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TDPRI Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Smyrna Ga.
Posts: 61
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Best Vox in a Box
I'm looking for a pedal that will give my DRRI a little Vox flavor. I'm mostly interestyed in the jangley clean/lo-gain od sounds and I'll be running into the front end of the amp. I know that a pedal can't make my Fender sound exactly like an AC30 but I'd like to get in the ballpark. I don't want to trade my Fender for a Vox or mod the amp in any way. I'm hoping to hear from folks who have ran the Carl Martin AC Tone, Menatone TBIAC, Tech 21 Liverpool or the Vox Over the Top Boost into the front end of an amp.
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Sebastion FL
Posts: 444
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I use the clean AC30 model, on my Zoom G2, and have been very happy with it. I mainly use the G2 pedal for Tape Echo and Tremelo. The G2 also gives you six band EQ, which allows you to bring out more of a Vox or Fender like sound.
The G2 also works as a Tuner, plus I carry it, in place of a backup amp. All modeling and effects can be turned off. It's become part of my normal set-up. Although I never use any of the preset models, the Beatles pre-set is pretty good. |
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Smyrna Ga.
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Sebastion FL
Posts: 444
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I normally use the channel switching on my amp, for overdrive. But I sometimes use the pedal with some Flange, for ZZ Top like distortion. |
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Smyrna Ga.
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Plano, TX
Age: 35
Posts: 230
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Well, I've got the OLC English Channel kit on order. I'll tell you once it's done. I was very impressed with the Vox-esque channel of the First Act 75 Watt amp I had for a while. They have a BHM (Brian May) version of the V-Stack and if it sounds like the Vox channel on that amp it would be a winner in my book.
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Plano, TX
Age: 35
Posts: 230
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TDPRI Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Smyrna Ga.
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Thanks Guys
I think I've narrowed it down to the Tech 21 Liverpool or the Vox Over the Top Boost. If anyone has run either of these pedals into a Fender Blackface style amp I'd like to hear from you. |
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TDPRI Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Smyrna Ga.
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Hi Tweedtone
I'd like to have the Menatone but it's no longer being made so I'd have to find one on ebay. Also, price is a factor in my decision. Does the Menatone do the Beatles thing as well as the higher gain stuff? |
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Friend of Leo's
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Menatone will reintroduce the amp-series pedals in Nov, apparently.
I have two TBIACs (6-knob/8-knob) and they are excellent, they don't play like pedals at all. I had the Carl Martin, which is more versatile but less tweakable tonally speaking. Running into a DRRI - I would strongly recommend trying before buying, or at least get a pedal with a dedicated 'cut' knob if you are planning on running it into the vibrato channel with its fixed bright cap which easily turns OD pedals into buzz-boxes. But the Menatone has an edge over the Tech21/Carl Martin with its responsiveness to guitar volume pot tweaks. |
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TDPRI Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Smyrna Ga.
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Thanks for the info Tjalla. Unfortunately, I've been unable to find any to try. I'm also wary of the Tech 21 due to the inability to turn the speaker sim off. Musicians friend had the Vox Cooltron Over the Top Boost on sale for $99 but now they are out of stock and have raised the price to $199 again. Maybe I should just wait till Nov. and try the Menatone. They seem to hold their resale value if I don't like it.
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: UK
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I just saw this forum post as today I was messing around with an OTTB. I've been very lucky to recently aquire a '64 blackface Super Reverb, which is great, but REALLY loud, so I've been going through my old pedals to see if I could find something that can give me a bit of dirt at lower volumes. This is the one that will make it to my board! I play country, blues and funk, so I wasn't after huge amounts of gain, and I wanted to get something that would just sound like a slightly cranked amp, but with more volume control, and this does it really well. I wouldn't say it makes the Super Reverb sound exactly like an AC30, but it gets a bit of that kind of vibe going, and I think it sounds good in it's own right. From what I remember it's a bit battery hungry though, so you need a power supply really... I'll be using it in the studio tomorrow, so I'll give you some more info after that if you're interested...
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Smyrna Ga.
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Thanks Tjalla and Fingersmith. I went ahead and ordered the Vox OTTB as Musicians Friend had them for $99. However, they are currently awaiting a new shipment so we'll see what happens. That's good news on the Tech 21. I've been impressed by what I'ver heard online so that might be another good option if the OTTB doesn't come in.
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: UK
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Well, I was only using it for a fairly low gain setting, to give a bit of crunch rather than full blown overdrive/distortion, but I thought it seemed to respond fairly well to picking and the volume pot, if that helps! I hope musicians friend get some back in stock for you soon Whoa Tele...
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Manila
Age: 53
Posts: 157
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I was playing with my strat through the OTTB yesterday and found out that the combination can get a bit too clangy and trebly with a bright amp (or with EQ set to "V"). It works great with my Epi Valve Jr which is dark-sounding by nature and lacks a tone pot. Worked well with my Classic 30 after I backed off on the amp's treble.
Sadly my SFPR is not working at the moment, so I wasn't able to test the pedal with a Fender-y sounding amp. I sure hope it will work with your DRRI. The pedal may probably give more bite to a semi-hollow guitar. ymmv |
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Smyrna Ga.
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Hopefully they will get some more in at Musicians Friend but I've been told that Vox has discontinued the pedal. |
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: P.E. South Africa
Age: 36
Posts: 369
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No worries mate !
I thought it was on your short list of units to buy, seeing that you mentioned it in your 1st post. It is the only Vox-in-a-Box that i tested, and it really blew me away ! I tried it through several amps, and it sounded perfect, even through the clean channel of a Marshall DSL50
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Tele-Holic
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: New York
Age: 53
Posts: 575
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I was also on the lookout for an AC30 type pedal and ordered the Tech 21 Liverpool. I just tried it yesterday with my DRRI. I did not like it at all. I'm sending it back. You're best bet is to try and find one and hear it with your own ears and decide for yourself. I couldn't find one in any of the music stores around here so I had no choice but to order one online. I'll never do that again.
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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TDPRI Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Smyrna Ga.
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Thanks for all the suggestions. Musicians Friend got the Vox OTTB back in stock for $99 so I went ahead and ordered one. Worst caseI can send it back. I'll let everyone know what the verdict is.
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TDPRI Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Smyrna Ga.
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I'll qualify this post by saying I've never had that much experience with Vox amps but lately I've been wanting some of that AC vibe without having to buy another amp. I decided to take a chance on the Vox Cooltron Over the Top Boost as MF is blowing them out for $99. I think this pedal may be the answer for me. It's inexpensive and seems to capture some of that shimmer/chime/sparkle that is characteristic of Vox amps. I know the Celestion Blue is essential but this gets close enough to the Beatles/Petty thing for me. I do find the pedal to be somewhat noisy and it also has a large footprint. Maybe a new tube would cut down the noise but overall this one's a keeper.
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Friend of Leo's
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: California
Age: 50
Posts: 3,210
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MAN, I wish I had known about that OTTB blowout!
There are only a couple pedals I've ever liked enough to want a backup, and that's one of them. This pedal won't turn an amp into an AC30 (I know for sure; I have an AC30), but it can definitely add Vox-i-ness to a Fender. Whoa Tele, you might want to try a new tube -- my pedal is really quiet.
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