New Dano Timmy Knock-Off - Transparent Overdrive

[studio1087]

Metal case
True Bypass
Seperate Bass/Treble Knobs
Copy cat of the Paul Cochrane Timmy pedal

$39

I've been googling info all morning and I have not read a bad review.

MF.com has free shipping with a $50 order so I bought one and three sets of strings.

Dano CTO-1 Linky

I can only find a couple youtube videos as it's brand new.....

GearManDude



I'm excited about this one.

John

[doggy1972]

Think theyre just about to bring out the V2

[Daddydex]

We had a big thread about this some time ago. Danolectro has agreed to make some changes and the new version will be shipping soon (if it isn't already). The new version will have an internal switch that will change the clipping pattern (or some s*** like that).

Also, the Danelctro Cool Cat Drive is said to be a knock off of the Fulltone OCD. That Dano pedal is only 25 bucks.

For the record, I have both and I really like the Transparent Overdrive with my solid state Peavey Bandit. Both pedals have tons of gain on hand.

Good luck.

Dan

[studio1087]

So this is old news?

Dang...where was my head? I love this kind of sound. For 25 beans I would have added the Drive to my order.

Thanks guys.

John

[Daddydex]

Consider yourself lucky that you have a life John!

Oh, and check it out on the The Gear Page. Both Paul C (who makes the Timmy) and the folks at Dano have chimed in.

Dan

[jmecale72]

I have several of the cool cat pedals. The TO, the Drive, the Vibe, the Fuzz and the Tremelo. The drive is a great pedal, as is the TO. They also stack together very nicely. I'm using the TO basically as a boost for my other pedals. The fuzz, surprisingly, is also a very good pedal. I like it for a good chunky rhythm. I've heard their fuzz is a clone of the Frantone Peach Fuzz pedal. For my tastes, the cool cat pedals really compliment my Sparkle Drive and my Blackstone OD pedal. A definite bang for the buck!

[doggy1972]

I love the Drive. Its a confirmed OCD clone and the cheapest one. Buckets of gain. I use the TOD for a boost too at the end of my chain

[jmecale72]

Originally Posted by studio1087

So this is old news?

Dang...where was my head? I love this kind of sound. For 25 beans I would have added the Drive to my order.

Thanks guys.

John

Do yourself a favor and get the drive too!

[TeleBrew]

Originally Posted by jmecale72

Do yourself a favor and get the drive too!

+1. I have both pedals, but like the Drive more than the TOD. Both are great, though.

[ruger9]

Originally Posted by Daddydex

The new version will have an internal switch that will change the clipping pattern (or some s*** like that).

Interesting, since Timmy ALREADY HAS THAT.

[jmecale72]

Originally Posted by ruger9

Interesting, since Timmy ALREADY HAS THAT.

"But these go to eleven!!!"

[Daddydex]

Originally Posted by ruger9

Interesting, since Timmy ALREADY HAS THAT.

Yep, I found that funny too. There are many conspiracy theories about and I think both parties found a way to sell a bunch of pedals. But damn, that TO is a great pedal.

Dan

[ruger9]

Well, in general I have zero problem with cloning... I understand the "moral" implications, and personally wouldn't PROFIT from a clone, but I think it's cool as a DIY.

What Dano did (profit) is unforgiveable, in my book. Besides, Timmy is smaller, built better, easier to tweak on the fly, and doesn't look like it's been beaten with an ugly stick.

[studio1087]

I appreciate the input guys. I called MF and they added the Drive pedal to my order.

John

[cdc3jj]

I watched the demos of the timmy vs tod and the overdrive vs the ocd. The timmy wins in my book. TOD wasn't that transparent to me. A little muddy and not as much punch when the highs were boosted to try to match the timmy. The ocd and the overdrive was a different story though. I will be picking one of these up. The OCD had just a touch more sustain, but not much. The OD is a killer sounding pedal from the youtube demos.

I can't help but wonder about build quality though. Seems like a few gigs, some grit from your shoes and a cable being unplugged while pissed off might do one of these little guys in. I have a surf and turf that replaced my modded up dynacomp. But I feel like I have to be gentle with that little plastic case.

[pcypert]

I bought 4 cool cats...love them all but slightly less love for the tremolo. The drives are both stellar pedals.

[Daddydex]

IF someone can clone a pedal and save me 100 bucks I am all for it. How many tube screamer clones have there been? How many telecaster clones for that matter?

Dan

[musicalmartin]

Cheers ,just ordered one from a seller on Ebay which used up my 10% Paypal voucher nicely .Looking forward to it coming .thanks for info ,

[imsilly]

Timmy sounds better in the clips, but the Dano sounds very very similar.

I think those that listen to both and have the money will get the Timmy, I know I would. Though if Dano can make a pedal that sounds good so cheap I think people shouldn't feel band for not buying it. I think this debate is good, can't help, but publicise the Timmy pedal one way or another and probably boost sales for both parties.

[stevieboy]

I thought the dry signal sounded best.

[fretbuzzard]

My guess, with absolutely no inside info, is that Paul C has sold a bunch of Timmys thanks to this controversy. The folks who want a Timmy and can afford it will still convince themselves that it sounds better than the Dano (I haven't played both, so I'll stay out of that one...) and shell out the money, those who cannot afford the Timmy will get the Dano, and a whole bunch of folks who hadn't even heard of the Timmy now have it on their radar as a pedal worth cloning. Everybody wins.

[chisa]

Originally Posted by cdc3jj

I watched the demos of the timmy vs tod and the overdrive vs the ocd. The timmy wins in my book. TOD wasn't that transparent to me. A little muddy and not as much punch when the highs were boosted to try to match the timmy. The ocd and the overdrive was a different story though. I will be picking one of these up. The OCD had just a touch more sustain, but not much. The OD is a killer sounding pedal from the youtube demos.

I can't help but wonder about build quality though. Seems like a few gigs, some grit from your shoes and a cable being unplugged while pissed off might do one of these little guys in. I have a surf and turf that replaced my modded up dynacomp. But I feel like I have to be gentle with that little plastic case.

it is all metal. much better build quality than the older dano stuff

[ramseybella]

Now for a note, Paul C and company Heritage Amplifiers are out of business (Closed for good). Thankfully I have a 30 Watt 2x12 Briton combo from Heritage that simply smokes, my point is Paul C is back to the Timmy and Tim building as he was in the beginning so he can use a little up ~an~up, I know we like cheap but have you looked inside a Timmy and then look inside a Dano?

I have a Dano just to see what the fuss was and it comes close, but When I bought a Timmy from Paul he dropped the price by around $30.00 due to the fact he was behind building and couldn't get the orders out in time, now thats a good guy and if you ever talked to him he is as good as it gets.

[vjf1968]

I do not think anybody is questioning Paul C's integrity or business acumen. Some folks just either can't afford or want to wait for a pedal and if they can get one for a lot cheaper and no wait time then they are going to do it.

[cdc3jj]

I tried the TOD today out of curiosity at a local seedy pawn shop. Played a sub par mexican tele...

(Only tele I have is a mexican, and it smokes every american and custom shop I've played. MIM doesn't equal worse, it just means you have to search for a good one, but I digress and this is for another post)

...through a ultimate chorus or some solid state monstrosity like that.

(ok so I am a little biased towards tubes, although I have a jc-160 that I wouldn't trade for a car. Even a nice car. A really nice car... Unless its paid off. Then I'd think long and hard about it)

I was BLOWN AWAY! That little freakin VW bug lookin' thing puts out TONE. The clip really doesn't do it justice. My budget just got reworked to include the TOD and the OD asap. Unfortunatly the goobers want more than MF so I guess my money is going to a evil corp. rather than a small town business goober. I hate that honestly. Seems like since the economy is down everyone is trying to make all their money on one sale, rather than lowering prices to move more products. Local shops (even the goober ones) are struggling already but this charge more for less attitude is driving more and more folks to the internet and ebay and craigslist and the like. Maybe I'm way off here and maybe I'm just ranting in the wrong section...

[FenderGuy53]

I have the CO-1 Drive and the original CTO-1 Transparent Overdrive and I love both.

I say original because, as was mentioned, Danelectro is "improving" the CTO-1 circuit, in order to make nice with Tim Cochrane (creator of the Timmy).

If yuo want two great pedals, grab these while they're still great!

[umasstele]

Honestly, the Dano Drive is my new favorite pedal. Love the thing- you wont be dissappointed!

[eddie knuckles]

I saw a TOD in my local guitar store and bought it immediately. I will save this (as it is my second one) as a backup in the future, or give it to someone I really like. I love the Drive as well as the TOD and i also have a sparkle drive in my chain at present. they are all set differently and sound very scary when played at the same time....

:o)

[Columbus]

Just my opinion, and I've never heard either of these in person, but judging from the YouTube video, the Paul C pedal sounds substantially better than the Dano.

[studio1087]

I'm in northern WI on business...working my way home to Milwaukee tomorrow.

I just checked postal tracking and my new pedals are at the house. The box is sitting in the entry way and I'm 200 miles away.

It's cruel mannnnnnnn.

The positive reviews have me all excited.

Tomorrow!

John

[jmecale72]

I' also like the way the TO stacks very nicely with all three of my dirt pedals...the Blackstone Overdrive, the Voodoo Lab Sparkle Drive and the Dano Drive pedal. It's ajust a great little pedal.

Just had to drive you a little more batty there studio1087!!!

[shinigami747]

bought a TO recently.
it's a nice pedal for the price. had a wee bit of muddiness (but it could just be my ratty strings!) but it's great for a touch of grit while still letting the guitar's original sound come though.
now i have to stop myself from getting the Drive pedal... must... resist...

[badmelonfarmer]

Originally Posted by ramseybella

Now for a note, Paul C and company Heritage Amplifiers are out of business (Closed for good).

I have no idea about Heritage, but Paul C is NOT out of business. I spoke to him on Tuesday and and he is still making the pedals.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndID=354097210

As other have said, a real nice guy.

Cheers

BMF

[Nub]

Originally Posted by Columbus

Just my opinion, and I've never heard either of these in person, but judging from the YouTube video, the Paul C pedal sounds substantially better than the Dano.

I tried a TOD... couldn't get rid of it fast enough. I thought it was overpriced at $40.

I tried a Timmy... it's still on my board, and I like it enough that I've got a Tim on the way.

[davidge1]

I just watched that youtube video, and even with my eyes closed I could easily tell the difference. The Dan Electro pedal sounds muddy in comparison.

[doggy1972]

Might get flamed here but,the EQs didnt seem remotely the same to me but, I could be wrong.I think for the $/£ the Dano is a great pedal. You just have to play with it a little. There are guys who only like boutique stuff but, I think its cool that good pedals can be had so cheaply. Theres a market for both.OK the TOD maybe doesnt measure up to the Timmy but, would you really expect it to?
Just my 2c/p
:)

[Anchoret]

Originally Posted by ruger9

I understand the "moral" implications, and personally wouldn't PROFIT from a clone, but I think it's cool as a DIY.

What Dano did (profit) is unforgiveable, in my book.

Why?

You people need to understand not only the letter but the INTENTION of patent law, which is that if something is deemed non-patentable as being not significantly original, but derivative of previous work (as 99%+ of stomps are), then the product or process concept BELONGS TO ABSOLUTELY EVERYONE, with the common good served by unlimited competition to produce it more cheaply or to develop it further in more useful ways.

If it IS patentable, then at the end of twenty years after which time the inventor and his assignees have presumably made enough profit on it, it lapses into the public domain where the same principle applies.

You people need to get a clue about this.

"Unforgivable" is the adjective that comes to mind for charging $179 (like the OCD) for nothing but a mildly tweaked generic dirtbox circuit built on a $4.82 board.

[andrenighthound]

TOD is the bomb! So is the cool cat fuzz! Both are on my board.

[rhinocaster]

Originally Posted by Anchoret

Why?

You people need to understand not only the letter but the INTENTION of patent law, which is that if something is deemed non-patentable as being not significantly original, but derivative of previous work (as 99%+ of stomps are), then the product or process concept BELONGS TO ABSOLUTELY EVERYONE, with the common good served by unlimited competition to produce it more cheaply or to develop it further in more useful ways.

If it IS patentable, then at the end of twenty years after which time the inventor and his assignees have presumably made enough profit on it, it lapses into the public domain where the same principle applies.

You people need to get a clue about this.

"Unforgivable" is the adjective that comes to mind for charging $179 (like the OCD) for nothing but a mildly tweaked generic dirtbox circuit built on a $4.82 board.

The system isn't set up to deal with the smaller sonic differences that are apparent to musicians. Actually, the system isn't set up to deal will sonic differences at all.

People are profiting from the work of others. I do find that unforgivable.

You can ask yourself, if the builder was your friend, would you feel comfortable making a clone of their pedal?

Surely you're not suggesting that something has to be illegal to be wrong.

[cdc3jj]

Bought the TOD today and played it at my weekly loud practice through an ac-30. Sound was killer. I have the surf&turf going into the TOD into a zendrive. Tone was smokin cool even through my earplugs. I still have a lot of awkward knob twisting to do but I'm satisfied that it'll hang around at least a week or two.

Tried the OD in store yesterday. Wasn't terribly impressed. It seemed a little nasaly to me. Too much high end and no real smooth roll off for it. However that could have to do with the POS amp I played it through. If I have $25 burning a hole in my pocket in the next couple weeks I might grab it to play with, and if it's not cool I'll use it for a paper weight. Goodness knows there are more expensive hunks of glass sitting on cats desks right now.