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imsilly · March 28th, 2009, 09:39 AM

I am appaulingly bad at tuning by ear and recently I have been experimenting with a lot more tunings, which I tend to change very often. I hate wasting my time and getting things out of tune.

So I want a good reliable, accurate and easy to use pedal that can get me going from open G to open E tunings in a few seconds. Tuning up and down with ease in a loud, dark room is what I need.

Specifically something that will let me tune strings up as easily and as fast as down.

Thanks

SackvilleDan · March 28th, 2009, 09:56 AM

Korg Pitch Black. Less than $100 CDN, and quite accurate. You mentioned a loud room - the Pitch Black tunes in silence, so you can't hear what you're doing, but the display is easy to read. Tuning in silence is good for the audience, not good for you, but it's also handy to use it to mute your rig between songs!

The Pitch Black also powers other pedals via a daisy chain.

castpolymer · March 28th, 2009, 10:37 AM

I just got the Boss TU-2 about a week ago. I switch from standard to Open G to tuning down 1/2 - 3/4 a lot. It allows me to do all of this quickly and accurately.

Astro1176 · March 28th, 2009, 04:09 PM

I've used a lot of tuners, PitchBlack from Korg is awesome and pretty cheap. Many tuners - including Boss ones I have used in the past - I have needed to tweak the tuning by ear after using the tuner to get it to sound right. The Korg - in strobe mode - gets the guitar in tune so I don't have to do the after tuner tweaking. Also the display is bright and clear for stage use.

The mute function is useful, and I believe it is true bypass as well. However I wish there was an option for it not to mute while you tune.

Guitar_Ninja · March 28th, 2009, 04:14 PM

Sonic Research Turbo Tuner.

tazzboy · March 28th, 2009, 05:29 PM

Korg pitch black tuner.

partscasteruk · March 28th, 2009, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by castpolymer

I just got the Boss TU-2 about a week ago. I switch from standard to Open G to tuning down 1/2 - 3/4 a lot. It allows me to do all of this quickly and accurately.

+1
Used the TU-2 for my entire career of live performances
Very fast, good bright display, I can check tuning on all 6 strings in a 10 second break between songs, or even between my guitar parts mid-song.

grgryus · March 28th, 2009, 06:40 PM

bought a Korg Pitchblack this week - design classic!

Ben Harmless · March 28th, 2009, 07:02 PM

I've seen enough TU2s on stages in my live sound work to make me want to buy stock in Roland.

...but I like to be different, so I got a Pitchblack. I love it. True bypass too, which is nice, since I don't use any other pedals live, and I keep it on top of my amp, so I don't need buffers.

The guitar sounds in tune when I'm done - and I'm very picky, and usually prefer to tune by ear to a reference pitch. This doesn't work well live though.

The TU2 is a fine pedal as well. I've really got nothing against it.

Tonemonkey · March 28th, 2009, 08:04 PM

Korg PB

jefrs · March 28th, 2009, 08:47 PM

You should learn to tune by ear, it's good pitch training.

Then get a Peterson Stomp2, it's the absolute dog's furry bits.

passingtime · March 28th, 2009, 08:52 PM

Korg Pitch Black.

Jenix · March 28th, 2009, 10:11 PM

i have a tu2 and have been considering selling it for a korg pitchblack

RomanS · March 29th, 2009, 06:15 PM

Pitchblack, no need to look elsewhere...

Hank Nagle · March 29th, 2009, 06:33 PM

I had the Korg floor tuner that preceded the Pitch Black. I don't know if mine was "special", but it was wrong! Everyone that I play with in several different bands uses the Boss floor tuner and I discovered that I was very slightly out of tune with my bandmates. When I tuned to one of their tuners the issue was corrected. Very irritating. And yes, I checked the calibration.

Now I have a Boss and it works great. I think there is a good argument for "tuner brand unity" within a band. It's not the first time I've run into inconsistencies.

11 Gauge · March 29th, 2009, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astro1176

Many tuners - including Boss ones I have used in the past - I have needed to tweak the tuning by ear after using the tuner to get it to sound right. The Korg - in strobe mode - gets the guitar in tune so I don't have to do the after tuner tweaking.

I haven't had the need to replace my ancient Seiko ST-727, but you guys have me intrigued...

...Regarding tweaking by ear, I have a trick that I do that a good tuner will allow you to utilize.

I tune the wounds (or strings 4-6) about 2-3 cents sharp. I then tune the plains (or strings 1-3) either dead on or a cent flat.

It's kind of a variation on the setup that Jerry Donahue uses, and that I imagine many folks did years ago, prior to the Buzz Feiten stuff, compensated saddles, what have you...

But I find that it still works even with well intonated saddles. If you've got a decent strobe display, you should be able to nail those few cents FAST after you've had practice.

Not really relevant, and probably a bit of a digression, but just thought I'd share...

Astro1176 · March 29th, 2009, 07:43 PM

I don't understand how that could possibly work or sound good, have you got any references to the theory behind it?

I've read some stuff about setting up intonation sharp and flat due to uncompensated 3 barrel bridges and tuning accordingly, or tuning flat to allow for finger pressure to bend notes up to pitch, but I don't see how tuning strings sharp will allow you to be in tune with other band members and keyboards etc.

Beerts · March 29th, 2009, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imsilly

recently I have been experimenting with a lot more tunings, which I tend to change very often.

sounds to me like a great excuse to buy a guitar for each tuning...

just kidding

Daddy Elmis · March 29th, 2009, 09:03 PM

Think for $100 US or less the TU2 is the one to get. If you have the dough, the Peterson is the absolute mack daddy bomb. Pays for itself after a few really good intonations on your guitars. I wouldn't part with my Peterson for anything -- it's that good, that easy, and that accurate. Plus, it has presets or user settings for anything you want to do tuning wise.

DavidP · March 29th, 2009, 09:15 PM

I've been using a TU2 for years but recently got a Turbo Tuner Model ST-200. I think it tracks better and tunes easier than the Boss, but the real test will be how the LEDs stand out in outdoor venues (you can't see much on the Boss in outdoor conditions).

Astro1176 · March 29th, 2009, 09:45 PM

Daddy Elmis - I have a Peterson VS-2 - the Pitchblack compares well for accuracy. I wouldn't sell the peterson though.

fenderpeet · March 30th, 2009, 07:46 AM

+1 on the TU-2.

bo · March 30th, 2009, 03:51 PM

I've used a Boss TU-2 for many years and haven't found a reason to replace it. My only gripe is it can be hard to read on an outdoor stage.

Chris Clemens · March 30th, 2009, 04:00 PM

+1!

Verry relieble, rock-sollid, good visability when the sun/lights hit it, very easy to use etc. etc.

Mike Bruce · March 30th, 2009, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bo

I've used a Boss TU-2 for many years and haven't found a reason to replace it. My only gripe is it can be hard to read on an outdoor stage.

I've retro-fitted a couple of TU-2s with the lense from a pair of cheap plastic sunglasses, cut to shape and attached with the two thumbscrews the unit comes with. Works great. Sorry, no pictures, I use a Planet Waves.

Mike Bruce

BadHorsie · March 31st, 2009, 12:41 AM

ModTone Tuner. I was curious about it . It is solidly built. I have no complaints. It is visible in dim light. It works really well and the price was right.

bo · March 31st, 2009, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Bruce

I've retro-fitted a couple of TU-2s with the lense from a pair of cheap plastic sunglasses, cut to shape and attached with the two thumbscrews the unit comes with. Works great. Sorry, no pictures, I use a Planet Waves.

Mike Bruce

Excellent idea! Thanks Mike!

Gilamnstr · April 1st, 2009, 05:26 AM

+1 on the Peterson Strobostomp. I used a TU-2 for a long time and really fought the idea of spending that kind of dough on a tuner, but once I finally bit the bullet and bought the Peterson, I was sold. Absolutely perfect tuning every time, no need to "touch it up" by ear after using the tuner. The "sweetened" preset sounds really good - I haven't looked into the nuts and bolts of how it's different from standard tuning, but it sounds better to my ear. Nice to be able to set the intonation on your guitars with it too.

11 Gauge · April 1st, 2009, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astro1176

I don't understand how that could possibly work or sound good, have you got any references to the theory behind it?

I've read some stuff about setting up intonation sharp and flat due to uncompensated 3 barrel bridges and tuning accordingly, or tuning flat to allow for finger pressure to bend notes up to pitch, but I don't see how tuning strings sharp will allow you to be in tune with other band members and keyboards etc.

Here's the reference. Concentrate on what he says in the final paragraph, regarding tuning a piano.

And Jerry goes on to say that the issue becomes compounded with hybrid/custom gauged string sets, how you attack the strings, and other factors.

I guess that I should have specified that my gauges are almost the inverse of what Jerry uses - he's got really light wound strings - his 6th is a 42, while mine is 48 - 52.

It was as a result of being out of tune with the band and especially recording that got me into the sharp/flat thing. Bear in mind that I'm only talking about a couple of cents at most, unfretted. By the time I'm up to G or G#, it's all typically dead on. And there are no keys in my current gig or recording projects (save a splash here or there), so that might affect things otherwise.

I've also tried methods such as this, which can be a fair compromise if playing with keys and the like. On a Tele with a fairly heavy set of wounds and the old MannMade saddles, I got the following readings on the meter:

E - 5 cents flat
B - 2 cents flat
G - 5 cents flat
D - to pitch
A - 3 cents #
E - 9 cents flat

But playing a G maj. barre chord, I basically get the following:

-6th string (3rd fret) is very flat compared to 4th string (5th fret)
-5th string (5th fret) slightly sharper than 2nd string (3rd fret)
-both 6th and 4th fretted strings sharper than 1st string (3rd fret), especially 4th string
-3rd string 4th fret more or less in tune with fretted 6th string and 1st string, pretty flat compared to others

When retuning to basically a cent # on strings 4-6 and to pitch or not even a cent flat on 1-3, the same G maj. barre is much more in tune, at least on my guitar.

Like I said - we now have the Feiten system, and I think that there are vendors who will carve comp saddles for custom gauges, but the old school "piano" method works pretty well, at least for me. If I went to slinkier wounds like 46 or lighter, I'd probably keep the wounds dead on and go flat a cent on the unwounds.

iowa · April 1st, 2009, 08:30 AM

I have used others TU2's, and owned a Korg DT-10. While they were both OK, I bought a Pitchblack for size reasons.
Once I got it I realized that it also is far more accurate than either of the others.

Jayson · April 1st, 2009, 10:50 AM

I am a huge fan of Digitech Hardwire, and I own the tuner from that series.

http://accessories.musiciansfriend.c...ner?sku=500135

It is bright, and readable- even outdoors, which I have tested. Its also tough, stable, and true bypass. Plus, high voltage operation and an auto bypass if it loses power means that this whole series of pedals just seems less foolproof than others I've tried- I'm purchasing the chorus from this series next.

Try it out, and see if you like it- the whole series appealed to me.

zoppotrump · April 1st, 2009, 10:57 AM

does anybody have experience with korg dt 10 , especially with bad working footswitch ?

zoppotrump
:O)

Mike Bruce · April 7th, 2009, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bo

Excellent idea! Thanks Mike!

No problem. Comes from hanging around folk festivals too much.

Mike Bruce

dalandan · April 7th, 2009, 11:38 AM

buying a pitch black soon, I will let you know how it goes.

umasstele · April 12th, 2009, 08:03 PM

TU-2

franchelB · April 12th, 2009, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank Nagle

I had the Korg floor tuner that preceded the Pitch Black. I don't know if mine was "special", but it was wrong! Everyone that I play with in several different bands uses the Boss floor tuner and I discovered that I was very slightly out of tune with my bandmates. When I tuned to one of their tuners the issue was corrected. Very irritating. And yes, I checked the calibration.

Now I have a Boss and it works great. I think there is a good argument for "tuner brand unity" within a band. It's not the first time I've run into inconsistencies.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoppotrump

does anybody have experience with korg dt 10 , especially with bad working footswitch ?

zoppotrump
:O)

I've had issues with Korg products for awhile that I am scared to try anything that has the Korg name on it!
I use a Planet Waves pedal tuner just because I didn't want to be like everybody else using a Boss TU-2. But then, IMHO, that's what makes the Boss TU-2 the "standard" pedal tuner...

Chito · April 13th, 2009, 07:58 AM

I'm surprised seeing only a couple of posts about the Turbo Tuner ST200. I have the Strobostomp, Pitchblack and the Turbo Tuner. The TT blows the other 2 away. More accurate than the overhyped and unreliable Strobostomp, easy to read even when playing outdoors on a bright day, has a smaller footprint, cheaper than the SS and only a bit more expensive than the Pitchblack. True strobe too. Check it out guys, I have had it for more than 6 months now, best pedal tuner around.

http://www.turbo-tuner.com/

BTW, all three are more accurate than the TU-2 which use to be the standard.

11 Gauge, I have that ST727 too. Those are very good tuners. I use them to intonate my guitars before I got my strobostomp. Also, the Turbo tuner would be perfect for you as it is fully programmable for different tunings and temperaments.

Five¢ · April 13th, 2009, 08:40 AM

Yeah, the Turbo Tuner is superb. My steel playing friend and I both have one, and we've never been more in tune throughout gigs than we are now.

Astro1176 · April 13th, 2009, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 11 Gauge

Here's the reference. Concentrate on what he says in the final paragraph, regarding tuning a piano.

And Jerry goes on to say that the issue becomes compounded with hybrid/custom gauged string sets, how you attack the strings, and other factors.

I guess that I should have specified that my gauges are almost the inverse of what Jerry uses - he's got really light wound strings - his 6th is a 42, while mine is 48 - 52.

It was as a result of being out of tune with the band and especially recording that got me into the sharp/flat thing. Bear in mind that I'm only talking about a couple of cents at most, unfretted. By the time I'm up to G or G#, it's all typically dead on. And there are no keys in my current gig or recording projects (save a splash here or there), so that might affect things otherwise.

I've also tried methods such as this, which can be a fair compromise if playing with keys and the like. On a Tele with a fairly heavy set of wounds and the old MannMade saddles, I got the following readings on the meter:

E - 5 cents flat
B - 2 cents flat
G - 5 cents flat
D - to pitch
A - 3 cents #
E - 9 cents flat

But playing a G maj. barre chord, I basically get the following:

-6th string (3rd fret) is very flat compared to 4th string (5th fret)
-5th string (5th fret) slightly sharper than 2nd string (3rd fret)
-both 6th and 4th fretted strings sharper than 1st string (3rd fret), especially 4th string
-3rd string 4th fret more or less in tune with fretted 6th string and 1st string, pretty flat compared to others

When retuning to basically a cent # on strings 4-6 and to pitch or not even a cent flat on 1-3, the same G maj. barre is much more in tune, at least on my guitar.

Like I said - we now have the Feiten system, and I think that there are vendors who will carve comp saddles for custom gauges, but the old school "piano" method works pretty well, at least for me. If I went to slinkier wounds like 46 or lighter, I'd probably keep the wounds dead on and go flat a cent on the unwounds.

Thanks for the links. I am not totally convinced the piano paralell applies - pianos are unusual instruments due to their vast range of notes, but its very interesting.

Radspin · April 14th, 2009, 12:01 AM

I have a Korg DT-10 and it's been reliable after a few years of moderate use. It's a good tuner. However, the Pitchblack is far superior--its more accurate and, as others have noted, there's no need to manually "touch up" the tuning after you tune with it, whereas with the DT-10 I had to manually tweak the tuning after tuning a guitar with it.

I would think that the Pitchblack is also better for setting the intonation on a guitar. I haven't tried it yet, but I found that the DT-10 wasn't accurate enough for really getting the intonation just right on my Les Paul. It took me hours, literally, of using the DT-10 and then tweaking the saddles by ear until I was satisfied.

March 28th, 2009, 09:39 AM	#1 (permalink)
imsilly Tele-Holic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: UK Age: 29 Posts: 633	Tuner Pedals? I am appaulingly bad at tuning by ear and recently I have been experimenting with a lot more tunings, which I tend to change very often. I hate wasting my time and getting things out of tune. So I want a good reliable, accurate and easy to use pedal that can get me going from open G to open E tunings in a few seconds. Tuning up and down with ease in a loud, dark room is what I need. Specifically something that will let me tune strings up as easily and as fast as down. Thanks Last edited by imsilly; March 28th, 2009 at 11:09 AM.

March 28th, 2009, 09:56 AM	#2 (permalink)
SackvilleDan Tele-Meister Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sackville Posts: 190 2 Photos	Korg Pitch Black. Less than $100 CDN, and quite accurate. You mentioned a loud room - the Pitch Black tunes in silence, so you can't hear what you're doing, but the display is easy to read. Tuning in silence is good for the audience, not good for you, but it's also handy to use it to mute your rig between songs! The Pitch Black also powers other pedals via a daisy chain. __________________ Tele/Strats/Firebird->Huckleberry Fuzz->Pitchblack->Crybaby->Timmy->Analogman TS9 (Silver/808 mods)->Keeley SEM/Ultra DS-1->CE-2->Cool Cat Vibe->Small Stone->Outlaw Supply Big Blue Tremolo/Boost->Ibanez AD-9->Eventide TimeFactor->Marshall 1962 RI w/ KT66s

March 28th, 2009, 04:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
Guitar_Ninja Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Posts: 2,180 7 Photos	Sonic Research Turbo Tuner. __________________ "The wisdom of a fool won't set you free"

March 28th, 2009, 05:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
tazzboy Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2005 Location: Oregon Age: 32 Posts: 4,782 1 Photos	Korg pitch black tuner. __________________

March 28th, 2009, 07:02 PM	#9 (permalink)
Ben Harmless Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany, NY US of A Posts: 4,344 13 Photos	I've seen enough TU2s on stages in my live sound work to make me want to buy stock in Roland. ...but I like to be different, so I got a Pitchblack. I love it. True bypass too, which is nice, since I don't use any other pedals live, and I keep it on top of my amp, so I don't need buffers. The guitar sounds in tune when I'm done - and I'm very picky, and usually prefer to tune by ear to a reference pitch. This doesn't work well live though. The TU2 is a fine pedal as well. I've really got nothing against it. __________________ "I think I'll go for the life of sin, followed by the last-minute, presto-change-o, deathbed repentance." - B. Simpson "...Because we all expect the truth, we must be the best of fools." - Stiff Little Fingers

March 28th, 2009, 10:37 AM	#3 (permalink)
castpolymer Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2008 Location: Oklahoma - Home of the Sooners Age: 38 Posts: 2,155	I just got the Boss TU-2 about a week ago. I switch from standard to Open G to tuning down 1/2 - 3/4 a lot. It allows me to do all of this quickly and accurately.

March 28th, 2009, 04:09 PM	#4 (permalink)
Astro1176 Tele-Holic Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: UK Posts: 733 17 Photos	I've used a lot of tuners, PitchBlack from Korg is awesome and pretty cheap. Many tuners - including Boss ones I have used in the past - I have needed to tweak the tuning by ear after using the tuner to get it to sound right. The Korg - in strobe mode - gets the guitar in tune so I don't have to do the after tuner tweaking. Also the display is bright and clear for stage use. The mute function is useful, and I believe it is true bypass as well. However I wish there was an option for it not to mute while you tune.

March 28th, 2009, 06:40 PM	#8 (permalink)
grgryus TDPRI Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Derbyshire UK Posts: 92	bought a Korg Pitchblack this week - design classic!

March 28th, 2009, 08:04 PM	#10 (permalink)
Tonemonkey Tele-Holic Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Gibraltar !! Age: 43 Posts: 764	Korg PB __________________ It doesn't mean a thing if it doesn't have that twing!

March 28th, 2009, 08:47 PM	#11 (permalink)
jefrs Friend of Leo's Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Newbury, England Age: 54 Posts: 2,127	You should learn to tune by ear, it's good pitch training. Then get a Peterson Stomp2, it's the absolute dog's furry bits. __________________ There's two kinds of people, those that hear the music and those that don't.

March 28th, 2009, 08:52 PM	#12 (permalink)
passingtime Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 185	Korg Pitch Black.

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Jenix Tele-Holic Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Illinois State University Age: 20 Posts: 507	i have a tu2 and have been considering selling it for a korg pitchblack __________________ USA Ovation MIA Standard Telecaster * Vox AC15CC Martin 000C-16RGTE Aura ISP Decimator - MXR Super Comp - Wah - Keeley TS9 86 Pro Co Rat - Volume Pedal (Boss TU-2) - Boss DD6 Some people sing in the shower, I play guitar...

March 29th, 2009, 06:15 PM	#14 (permalink)
RomanS Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Vienna, Austria Age: 37 Posts: 4,115 22 Photos	Pitchblack, no need to look elsewhere... __________________ http://www.myspace.com/romans212 http://www.myspace.com/theneatpickers http://www.thomassoulriverband.com/

March 29th, 2009, 06:33 PM	#15 (permalink)
Hank Nagle TDPRI Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Santa Rosa, CA Posts: 30	I had the Korg floor tuner that preceded the Pitch Black. I don't know if mine was "special", but it was wrong! Everyone that I play with in several different bands uses the Boss floor tuner and I discovered that I was very slightly out of tune with my bandmates. When I tuned to one of their tuners the issue was corrected. Very irritating. And yes, I checked the calibration. Now I have a Boss and it works great. I think there is a good argument for "tuner brand unity" within a band. It's not the first time I've run into inconsistencies.

March 29th, 2009, 07:43 PM	#17 (permalink)
Astro1176 Tele-Holic Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: UK Posts: 733 17 Photos	I don't understand how that could possibly work or sound good, have you got any references to the theory behind it? I've read some stuff about setting up intonation sharp and flat due to uncompensated 3 barrel bridges and tuning accordingly, or tuning flat to allow for finger pressure to bend notes up to pitch, but I don't see how tuning strings sharp will allow you to be in tune with other band members and keyboards etc.

March 29th, 2009, 09:03 PM	#19 (permalink)
Daddy Elmis Tele-Holic Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: USA Posts: 977	Think for $100 US or less the TU2 is the one to get. If you have the dough, the Peterson is the absolute mack daddy bomb. Pays for itself after a few really good intonations on your guitars. I wouldn't part with my Peterson for anything -- it's that good, that easy, and that accurate. Plus, it has presets or user settings for anything you want to do tuning wise.

March 29th, 2009, 09:15 PM	#20 (permalink)
DavidP Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 697	Another alternative... I've been using a TU2 for years but recently got a Turbo Tuner Model ST-200. I think it tracks better and tunes easier than the Boss, but the real test will be how the LEDs stand out in outdoor venues (you can't see much on the Boss in outdoor conditions). __________________ barely in tune and teetering on the brink of oblivion...

March 29th, 2009, 09:45 PM	#21 (permalink)
Astro1176 Tele-Holic Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: UK Posts: 733 17 Photos	Daddy Elmis - I have a Peterson VS-2 - the Pitchblack compares well for accuracy. I wouldn't sell the peterson though.

March 30th, 2009, 07:46 AM	#22 (permalink)
fenderpeet TDPRI Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: hoofddorp Posts: 81	+1 on the TU-2.

March 30th, 2009, 03:51 PM	#23 (permalink)
bo Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 2,276	I've used a Boss TU-2 for many years and haven't found a reason to replace it. My only gripe is it can be hard to read on an outdoor stage. __________________ www.bourbondynasty.com

March 30th, 2009, 04:00 PM	#24 (permalink)
Chris Clemens Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Aalsmeer (West-coast Delta of Holland) Age: 32 Posts: 408 7 Photos	+1! Verry relieble, rock-sollid, good visability when the sun/lights hit it, very easy to use etc. etc. __________________ Hello, can somebody flick the talent switch for me please? www.bloodsweatandkiers.nl www.chrisCclemens.nl

March 31st, 2009, 12:41 AM	#26 (permalink)
BadHorsie Tele-Meister Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Texas, USA Age: 38 Posts: 223 2 Photos	ModTone Tuner. I was curious about it . It is solidly built. I have no complaints. It is visible in dim light. It works really well and the price was right.

April 1st, 2009, 05:26 AM	#28 (permalink)
Gilamnstr Tele-Holic Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Southern CA Age: 47 Posts: 645 6 Photos	+1 on the Peterson Strobostomp. I used a TU-2 for a long time and really fought the idea of spending that kind of dough on a tuner, but once I finally bit the bullet and bought the Peterson, I was sold. Absolutely perfect tuning every time, no need to "touch it up" by ear after using the tuner. The "sweetened" preset sounds really good - I haven't looked into the nuts and bolts of how it's different from standard tuning, but it sounds better to my ear. Nice to be able to set the intonation on your guitars with it too. __________________ Mac

April 1st, 2009, 08:30 AM	#30 (permalink)
iowa Tele-Meister Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: iowa Posts: 244	I have used others TU2's, and owned a Korg DT-10. While they were both OK, I bought a Pitchblack for size reasons. Once I got it I realized that it also is far more accurate than either of the others.

April 1st, 2009, 10:50 AM	#31 (permalink)
Jayson TDPRI Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Age: 17 Posts: 12	I am a huge fan of Digitech Hardwire, and I own the tuner from that series. http://accessories.musiciansfriend.c...ner?sku=500135 It is bright, and readable- even outdoors, which I have tested. Its also tough, stable, and true bypass. Plus, high voltage operation and an auto bypass if it loses power means that this whole series of pedals just seems less foolproof than others I've tried- I'm purchasing the chorus from this series next. Try it out, and see if you like it- the whole series appealed to me. __________________ www.myspace.com/heypoetmusic

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April 1st, 2009, 10:57 AM	#32 (permalink)
zoppotrump Tele-Holic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: nuernberg, germany Posts: 588 34 Photos	does anybody have experience with korg dt 10 , especially with bad working footswitch ? zoppotrump :O) __________________ zoppotrump :O) _______________________ may the twang be with you !

April 7th, 2009, 11:38 AM	#34 (permalink)
dalandan Tele-Meister Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: philippines Posts: 460	buying a pitch black soon, I will let you know how it goes.

April 12th, 2009, 08:03 PM	#35 (permalink)
umasstele Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Central Massachusetts Age: 21 Posts: 187	TU-2

April 13th, 2009, 07:58 AM	#37 (permalink)
Chito Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 149	I'm surprised seeing only a couple of posts about the Turbo Tuner ST200. I have the Strobostomp, Pitchblack and the Turbo Tuner. The TT blows the other 2 away. More accurate than the overhyped and unreliable Strobostomp, easy to read even when playing outdoors on a bright day, has a smaller footprint, cheaper than the SS and only a bit more expensive than the Pitchblack. True strobe too. Check it out guys, I have had it for more than 6 months now, best pedal tuner around. http://www.turbo-tuner.com/ BTW, all three are more accurate than the TU-2 which use to be the standard. 11 Gauge, I have that ST727 too. Those are very good tuners. I use them to intonate my guitars before I got my strobostomp. Also, the Turbo tuner would be perfect for you as it is fully programmable for different tunings and temperaments. __________________ www.mosayk.ca Last edited by Chito; April 13th, 2009 at 10:10 AM.

April 13th, 2009, 08:40 AM	#38 (permalink)
Five¢ NEW MEMBER! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 6	Yeah, the Turbo Tuner is superb. My steel playing friend and I both have one, and we've never been more in tune throughout gigs than we are now.

April 14th, 2009, 12:01 AM	#40 (permalink)
Radspin Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: East Northport, NY Age: 54 Posts: 721	I have a Korg DT-10 and it's been reliable after a few years of moderate use. It's a good tuner. However, the Pitchblack is far superior--its more accurate and, as others have noted, there's no need to manually "touch up" the tuning after you tune with it, whereas with the DT-10 I had to manually tweak the tuning after tuning a guitar with it. I would think that the Pitchblack is also better for setting the intonation on a guitar. I haven't tried it yet, but I found that the DT-10 wasn't accurate enough for really getting the intonation just right on my Les Paul. It took me hours, literally, of using the DT-10 and then tweaking the saddles by ear until I was satisfied.