Boss Fender '63 Reverb PEDAL!!!!!

[johnnykf]

If this thing is as good as what everyone so far says, what's going to happen to the sales of other spring type reverb pedals like the Holy Grail, Mr Springy, Spring Chicken etc.?

[Synchro]

Originally Posted by johnnykf

If this thing is as good as what everyone so far says, what's going to happen to the sales of other spring type reverb pedals like the Holy Grail, Mr Springy, Spring Chicken etc.?

Thier devotees will persist. I like the Grail but not the extraneous noise that goes with it.

[guit30]

There are a lot of new reverb pedals out this year, on the gear page, nobody talks about this one, they all like the Spring Chicken or Hermida Reverb. I ordered one, but it will be a couple of weeks before I get it, because I had to use a certain company because of a gift card, the company special ordered it for me, hope I like it, I'm real finicky when it comes to pedals, I got a DD3 first and found it real sterile sounding ,so I sent it back and then heard about tis spring reverb, As long as it's a warm reverb , I'll be fine, I was going to get a RV5 , because I liked several of it's settings except the spring, also was interested in the digiverb, sounded real wet on some settings. It will work out
Jim

[eddiewagner]

thanks for the review! sound like this pedal is exa tly what i am dreaming of. i still have to wait to the end of this month, until they will be around here. eddie

[surfoverb]

Originally Posted by johnnykf

If this thing is as good as what everyone so far says, what's going to happen to the sales of other spring type reverb pedals like the Holy Grail, Mr Springy, Spring Chicken etc.?

Nothing? There's room for more reverb pedals. Holy Grail is very popular amongst the surf guys.

Everyday a new fuzz comes out, or a new delay, rangemaster, etc;

And with all pedals how good they are depends on what rig you use and what your idea of 'good' is. I let my friend borrow my BYOC MKII and he let me use his Addrock fuzz and we both disliked each others pedals.

But I play a Tele>Twin Reverb and he a Firebird>Marshall

[eddiewagner]

i just checked out the surfguitarforum and the guys there are not overly enthusiastic. they are starting almost a fight about that pedal vs. the "real thing". our poor friend czech-one-2 got almost shot down by reverbtank purists. they had to lock the thread. you got to see it to believe it: http://surfguitar101.com/modules.php...ewtopic&t=9262
thanks god, this place here is so cool and civilized.
eddie

[surfoverb]

Originally Posted by eddiewagner

i just checked out the surfguitarforum and the guys there are not overly enthusiastic. they are starting almost a fight about that pedal vs. the "real thing". our poor friend czech-one-2 got almost shot down by reverbtank purists. they had to lock the thread. you got to see it to believe it: http://surfguitar101.com/modules.php...ewtopic&t=9262
thanks god, this place here is so cool and civilized.
eddie

A lot of those guys are trad ****s. And proud of it, for some weird hipster reasoning.

[Uma Floresta]

A review w/ clips

http://www.musicradar.com/gear/all/g...-216023/review

[Synchro]

Originally Posted by Uma Floresta

A review w/ clips

http://www.musicradar.com/gear/all/g...-216023/review

I think they nailed it in their reveiw. As stomp-boxes go it's pretty good but it'll never beat the real thing.

[Johnny Isaacs]

I look at it like this: The real deal sounds amazing. That being said, who really gigs all the time with one? Yes, some players do. A lot of the places I play, it's just not practical. I think this comes the closes to capturing the sound of my vintage Fender Reverb Unit.

If you have the option of going to a store and trying it out, do so. You may like it, you may not.

Johnny Isaacs

[guit30]

Those clips sound great, can't wait to get mine and try it out, Boss's utube was not very good, the clips sound much better, wonder if Andy at Pro Guitar shop did one, he usually does not do clips of Boss pedals
Jim

[Uma Floresta]

These clips certainly sound better than the ones Boss put out. I'd love to hear one where the reviewer just cranks everything up to maximum. Screw subtly!

[czech-one-2]

Originally Posted by eddiewagner

i just checked out the surfguitarforum and the guys there are not overly enthusiastic. they are starting almost a fight about that pedal vs. the "real thing". our poor friend czech-one-2 got almost shot down by reverbtank purists. they had to lock the thread. you got to see it to believe it: http://surfguitar101.com/modules.php...ewtopic&t=9262
thanks god, this place here is so cool and civilized.
eddie

yeah Eddie, I was just joking over there and got pummeled by a bunch of reverb tank purists with zero sense of humor!
anyway, i cant wait for mine to come in the mail,it sounds like it is at least as good as i'd hoped it would be.

[eddie knuckles]

i am loving mine - surprisingly warm, very tweakable, and sounds great with my lap steel as well as my tele.

[pjholland]

Originally Posted by czech-one-2

yeah Eddie, I was just joking over there and got pummeled by a bunch of reverb tank purists with zero sense of humor!
anyway, i cant wait for mine to come in the mail,it sounds like it is at least as good as i'd hoped it would be.

I can't believe those guys were slamming Steve Trovato-a MONSTER player. If a reverb tank is the only way to go, why bother even looking at a pedal!!!! Makes me wonder if they have any life outside of surf music. Anyway, I've got to try this pedal sometime soon.

[PMan]

Of all the things people can get uppity over, I never imagined surf music to be one of them. That's the Internet for you, I guess.

[czech-one-2]

Originally Posted by PMan

Of all the things people can get uppity over, I never imagined surf music to be one of them. That's the Internet for you, I guess.

Yeah, thats why i said maybe they should try surfing,just to chill out and step away from the monitor for awhile!

[johnnykf]

They'd be much happier and less persnickety if they had woodies.

[Synchro]

Originally Posted by johnnykf

They'd be much happier and less persnickety if they had woodies.

The joke potential of that comment is off-scale. :) I'll behave however.

[czech-one-2]

well it arrived and my initial reaction is it sounds extremely good.
with the mix knob for wet/dry mix and a tone control its easy to dial in a very surfy reverb that doesnt sound too digital or overwhelm your guitars tone like most pedal reverbs.
It has the ''boing'' down better than any simulation I've heard,too bad they didn't put this in the Boss RV-5.Technology is definately moving forward!
It wont win over the tube reverb die-hards,but did anyone think it would?
I would not hesitate to replace a stand alone reverb unit with this pedal,but I'm no Eric Johnson that hears differences in cables and batterys either.
I'm not blown away with how it sounds after a distortion pedal but i'm not dissapointed either.
It blows away any solid state spring reverb that i've heard,and there were some good ones over the years.
over all,its exactly what i wanted and will have a permanent spot at the end of my pedalboard.
I say BUY IT.

OH..... One niggle- why cant it tail off naturally instead of cut off abruptly when you turn it off? when you have a long tailed surfy reverb going its pretty hard to turn it off without a dramatic,noticable end to the reverb tail.[come to think of it,if you defeat a fender tube reverb unit the same thing happens!]
I think the hardwire addresses this,something to think about.

[Uma Floresta]

Sounds like it's going to be one of the better digital Spring Reverb emu options, for sure.

[Synchro]

Originally Posted by czech-one-2

well it arrived and my initial reaction is it sounds extremely good.
with the mix knob for wet/dry mix and a tone control its easy to dial in a very surfy reverb that doesnt sound too digital or overwhelm your guitars tone like most pedal reverbs.
It has the ''boing'' down better than any simulation I've heard,too bad they didn't put this in the Boss RV-5.Technology is definately moving forward!
It wont win over the tube reverb die-hards,but did anyone think it would?
I would not hesitate to replace a stand alone reverb unit with this pedal,but I'm no Eric Johnson that hears differences in cables and batterys either.
I'm not blown away with how it sounds after a distortion pedal but i'm not dissapointed either.
It blows away any solid state spring reverb that i've heard,and there were some good ones over the years.
over all,its exactly what i wanted and will have a permanent spot at the end of my pedalboard.
I say BUY IT.

OH..... One niggle- why cant it tail off naturally instead of cut off abruptly when you turn it off? when you have a long tailed surfy reverb going its pretty hard to turn it off without a dramatic,noticable end to the reverb tail.[come to think of it,if you defeat a fender tube reverb unit the same thing happens!]
I think the hardwire addresses this,something to think about.

Thanks czech-one-2.

[eddiewagner]

Originally Posted by czech-one-2

I'm not blown away with how it sounds after a distortion pedal but i'm not dissapointed either.
It blows away any solid state spring reverb that i've heard,and there were some good ones over the years.
over all,its exactly what i wanted and will have a permanent spot at the end of my pedalboard.

gracias czech! so i have to place it at the very, very end of my board and use it with the natural sound of my amp to get the best results? i have never owned a reverb pedal before. i wonder if the dwell knob adds a bit of overdrive/mass to the signal. that would be cool.

[guit30]

Thanks Czech,
I don't know why it stops abruptly, maybe because it is digital. I know the Hardwire is true bypass, but it has a trailing switch in the battery compartment that will let the trailing continue, If I eve get mine, I think I will just leave it on all of the time, I have a digital effect on my amp that is real more like a delay, but it is usable, still ,want to hear what this is like, love the old spring sound. Since it is buffered , does it suck any tone when it is turned off ?
Jim
PS- Usuall Boss pedals are not tone suckers, their buffers work good

[czech-one-2]

Originally Posted by eddiewagner

gracias czech! so i have to place it at the very, very end of my board and use it with the natural sound of my amp to get the best results? i have never owned a reverb pedal before. i wonder if the dwell knob adds a bit of overdrive/mass to the signal. that would be cool.

de nada Eddie! I'm not hearing any distortion coming from the FRV-1 at all.the dwell is really just controling the amount of reverb,but even at maximum dwell there is no clipping or distortion.
It might work well in an effects loop,but i've never used effects loops.
I find reverb pedals sound best after any delay pedals,which is usually the last pedal before your amp.
And Guit30, I hooked it up to a true bypass loop and listened with it bypassed in and out of the signal chain,I didnt hear any noticable change in tone.but again I'm not extremely picky about the tone suck thing,and i'm using emg sa's too,so its really not an issue for me.
Your right,this pedal will most likely be on for an entire song,so switching the tails off isnt really a huge problem,just wanted to mention it.

[brownshoe]

Originally Posted by czech-one-2

It might work well in an effects loop

That it does. I have two of these pedals and one is dedicated to my HRDx's effects loop.

[DaBender]

Well, I just ordered mine. My BCB-3 will be loaded with my Boss DM-3, SD-1 with 808 mod and this when run in front of my '64 Fender Concert. It will eliminate hooking up my Alesis Nanoverb, which had a decent enough 'verb, but it sounds like this will be more like a true spring. I had the RV-5 for a while, but didn't really care for it enough to keep.

It's kind of funny how the few reviews so far are all over the map. I do have to wonder how some of the hyper-critical types would do if they weren't shown what they're listening to.

[bluesfordan]

what kind of prices are we seeing for these?

[eddiewagner]

ther german "gitarre & bass"-mag has a review in their last issue. they say it´s just an incredibly great pedal, an instrument by itself, kinda. i can hardly hold out guys......

[DaBender]

Originally Posted by bluesfordan

what kind of prices are we seeing for these?

$129 shipped from the big catalog stores like Sweetwater and American Musical Supply, with most offering a free "rebate" of an 18' Fender California guitar cord, which you must register on the Roland (Boss) site for. Most of these seem to be out of stock until next Tuesday.

I got mine on ebay for $119, no rebate.

[czech-one-2]

[quote=DaBender;1996784]Well, I just ordered mine. My BCB-3 will be loaded with my Boss DM-3, SD-1 with 808 mod and this when run in front of my '64 Fender Concert. It will eliminate hooking up my Alesis Nanoverb, which had a decent enough 'verb, but it sounds like this will be more like a true spring. I had the RV-5 for a while, but didn't really care for it enough to keep.QUOTE]

That sounds like a happening desert island trio of pedals there.
I too used an alesis unit,a micro verb for a few years.great reverbs but nothing spring like or amp like about them.
I think you will like the natural reverb sound of the boss unit.Its not over the top or cathedral like deep, it does one thing and one thing only,it sounds amp like and natural,especially for a pedal.
However, after my experience on another forum,i'm just waiting for the tube purists to slam my opinions and tell me i have a tin ear.

[eddiewagner]

it´s here and it´s great! sounds 100 % like i hoped it would. i will glue it to my board and will play the first gig with it in three hours. it´s the surfbox guys. full dwell and the mixer on 3 o clock, tone 9 o clock: dick dale tone!

[Uma Floresta]

Originally Posted by eddiewagner

it´s here and it´s great! sounds 100 % like i hoped it would. i will glue it to my board and will play the first gig with it in three hours. it´s the surfbox guys. full dwell and the mixer on 3 o clock, tone 9 o clock: dick dale tone!

That's great to hear - any chance of clips?

[DaBender]

I got mine this morning. It does sound pretty good. I was hoping to try it on a gig tonight, but my wife thought it would be better if I declned. :-(

[eddiewagner]

just back from the gig. that pedal is awesome, if you dig that retro-sound. on the first tunes i had it on a bit too much. then i backed off a bit on the dwell and mix and all was cool and still totaly dick-dale-ish. it´s great for slow slide stuff a la sleepwalk. i also kicked it in for some solos and that sounded really cool. great, great pedal. i have a pretty good reverb in my amp, but that is nothing in compare.

[johnnykf]

Just got mine and I'm blown away. I have a Fender Reverb Tank, not an original '63 but one I bought new around 1996. My intention was to get something close without spending lots, since the tank is an extra PITA when setting up.
This pedal is so close I'll probably put the tank in storage for awhile. I would say If you're gigging, or practicing it is more than suffficent. If you are recording on a high dollar tune destined to top the charts, and the producer is very nitpicky, the tank might be just a hair better, but the pedal will do just fine.

[DaBender]

I got to spend a bit more time with mine this afternoon, playing along with some Buddy Guy. It really sounded a lot nicer to me sitting amid some music than just noodling around. I was surprised how low I run the tone to please my ear (I'm usually a 12 o'clock kind of guy), but that's what knobs are for - to find the spot YOU like.

Next week, we'll gig it.

[brownshoe]

Originally Posted by DaBender

I was surprised how low I run the tone to please my ear (I'm usually a 12 o'clock kind of guy), but that's what knobs are for - to find the spot YOU like.

I run the tone knob just at about 8 sometimes. Often at 10 and today at 11 for awhile.

[imsilly]

Still not convinced, especially when you can pick up a used Fender Reverb unit for £150 to £200 or less it seems madness to buy a digital pedal. I just doesn't sound right yet. Something is always missing with these digital reverb pedals. To me they sound a bit like delay pedals that have gone a bit wrong.

[tweedtone]

I've been gigging with it for a couple of weeks now and it works great, haven't felt the need to bring out the Reverb Unit since.

Is it identical? No. Does it sound fine in a live band setting? You betcha.