Aggressive Comp

guit30 · June 10th, 2008, 05:25 PM

What is a good aggressive compressor?
Jim

klasaine · June 10th, 2008, 05:59 PM

AnalogMan comp or any "Orange Squeezer" style comp is my preference for "aggressive compressor".
A.Man makes both a Ross clone and a juicer (also a 2 in 1 unit).

The Keeley comps can get pretty aggressive too depending on how you set it. There are internal trim pots that will affect it's 'aggressiveness', though I believe you can get one that has all the controls on the top of the pedal.

The older MXR dyna comps would squash pretty well too.

guit30 · June 10th, 2008, 09:39 PM

I have used both of those, Analogman's mini bicomp, well, was a pretty good compressor, but not what I would call a squasher, Keeley's 2 knob has incredible tone and does give the needed compression, maybe I should put a boost or overdrive before the comp
Thanks
Jim
PS-looking for something over the top for Southern rock

Gilamnstr · June 11th, 2008, 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guit30

What is a good aggressive compressor?
Jim

Weren't you the one that did the big comparo of all the compressors a little while back?

garytelecastor · June 11th, 2008, 03:48 AM

Guit30-I would buy either the Keeley 4 knob or a Carl Martin.
I happen to own a CM and I love it. It is basically a studio comp in a pedal. Does the job.

guit30 · June 11th, 2008, 03:28 PM

Gil,
Yes,
I did a shoot out betweeen a Keeley and Homebrew CPR, I love comps, wondering if there was some that get a more aggressive type sound than say a Keeley which I think is very musical and just a great sound enhancer
Jim

TB72 · June 11th, 2008, 03:54 PM

If you can find one, the Boss CS1. I got to try one once, and it had the most aggressive squash of any comp I've tried. The CS3 can get pretty squishy too (albeit quite noisy).

Later...

mojoming · June 11th, 2008, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guit30

What is a good aggressive compressor?
Jim

What is an aggressive compressor I ask?

One that provides distortion? Or one with a fast attack?

Gilamnstr · June 11th, 2008, 06:19 PM

The DynaComp can get very squishy. Also, I don't own one, but people who do have said that the Barber Tone Press can be adjusted to squish pretty good too.

guit30 · June 11th, 2008, 07:06 PM

I'm thinking of one that gives you a strong signal change, not transparent
Jim

studio1087 · June 12th, 2008, 12:18 AM

The Marshall ED-1 or a Boss CS3 or a DOD Milkbox (all affordable and all good).

You need an Attack Speed knob and you have to crank it. You need the squish right at the start of every note.

I like the squish when I use a compressor....I have to have the Attack knob.

okies · June 12th, 2008, 02:59 AM

CMATMODS signa comp or Ross clone, both give lots of comp plus a tone knob to restore the treble, Keeley robs treble, you almost need a treble booster with it.

guit30 · June 12th, 2008, 03:22 PM

EHXs Whitefinger sounds pretty incredible, there is a video of Peter Shroud demoing it on EHX website
http://www.music123.com/Electro-Harm...24728.Music123

Click on video here
J

jdfoosh357 · June 13th, 2008, 03:54 AM

i've owned a boss cs-2, boss cs-3, and a keeley. the keeley is by far my favorite and most mild. the cs-2 is a little more squishy, and then the cs-3 is the most squishy......i think brent mason type squash.

guit30 · June 13th, 2008, 08:33 PM

Believe it or not I have tried many boutique comps, but have stayed away from the Boss CS3, have a friend who has a Maxon pro 9 series, loves it, He is a guitar tech for a Nashville sideman.
Jim
-Should I try a Boss or DOD Milk, I used a Keeley 2knob for a month to review, great tonally, missed having to send it back, They sent me a 4 knob, didn't like it, not as strong, brighter, not as squishy as a 2 knob.
Jim

Del Pickup · June 13th, 2008, 10:03 PM

I wouldn't have described the Barber Tone Press as ever likely to provide maximum squish in comparison to other comps. It's a very versatile pedal but in a more subtle manner than other comps I've used.

I have a Marshall ED 1 comp and that does heavy squish but with a lot of noise.

klasaine · June 18th, 2008, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guit30

I'm thinking of one that gives you a strong signal change, not transparent
Jim

I'd forgotten what it was when I originally posted in regard to my A. Man comp but I also tried out a "Diamond" comp that really added a lot of potential distortion to the signal. NOT transparent at all.
http://www.diamondpedals.com/products/compressor.html

guitarzan13 · June 18th, 2008, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guit30

I have used both of those, Analogman's mini bicomp, well, was a pretty good compressor, but not what I would call a squasher, Keeley's 2 knob has incredible tone and does give the needed compression, maybe I should put a boost or overdrive before the comp
Thanks
Jim
PS-looking for something over the top for Southern rock

Keeley says to do this. I did and it made a huge difference. My mian OD is before the comp.

guit30 · June 18th, 2008, 03:21 PM

Thanks for input, The Diamond samples sounded pretty transparent, though good, it is optical, which usually are not that hot, but good quality
J
PS- I was reccommended the Barber by someone as just being plain good

klasaine · June 18th, 2008, 03:35 PM

The Diamond 'can' be uncolored sounding, and I think that that's what's perceived as "most desirable" in a comp.
I was definitely able to get it to distort and be very non-transparent. I'm sure the sound samples are going after the widest potential market.

Silverface · June 19th, 2008, 03:02 AM

Wait - "aggressive compressor"..."I'm thinking of one that gives you a strong signal change, not transparent"

Maybe I'm getting the semantics confused, but "aggressive" and "compressor" to me are opposites in musical terms. A compressor wipes out the attack and aggressiveness fo your right hand. It removes the dynamics. So an "aggressive" one would do a great job of...well, being a right-hand crutch and a generator of weak tone is about all I can come up with.

So are you actually saying you want a compressor that does the best job of removing your attack and dynamics?

I'd risk asking why, but I doubt I even want to know, since that's one of my definitions of bad tone.

Just get any $30 Chinese stompbox, turn the knobs up all the way, and there you go - no attack, no dynamics, one volume level no matter how you play, lots of sustain, with a flatlined average frequency response.

Goal Achieved.

OK, I can't resist - why? Or please explain how I misinterpreted it...because it sounds like the goal is everything I've tried to teach students NOT to do for 30+ years, no matter what style.

guit30 · June 19th, 2008, 03:45 PM

Maybe aggressive is the wrong word, I really like The keeley comp, and several others, just was wondering what others thought did the best job in
dynamic definition, Keeley's idea of putting your Rhythmn OD in front of your comp makes sense
Best
Jim

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garytelecastor Friend of Leo's Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,633 18 Photos	Guit30-I would buy either the Keeley 4 knob or a Carl Martin. I happen to own a CM and I love it. It is basically a studio comp in a pedal. Does the job. __________________ éí 'aaníígÓÓ 'áhoot'é Would you mind holding this bag while we go through the custom shop????? Redd Volkaert is a Jedi Knight at one with the Force!!!

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guit30 Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Abington Age: 55 Posts: 387	Gil, Yes, I did a shoot out betweeen a Keeley and Homebrew CPR, I love comps, wondering if there was some that get a more aggressive type sound than say a Keeley which I think is very musical and just a great sound enhancer Jim __________________ DOD FX80B Compressor Hartman Compressor Jim's Country Reviews www.geocities.com/guit30

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TB72 Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ottawa Canada Posts: 483	If you can find one, the Boss CS1. I got to try one once, and it had the most aggressive squash of any comp I've tried. The CS3 can get pretty squishy too (albeit quite noisy). Later... __________________ Why is easy-listening music so hard to listen to?

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klasaine Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: los angeles, ca Age: 46 Posts: 1,488 11 Photos	AnalogMan comp or any "Orange Squeezer" style comp is my preference for "aggressive compressor". A.Man makes both a Ross clone and a juicer (also a 2 in 1 unit). The Keeley comps can get pretty aggressive too depending on how you set it. There are internal trim pots that will affect it's 'aggressiveness', though I believe you can get one that has all the controls on the top of the pedal. The older MXR dyna comps would squash pretty well too.

June 11th, 2008, 06:19 PM	#9 (permalink)
Gilamnstr Tele-Holic Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Southern CA Age: 46 Posts: 556 6 Photos	The DynaComp can get very squishy. Also, I don't own one, but people who do have said that the Barber Tone Press can be adjusted to squish pretty good too. __________________ Mac

June 11th, 2008, 07:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
guit30 Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Abington Age: 55 Posts: 387	I'm thinking of one that gives you a strong signal change, not transparent Jim __________________ DOD FX80B Compressor Hartman Compressor Jim's Country Reviews www.geocities.com/guit30

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studio1087 Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2003 Location: Near Milwaukee Age: 44 Posts: 3,992 36 Photos	The Marshall ED-1 or a Boss CS3 or a DOD Milkbox (all affordable and all good). You need an Attack Speed knob and you have to crank it. You need the squish right at the start of every note. I like the squish when I use a compressor....I have to have the Attack knob. __________________ JLG Carry On

June 12th, 2008, 02:59 AM	#12 (permalink)
okies TDPRI Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 47	CMATMODS signa comp or Ross clone, both give lots of comp plus a tone knob to restore the treble, Keeley robs treble, you almost need a treble booster with it.

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guit30 Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Abington Age: 55 Posts: 387	EHXs Whitefinger sounds pretty incredible, there is a video of Peter Shroud demoing it on EHX website http://www.music123.com/Electro-Harm...24728.Music123 Click on video here J __________________ DOD FX80B Compressor Hartman Compressor Jim's Country Reviews www.geocities.com/guit30

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jdfoosh357 Tele-Holic Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 566	i've owned a boss cs-2, boss cs-3, and a keeley. the keeley is by far my favorite and most mild. the cs-2 is a little more squishy, and then the cs-3 is the most squishy......i think brent mason type squash.

June 13th, 2008, 08:33 PM	#15 (permalink)
guit30 Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Abington Age: 55 Posts: 387	Believe it or not I have tried many boutique comps, but have stayed away from the Boss CS3, have a friend who has a Maxon pro 9 series, loves it, He is a guitar tech for a Nashville sideman. Jim -Should I try a Boss or DOD Milk, I used a Keeley 2knob for a month to review, great tonally, missed having to send it back, They sent me a 4 knob, didn't like it, not as strong, brighter, not as squishy as a 2 knob. Jim __________________ DOD FX80B Compressor Hartman Compressor Jim's Country Reviews www.geocities.com/guit30

June 13th, 2008, 10:03 PM	#16 (permalink)
Del Pickup Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 612 5 Photos	I wouldn't have described the Barber Tone Press as ever likely to provide maximum squish in comparison to other comps. It's a very versatile pedal but in a more subtle manner than other comps I've used. I have a Marshall ED 1 comp and that does heavy squish but with a lot of noise.

June 18th, 2008, 03:21 PM	#19 (permalink)
guit30 Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Abington Age: 55 Posts: 387	Thanks for input, The Diamond samples sounded pretty transparent, though good, it is optical, which usually are not that hot, but good quality J PS- I was reccommended the Barber by someone as just being plain good __________________ DOD FX80B Compressor Hartman Compressor Jim's Country Reviews www.geocities.com/guit30 Last edited by guit30; June 19th, 2008 at 03:42 PM.

June 18th, 2008, 03:35 PM	#20 (permalink)
klasaine Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: los angeles, ca Age: 46 Posts: 1,488 11 Photos	The Diamond 'can' be uncolored sounding, and I think that that's what's perceived as "most desirable" in a comp. I was definitely able to get it to distort and be very non-transparent. I'm sure the sound samples are going after the widest potential market.

June 19th, 2008, 03:02 AM	#21 (permalink)
Silverface Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hermosa Beach CA Age: 56 Posts: 1,924	Wait - "aggressive compressor"..."I'm thinking of one that gives you a strong signal change, not transparent" Maybe I'm getting the semantics confused, but "aggressive" and "compressor" to me are opposites in musical terms. A compressor wipes out the attack and aggressiveness fo your right hand. It removes the dynamics. So an "aggressive" one would do a great job of...well, being a right-hand crutch and a generator of weak tone is about all I can come up with. So are you actually saying you want a compressor that does the best job of removing your attack and dynamics? I'd risk asking why, but I doubt I even want to know, since that's one of my definitions of bad tone. Just get any $30 Chinese stompbox, turn the knobs up all the way, and there you go - no attack, no dynamics, one volume level no matter how you play, lots of sustain, with a flatlined average frequency response. Goal Achieved. OK, I can't resist - why? Or please explain how I misinterpreted it...because it sounds like the goal is everything I've tried to teach students NOT to do for 30+ years, no matter what style. __________________ “No Chops – Great Tone” ©

June 19th, 2008, 03:45 PM	#22 (permalink)
guit30 Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Abington Age: 55 Posts: 387	Maybe aggressive is the wrong word, I really like The keeley comp, and several others, just was wondering what others thought did the best job in dynamic definition, Keeley's idea of putting your Rhythmn OD in front of your comp makes sense Best Jim __________________ DOD FX80B Compressor Hartman Compressor Jim's Country Reviews www.geocities.com/guit30