Correct order for pedals?

Califiddler · April 7th, 2008, 06:12 PM

I have a Boss BCB-60 pedalboard, which holds 6 pedals. I have the following 6 pedals:

Boss TU-2 Tuner
Seymour Duncan Pickup Boost
Boss CE-2 Chorus
Boss DM-2 Delay
Boss TS-9 Tubescreamer (w/ Keeley mods)
Boss TR-2 Tremolo.

What's the correct order for these effects? I can't run some of them in front of the amp (Traynor YCV50 Blue) and some through the effects loop, because they're all in the same pedalboard chain. So all in front, or all in the effects loop? And what is the correct order, and why?

Thanks!

Jenix · April 7th, 2008, 06:27 PM

There was a post very similiar to this that was active about a month ago. You could get a pretty good idea from the show us your pedal board thread. I've heard your delay should come before your distortions.

Beerts · April 7th, 2008, 07:42 PM

I would go from the tuner - boost - overdrive - trem - chorus - delay

I like my overdrive effects before the delay and chorus because an overdrive acts like an extra preamp stage and putting the delay effects after is like running an effects loop, I think it just colors the sound differently and I find this way much more appealling. I'm sure there are those who would disagree but that's how I would put them, a little trial and error is cool because you never know what sound you might find by a little experimentation! in the end it all comes down to whatever blows your hair back!

rythmpyg · April 7th, 2008, 07:47 PM

try this...

http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~gmarts/fx-order.htm

rythmpyg · April 7th, 2008, 07:56 PM

heres another take, scroll down a little...

http://media.bossus.com/bugonline/how_to.asp?art=order

Beerts · April 7th, 2008, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rythmpyg

try this...

http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~gmarts/fx-order.htm

great link!

franchelB · April 7th, 2008, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Califiddler

I have a Boss BCB-60 pedalboard, which holds 6 pedals. I have the following 6 pedals:

Boss TU-2 Tuner
Seymour Duncan Pickup Boost
Boss CE-2 Chorus
Boss DM-2 Delay
Boss TS-9 Tubescreamer (w/ Keeley mods)
Boss TR-2 Tremolo.

What's the correct order for these effects? I can't run some of them in front of the amp (Traynor YCV50 Blue) and some through the effects loop, because they're all in the same pedalboard chain. So all in front, or all in the effects loop? And what is the correct order, and why?

Thanks!

Personally, I prefer to use the effects loop for the Chorus and Delay. And the BCB 60 does have an effects loop....
But anyway, I'd run it like this:
1. Tuner
2. Pickup Boost
3. Tube Screamer
4. I think you should put the Tremolo first, then the Chorus, but you're welcome switch it around...check either way to see which sound you prefer.
5. Delay

JimiBryant · April 7th, 2008, 08:25 PM

trial and error is the way I go about it!

guit30 · April 7th, 2008, 09:06 PM

Keeley has been saying that He puts his overdrive before comp, I have always heard comp 1st, but he uses 2 comps and suggests the rhytmn chord overdrive go before compressor.
Jim

Lance · April 8th, 2008, 08:26 AM

BTW - the current issue of Guitar Player has a little discussion on this.

Vizcaster · April 8th, 2008, 03:20 PM

Yes, check the current issue of Guitar Player Magazine for a few good concepts on building a pedalboard. Then try for yourself with different pairs of pedals before and after each other. I found wah before distortion worked well, but the other way around does give a nice funky seventies B-movie soundtrack vibe (well, maybe another letter not B). Some old effects are noisier early or late in the chain. I like distortion, then delay, then trem (and maybe I didn't really hear a difference it's just I can't get it out of my head that Fender amps had trem last after gain and reverb). BTW I didn't know there was a Boss TS9, but anyway the Boss pedals are all buffered so it's not like you have to pick one out to go in the beginning of the chain in order to drive the rest of the length of cabling.

hockey_head · April 8th, 2008, 05:13 PM

I think I like tuners not in the signal path, just me tho
I go distotion first,
compressor,
eq then warblers and phasers
reverbs and delays

bcbeak · April 9th, 2008, 09:36 AM

Agree with Vizcaster ... get the current Guitar Player Mag on stands now .. .all about pedal boards, order of effects, etc. Inspired me to rip mine apart and rebuild with better ordering, tighter cable lockdowns, minimal cabling, etc. See photo of my current (country) rig:

http://www.tdpri.com/telephoto/data/...edalboard1.jpg

I challenge anybody to see if they can cram more pedals into a board than I have. Hee Hee. Notice the top row .. I built a raised platform to make it easier to access those forward pedals over the front row. Two items, I want to add: 1. spare pick container 2. LED Clock to track gig times. The Ernie Ball 1/4 -> 1/4 connectors are vintage ... bought them when I was a young lad (15) .. first started playing back in the 70's.

Vizcaster · April 9th, 2008, 06:38 PM

Also consider that if you're using adjustable custom connectors like George L's or Planet Waves pedalboard wiring kits, you don't have to put the pedals in signal-chain order - just whatever fits on the board and feels right for your toe. I notice the pro pedalboard rigs diagrammed in the guitar magazines have the numbers all different from the actual layout of the pedals.

April 7th, 2008, 06:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
Califiddler Tele-Holic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: California Posts: 888	Correct order for pedals? I have a Boss BCB-60 pedalboard, which holds 6 pedals. I have the following 6 pedals: Boss TU-2 Tuner Seymour Duncan Pickup Boost Boss CE-2 Chorus Boss DM-2 Delay Boss TS-9 Tubescreamer (w/ Keeley mods) Boss TR-2 Tremolo. What's the correct order for these effects? I can't run some of them in front of the amp (Traynor YCV50 Blue) and some through the effects loop, because they're all in the same pedalboard chain. So all in front, or all in the effects loop? And what is the correct order, and why? Thanks! __________________ "In the fiddler's house, all are dancers."

April 7th, 2008, 06:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jenix Tele-Meister Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: J town Age: 18 Posts: 276	There was a post very similiar to this that was active about a month ago. You could get a pretty good idea from the show us your pedal board thread. I've heard your delay should come before your distortions. __________________ 2000 MIM tele std. Vox AC15CC USA Ovation Big Baby Taylor - Takamine Classical Some people sing in the shower, I play guitar...

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JimiBryant Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chicago Chicago that toddlin' town Age: 46 Posts: 1,577	trial and error is the way I go about it! __________________ I'm sick and tired of following my dreams, so I'm just gonna ask 'em where they're going and hook up with them later!

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guit30 Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Abington Age: 55 Posts: 324	Keeley has been saying that He puts his overdrive before comp, I have always heard comp 1st, but he uses 2 comps and suggests the rhytmn chord overdrive go before compressor. Jim __________________ Hartman Compressor Eden Analog Nashville Hot Boost Jim's Country Reviews www.geocities.com/guit30

April 8th, 2008, 08:26 AM	#10 (permalink)
Lance Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,157	BTW - the current issue of Guitar Player has a little discussion on this. __________________ Lance "not very good...but I make up for it by playing loud"

April 7th, 2008, 07:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
Beerts TDPRI Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Freeport Illinois Age: 47 Posts: 96	I would go from the tuner - boost - overdrive - trem - chorus - delay I like my overdrive effects before the delay and chorus because an overdrive acts like an extra preamp stage and putting the delay effects after is like running an effects loop, I think it just colors the sound differently and I find this way much more appealling. I'm sure there are those who would disagree but that's how I would put them, a little trial and error is cool because you never know what sound you might find by a little experimentation! in the end it all comes down to whatever blows your hair back!

April 7th, 2008, 07:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
rythmpyg TDPRI Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: wi Age: 49 Posts: 23	try this... http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~gmarts/fx-order.htm

April 7th, 2008, 07:56 PM	#5 (permalink)
rythmpyg TDPRI Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: wi Age: 49 Posts: 23	heres another take, scroll down a little... http://media.bossus.com/bugonline/how_to.asp?art=order

April 8th, 2008, 03:20 PM	#11 (permalink)
Vizcaster Tele-Holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Glen Head, NY Posts: 618	Yes, check the current issue of Guitar Player Magazine for a few good concepts on building a pedalboard. Then try for yourself with different pairs of pedals before and after each other. I found wah before distortion worked well, but the other way around does give a nice funky seventies B-movie soundtrack vibe (well, maybe another letter not B). Some old effects are noisier early or late in the chain. I like distortion, then delay, then trem (and maybe I didn't really hear a difference it's just I can't get it out of my head that Fender amps had trem last after gain and reverb). BTW I didn't know there was a Boss TS9, but anyway the Boss pedals are all buffered so it's not like you have to pick one out to go in the beginning of the chain in order to drive the rest of the length of cabling. __________________ "Why don't you just make 10 louder, and make 10 be the top number, and make that a little louder?"

April 8th, 2008, 05:13 PM	#12 (permalink)
hockey_head Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: shortsville, ny Age: 50 Posts: 287	I think I like tuners not in the signal path, just me tho I go distotion first, compressor, eq then warblers and phasers reverbs and delays

April 9th, 2008, 09:36 AM	#13 (permalink)
bcbeak Tele-Meister Join Date: May 2003 Location: Newburyport, MA Posts: 195 6 Photos	My board Agree with Vizcaster ... get the current Guitar Player Mag on stands now .. .all about pedal boards, order of effects, etc. Inspired me to rip mine apart and rebuild with better ordering, tighter cable lockdowns, minimal cabling, etc. See photo of my current (country) rig: http://www.tdpri.com/telephoto/data/...edalboard1.jpg I challenge anybody to see if they can cram more pedals into a board than I have. Hee Hee. Notice the top row .. I built a raised platform to make it easier to access those forward pedals over the front row. Two items, I want to add: 1. spare pick container 2. LED Clock to track gig times. The Ernie Ball 1/4 -> 1/4 connectors are vintage ... bought them when I was a young lad (15) .. first started playing back in the 70's. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/leomelansonguitar

April 9th, 2008, 06:38 PM	#14 (permalink)
Vizcaster Tele-Holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Glen Head, NY Posts: 618	Also consider that if you're using adjustable custom connectors like George L's or Planet Waves pedalboard wiring kits, you don't have to put the pedals in signal-chain order - just whatever fits on the board and feels right for your toe. I notice the pro pedalboard rigs diagrammed in the guitar magazines have the numbers all different from the actual layout of the pedals. __________________ "Why don't you just make 10 louder, and make 10 be the top number, and make that a little louder?"