andy Summers Police Tone when you dial up the 4th knob (the Multi chorus knob). It's as warm as an old Ibanez CS9. I had one up until I bought a Line 6 M9 for all the classic effects that I rarley use.

Are you sure that the Digitech pedals suck? How do you know? Reality check time. Maybe the problem is your $79 amplifier. Lighten up.
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Man that's harsh.

The Bad Monkey is a fine overdrive.....great value. I enjoy my Monkey as much as I enjoy my Maxon OD9 and the OD9 costs about 4 times the price of a Monkey.



I rarely use Chorus (I lived through the 80's once...once is enough) but the Digitech X-Chorus nails the old Andy Summers Police Tone when you dial up the 4th knob (the Multi chorus knob). It's as warm as an old Ibanez CS9. I had one up until I bought a Line 6 M9 for all the classic effects that I rarley use.

Are you sure that the Digitech pedals suck? How do you know? Reality check time. Maybe the problem is your $79 amplifier. Lighten up.
Actually my amp is really nice for the bedroom... JJ tubes and a Warehouse Veteran speaker upgrade make it a very sweet clean amp and it takes my pedals beautifully.

They have a few decent pedals...they also have a lot of crap. I've been playing for 30 years...that's certainly not the only amp I've ever owned...I base my judgment on the experience of owning and using the pedals over my years of playing, gigging and teaching. I don't need to lighten up...don't be so uptight and smug.
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Most everyone here has played for 30 plus years. You don't need to respond to an enthused poster by telling them that their idea or choice of gear sucks. Lighten up. If you can't take it don't dish it out. You started it.
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Most everyone here has played for 30 plus years. You don't need to respond to an enthused poster by telling them that their idea or choice of gear sucks. Lighten up. If you can't take it don't dish it out. You started it.
Started what? You've got to be kidding.

He simply stated a sale...he didn't offer his opinion one way or the other...enthused?

And, as a matter of fact, if you read the thread you'd see that I said it was harsh and retracted the statement.
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Actually I did notice that with my Monkey hence the SD-1 now.
+1...I've come to really prefer the SD-1 tone...less tone suckage as well.
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Man that's harsh.

The Bad Monkey is a fine overdrive.....great value. I enjoy my Monkey as much as I enjoy my Maxon OD9 and the OD9 costs about 4 times the price of a Monkey.



I rarely use Chorus (I lived through the 80's once...once is enough) but the Digitech X-Chorus nails the old Andy Summers Police Tone when you dial up the 4th knob (the Multi chorus knob). It's as warm as an old Ibanez CS9. I had one up until I bought a Line 6 M9 for all the classic effects that I rarley use.

Are you sure that the Digitech pedals suck? How do you know? Reality check time. Maybe the problem is your $79 amplifier. Lighten up.
The Bad Monkey IS a tone sucker as are the rest of the pedals in that line...sorry...that's not good even "for the price" which, I might add, is a term nearly always attached to the BM.
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You guys are silly. Just the fact that any mfr is offering buy 2 get 1 free is pretty cool. And they started early enough to buy Xmas gifts for the kids, and extended long enough for kids to spend they're gift money.

It's pretty shallow to rubber stamp a brand name. Not everyone has been playing for 30 years, not everyone gets paid to play, not everyone needs super-cooler-than-the-other-guy pedals. I'm sure Digitech and many others are good enough for me, and a lot of other people.

None of my pedals are impressive through my dinky 8" amps. However, through 12" speakers they're all cool. The point of using any effects pedal is to "tone suck" or "add flavor" to your amp.
I have:
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one Devi Ever fancy schmancy overpriced box
one Digitech
My favorite is the cheapest one, least favorite is the most expensive one. I'm certainly not the expert, maybe I better run out and buy a BMW and some Guess jeans, then I'd probably be able to hear the tone qualities. Or if I'm lucky Digitech will pay Clapton a gazillion dollars to use his name and triple their prices, and my pedal will instantly be worth more and sound better.

Anyway thanks for the heads up BoB. If I needed anything I'd go for that deal.
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I get what you're saying. I'm not into the boutique, over-priced, over-hyped nonsense myself. I have what sounds good to me and what I can afford. I have one boutique pedal and it cost me as much as a non-boutique. To me, I love to find bang for the buck.
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Or if I'm lucky Digitech will pay Clapton a gazillion dollars to use his name and triple their prices, and my pedal will instantly be worth more and sound better.

Um.....dude..........



He didn't get a gazallion......50 grand maybe but not a gazillion.

I heard that he made enough off the endorsement that he remodeled the master bath in his flat in London. Vintage claw foot bath tub..the whole works. He calls the tub the Digitech Sponsored Tone Suck Soak Tub.

Say it 10 times fast.

Tone Suck Soak Tub.



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I've had my Digidelay for a few years now, and I think it's a pretty d@mn good delay pedal. I also thought that the Bad Monkey is a great pedal, it just wasn't the sound I was after...

I don't work for Harman International, but I just have to ask why people just crap on Digitech products...

If I want "true bypass", I plug my guitar STRAIGHT to the amp!
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Glass houses fellers. If you hang around guitar forums much, you kinda know what will get slagged and what most folks respect. It ranges a little bit from site to site... but, I'd say, if you don't like the heat, don't break out the fire wood and kerosene....

I'm glad there is a sale and I appreciate Bob bringing it to our attention. After that, the bickering and poor technical info is not necessary. I believe that 100% of the profits on the Crossroads pedal went to charity.

I tried several of those pedals and did not choose to buy any of them. Different strokes and all that. Keep it civil crate players!
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I have two of their units. The Digidelay, which is an awesome sounding and very functional delay unit... and the Hardwire Reverb. The Verb is a good sounding unit in spring mode which is a very good simulation of a short-spring/short-tank accutronics unit with a decent driver section like one of the DR.Z MAz amps.

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I have two of their units. The Digidelay, which is an awesome sounding and very functional delay unit... and the Hardwire Reverb. The Verb is a good sounding unit in spring mode which is a very good simulation of a short-spring/short-tank accutronics unit with a decent driver section like one of the DR.Z MAz amps.

2¢ for you.
The Hardwire line was manufactured for Digitech. They are very nice pedals and a step above their standard line. Pity production has been sent to China.
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I currently have 3 from that line. The Metal Master (hey I am experiencing a Metallica phase? and this one nails it), Digidelay and Bad Monkey. I have had the Bad Monkey for a couple of years and just bought the MM and DD used. I put the MM and the DD on the board and replaced the BM with the SD-1. I like this line of pedals.
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As someone that's about to buy a Hardwire CR-7...

I experimented with a few Digitech pedals a few years ago - I was new to the whole effects thing and immediately dug the idea of their Brian May pedal. I thought I had found my answer for a pedal containing a British overdrive, an acoustic simulator, etc. Sounded great in the store (on another amp)...

...until I got it home and TRIED to run it into my Deluxe Reverb at the time. Nothing sucked the tone faster than that pedal. Everything since had left a bad taste in my mouth.

I know there are fans of Digitech - many people dig the Bad Monkey. I think it's great they're offering that sort of rebate, but I think for a little bit more you could have something even better.
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I understand this is a different class of "pedal", but my Digitech RP500 serves me very well.

For those situations where I am plugging direct to the PA and I need options as far as numerous amplifier tones, the RP500 is hands down better than any other modeler I've owned... (and I've owned a lot!) http://joe.faraldi.com

In front of an amp, the RP500 also performs very well. It can be used as pedals without amp modeling.

I've also used Digitech pedals when I THOUGHT I wanted to go the pedal-only route. IMO, they did change the tone a bit (I had the BM, a chorus and the DigiDelay). However, I compensated on the amp side and made it sound very good. I went with a multi simply for utility and found that it also gave me massive amounts of tone and tons of options. Yesterday at church, I went from sounding like Waylon, to The Edge, to Andy Summers, to SRV. For my needs, it's a blessing.

So we all agree that none of us will ever reach THE tone?? It's cool. Let's just never take it personally. Life is too short friends.
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As someone that's about to buy a Hardwire CR-7...

I experimented with a few Digitech pedals a few years ago - I was new to the whole effects thing and immediately dug the idea of their Brian May pedal. I thought I had found my answer for a pedal containing a British overdrive, an acoustic simulator, etc. Sounded great in the store (on another amp)...

...until I got it home and TRIED to run it into my Deluxe Reverb at the time. Nothing sucked the tone faster than that pedal. Everything since had left a bad taste in my mouth.

I know there are fans of Digitech - many people dig the Bad Monkey. I think it's great they're offering that sort of rebate, but I think for a little bit more you could have something even better.
I agree...but I would feel confident in the Hardwire purchase...they're solid...nice pedals!
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I agree...but I would feel confident in the Hardwire purchase...they're solid...nice pedals!
That's why I'm making the exception - it's labeled Digitech but it's not really.
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That's why I'm making the exception - it's labeled Digitech but it's not really.
I had the CM-2 and the SC-2...both great dirt pedals...not quite my thing but really nice and versatile...not quite the tone I was seeking but probably perfect for others...both pedals get a lot of love.
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