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Old June 14th, 2008, 10:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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what effect did the Beatles use on this?

What effects pedal was used to get the warbley sound on the guitar solo close to the end of the Beatles song Let It Be? I've heard it on several orther songs as well, but have never had a chance to experiment with different modulation effects. Is it just a straight up envelope filter, or what that gets that sound?

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Old June 14th, 2008, 10:45 AM   #2 (permalink)
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haven't heard that lately, but it might be tape flanging ... they used that a lot. or possibly a Leslie. i'm just guessing here from memory, don't have a copy. maybe someone who does could offer a more accurate assessment.
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Old June 14th, 2008, 10:56 AM   #3 (permalink)
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It's a Leslie. A rotating speaker. If you're trying to sound like that, a Hughes & Kettner Rotosphere is close sounding if you use it with two amps.
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Old June 14th, 2008, 11:03 AM   #4 (permalink)
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really eh? i always thought that was a ring modulator of some description.
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Old June 14th, 2008, 11:08 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Dont think they had those yet.
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Old June 14th, 2008, 12:17 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Gotta be a Leslie.

Not to high-jack the thread, but does anyone know what fuzz pedals they typically used? I always liked the ripping tone McCartney got on "Taxman" as well as the lead sound on "Sgt Pepper."
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I would think there is more going on then just a leslie. It has some sort of modulation szound that sounds to me like more then just the warble of a Leslie. Maybe it's a mixture of a leslie with something else like a flanger or phaser or envelope filter or something.
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A "real" Leslie rotating speaker can definitely sound like that when it's cranked up and your bending strings.
"IF" there is something else on that track it would be actual manual tape flanging. *Record the solo "split" - one track normal into the board and a 2nd through another tape machine. Delay that tape machines output by either weighting down one of the reels (usually a hand on it) or adjusting the tape speed internally. Those two signals are combined together. One will be slightly delayed and slightly flat in pitch.*
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I remember reading years ago that Harrison would run his guitar into Leslie so that would be my guess too.
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Not to high-jack the thread, but does anyone know what fuzz pedals they typically used? I always liked the ripping tone McCartney got on "Taxman" as well as the lead sound on "Sgt Pepper."
I think there was some use of Arbiter Fuzzfaces and Maestro fuzzes along the way, but they probably used a Vox/Sola Sound Tonebender more than anything else.

Some of the really brutal tones were achieved in ways that modern day tone freaks typically avoid, unless it's all about being "retro". John got the "Revolution" 'fuzz' with his Epiphone Casino DI'ed to the board; the trick is that the preamp on the analog console was pushed beyond the limits of good taste. If you've ever tried this sort of thing, it's pretty nasty, not a particularly beautiful tone in and of itself. However, as The Beatles and others have proved, sometimes a truly ratty tone can sit quite well in a mix.
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Not to high-jack the thread, but does anyone know what fuzz pedals they typically used? I always liked the ripping tone McCartney got on "Taxman" as well as the lead sound on "Sgt Pepper."
I think there was some use of Arbiter Fuzzfaces and Maestro fuzzes along the way, but they probably used a Vox/Sola Sound Tonebender more than anything else.

Some of the really brutal tones were achieved in ways that modern day tone freaks typically avoid, unless it's all about being "retro". John got the "Revolution" 'fuzz' with his Epiphone Casino DI'ed to the board; the trick is that the preamp on the analog console was pushed beyond the limits of good taste. If you've ever tried this sort of thing, it's pretty nasty, not a particularly beautiful tone in and of itself. However, as The Beatles and others have proved, sometimes a truly ratty tone can sit quite well in a mix.
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Not a leslie! it is a vibratone! ha ha! I only learned this last week as I just got a vibratone! (it is a fender licensed leslie.. so the other guys are right too)

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getbent,

You're 48 and you've just bought a Vibratone cabinet!!! Are you a weight lifter or do you have tame roadies??

I had a loan of a friend's Vibratone last year and was barely able to lift the thing in and out of my car! It was what convinced me to find a pedal that could do a close approximation of a rotary speaker; I really don't need to put my back out every time I do a gig.

I know that no pedal will be exactly like the real thing but it's a damn sight easier to lift and the punters don't know the difference anyway and wouldn't care even if they did.
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if i had one, i'd hafta drive a forklift to the gig!
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i'm the oddball/idiot. A) I wanted one B) I'm 6'3" and 240 C) It'll mostly hang out in the home studio... I just wanted one... it felt lighter (I had to carry it a city block in the city) than the amp I traded... it may have been the elation...
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Does the uni-vibe pedal simulate a leslie? What pedals have you found that can do a decent job with only one amp to use. I can't afford two much less carrying two amps around to shows all the time!
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getbent,

You're 48 and you've just bought a Vibratone cabinet!!! Are you a weight lifter or do you have tame roadies??

I had a loan of a friend's Vibratone last year and was barely able to lift the thing in and out of my car! It was what convinced me to find a pedal that could do a close approximation of a rotary speaker; I really don't need to put my back out every time I do a gig.

I know that no pedal will be exactly like the real thing but it's a damn sight easier to lift and the punters don't know the difference anyway and wouldn't care even if they did.

It's not really that heavy...it's just bulky since it's so deep compared a regular amp
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Does the uni-vibe pedal simulate a leslie? What pedals have you found that can do a decent job with only one amp to use. I can't afford two much less carrying two amps around to shows all the time!
Destination 'rotation single' by the Option 5 co. http://www.option5-online.com/option5.html It is the closest thing you'll find to a real rotating cab.
A uni-vibe, though a totally cool effect, is really more of a phaser.
The thing that makes the Leslie (or vibratone) completely unique is the resonance of the furniture grade wooden cabinet along with a low powered tube amp and spinning speakers.
"If" you're able to crank up an amp loud enough to get actual speaker distortion and some cabinet resonance ... a uni-vibe, phaser or chorus pedal 'will' start to sound more like an actual rotating speaker. You gotta be 'LOUD' though.
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Also they used tube-amplified consoles as far as I know.
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Not a leslie! it is a vibratone! ha ha! I only learned this last week as I just got a vibratone! (it is a fender licensed leslie.. so the other guys are right too)
+1. The brother nailed it. Incidentally, Hammond-Suzuki are now making one aimed at the guitarist!

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