MXR Carbon Copy Analog Delay - WOW! - Page 2

TelecasterSam · March 17th, 2008, 04:54 PM

I've been kicking myself since I sold my Boss DM-2 about 10 years ago. I'll definitely check out this Carbon Copy. I've been waiting for something like this to come out. Thanks for the reviews.

mkg · March 17th, 2008, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Gareth John

Sounds good, I want one, are they available in the uk? I've been after an analogue delay for a while now, but they are quite expensive.

GJ, I don't know. Have you tried emailing Dunlop?

Vizcaster · March 18th, 2008, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mkg

Vizcaster, those settings are from a post by MrHuge (Tripps) on TGP. He also mentioned that the pedal is indeed true bypass.

Thanks, I was able to follow your hint and search for posts by Mr. Huge on the gear page forum. I notice however that he did not take the bait and respond to a post that raised the question of whether this particular product was a result of his collaboration with MXR/Dunlop. In fact, there are three "Way Huge" branded products being re-introduced by Dunlop.

The utube clip demonstrating the Carbon Copy was enough for me to order one from Same Day Music. Of course now that it's in the mail, I got a call from the Brooklyn Guitar Center and they have them on the shelf this week!

mkg · March 18th, 2008, 07:47 PM

Vizcaster, it's true, the evidence is circumstantial. He may not have designed the pedal, although he certainly seems to know a lot about it.
I think you'll enjoy your CC, and I dig the Marty DeBergi quote in your sig.

TeleBrew · March 19th, 2008, 11:20 PM

Mine arrived today and I had some fun playing around with it. I can't say that I'm wowed by it, but it's doing the trick so far. I like the modulation control when the regen & delay knobs are turned down, and the mix knob is turned up. Nice chorus sound. I'm also enjoying the results with the delay and regen knobs at 12:00 and the mix at 11:00.

Has anyone else noticed some major feedback (not squealing feedback, not sure how to describe it) with the delay turned all the way down, mix at noon-ish, and the regen turned to 7-8 o'clock? Is that normal for an analog delay? It's my first one, so I have no idea.

ruger9 · March 20th, 2008, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TeleBrew

Has anyone else noticed some major feedback (not squealing feedback, not sure how to describe it) with the delay turned all the way down, mix at noon-ish, and the regen turned to 7-8 o'clock? Is that normal for an analog delay? It's my first one, so I have no idea.

Mine was doing that too, but then stopped, which makes no sense at all. But then my Regen pot acts weird anyway: it goes from a single repeat to like 7. No in-bwteen. Mr. Huge emailed me & said I might have a bad regen pot...(not because of the oscillation, because of the repeats going from 1 to 7)... looking into sending it back for replacement.

TeleBrew · March 20th, 2008, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ruger9

Mine was doing that too, but then stopped, which makes no sense at all. But then my Regen pot acts weird anyway: it goes from a single repeat to like 7. No in-bwteen. Mr. Huge emailed me & said I might have a bad regen pot...(not because of the oscillation, because of the repeats going from 1 to 7)... looking into sending it back for replacement.

I'm going to examine the regen knob performance more closely tonight to see if I encounter the same lack of sensitivity you're having. The feedback doesn't occur all the time in the setting I described above, which is weird.

JoeNeri · March 20th, 2008, 04:25 PM

Finally got to play thru mine in a full band setting last night, and it was as good as I thought. Totally quiet with great range of sounds. Good for both lead and rhythm Definitely better than my old DM-2. Had no trouble dialing in the exact sounds I wanted, and the Regen control worked perfectly, although I must admit I was more concerned with my playing and overall tone than counting repeats :-). My bandmates all commented on the noticeable enhancement of my tone.

bw · March 20th, 2008, 05:04 PM

I'm a sucker for a warm delay, have a Maxon AD80 that I dig.Was having some gas pains for something, maybe this could be a new toy!!!

ruger9 · March 21st, 2008, 12:35 PM

Mr. Huge contacted me, after reading one of my posts, and thinks I have a bad regen pot in my unit. they are replacing it free of charge. How cool is that?

mkg · March 21st, 2008, 02:36 PM

Very cool, glad they're taking care of the problem.
Got mine hooked up with an old Ibanez CSL chorus now, this'll get me much closer to the sound I want when we do Chain Gang.

fraxs · March 22nd, 2008, 09:17 AM

got mine yesterday at GC yesterday. Haven't gotten to play it yet though.

spicolli · March 22nd, 2008, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by fraxs

got mine yesterday at GC yesterday. Haven't gotten to play it yet though.

i played it for about 3 hours last night and its great

mkg · March 22nd, 2008, 03:41 PM

Having some fun today...Strat + Goodsell + Ibanez chorus + Carbon Copy =
Pride in the Name of Love.
Looks like the band finally gets to cover a U2 song.

1charger69 · March 22nd, 2008, 05:00 PM

i love it!! in fact it came just in time to take into the studio!! it was just what i was missing.....that bit of warmth i'll use my boss dd6 and CC equally on gigs

csapo · March 22nd, 2008, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by csapo

...I currently have a Maxon AD999 and while it is expensive and highly touted, my delays on it are distorted. Apparently this is a pretty common side effect with this pedal. I played with the internal trim pots but no luck.

Time to sell the Maxon and pick up the MXR CC....

My CC arrived today.

Going to spend time with it tonight and if all goes well, the AD999 is going up for sale.

ruger9 · March 23rd, 2008, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by csapo

My CC arrived today.

Going to spend time with it tonight and if all goes well, the AD999 is going up for sale.

the CC is NOT as warm or distorted as the AD999. The CC is a great delay, but if you really like the darkness & distorted maxon repeats, the CC won't win that race. I was also hoping to sell my AD999 for the CC, but they are different enough to keep both, IMHO.

TeleBrew · March 23rd, 2008, 11:51 AM

I've been digging mine now that I've had it for a few days. It's my first analog delay, so I can't compare it to the Maxon, Ibanez, etc, but I like it better than the Rocktron Short Timer that the CC replaced. Warmer, more organic sounding, doesn't color the original tone of the guitar. Nice!

Vizcaster · March 24th, 2008, 09:58 PM

Got mine today. Sweet. Longer delay times, more repeats than I have on the "analog" delay function in the DSP section of my amp, and it sounds so much better that I find myself setting the mix a little higher than I used to. Goosed the trim pots on the modulation function a little bit to just where you notice the "me-ow" wow and flutter simulation. Gotta get used to the sparkle green, but it's pretty cool. Very, very versatile. Can't wait to use it more.

TopHatTele · March 26th, 2008, 11:51 AM

I went to a local shop with full intention of walking out with a Carbon Copy. After trying it out for nearly 30 minutes, I left it there. I was expecting to be wowed and it just didn't happen. My old Boss DD5 sounds better. When/if the AquaPuss is reissued, then that may be a different story.

Ray G · March 26th, 2008, 12:02 PM

I've been following this thread since it started and finally broke down and went to GC today and tried a Carbon Copy... Sweet, Sweet Piece! I swore I was only going to "try and not buy" but the Carbon Copy wound up following me home. Definitely a warm sounding delay with cool possibilities. Going to put the CC on my pedal board along side my "cheap but very cool" Dano BLT. I'll still use the BLT for "slap back" and use the CC for anything more. Going to really mess with it later on and while I'm at it I'll A/B it with my original issue DD3.

ruger9 · March 27th, 2008, 05:27 AM

Basically, if you find the digital delays too clean & pristine, and if find the maxons too dark & distoted, the CC is for you.

And the modulation is a very nice add-on.

daveswenson · March 27th, 2008, 09:40 AM

Here's the pdf on how to change R7

http://www.aronnelson.com/gallery/ma...2_itemId=20914

Dave

hagstrom71 · March 27th, 2008, 02:41 PM

I went to GC to try the Carbon Copy today.
The first one must of had the same Regen pot problem where it delayed once until the knob was at all the way up and then had many repeats.

The next one I tried worked correctly and I ended up buying it.
I compared it to an Ibanez AD9 while there and it sounded much better and also had a longer delay time. Granted this was GC and I had to have 2 other Ibanez pedals inline with the AD9, but it was enough of a difference to convince me it to get it.

I own an Echoplex EP3 that sounds incredible but needs constant maintenence so it is more of a recording delay. I used to own a DL4 which sounded ok to me, but was too big and I wasn't into lugging around a power supply or buying 4 "C" batteries.
Overall I think it sounds really good but not mind blowing (what is next to tape delay).
Also I like that it is compact and not the typical pink delay color.

hagstrom71 · March 27th, 2008, 02:44 PM

I forgot to mention.
The only thing I wish was that when the mix knob was all the way up that it would only have the delay signal rather than a mixed signal.
Otherwise, a very cool delay.

Ray G · March 28th, 2008, 06:45 AM

Tried the Carbon Copy along side my old DD3 last night and it basically proved what I was expecting, the CC is warmer and more organic sounding especially with the modulation engaged. For my needs the contest goes to the MXR Carbon Copy. That said though... the DD3 is still a nice pedal and isn't totally sterile sounding as Digital Delays go, it has it's place too.

BTW, I didn't have any problem with the REGEN knob, it worked perfectly. I was using an old Boss adapter for power(the guy at GC said a Boss adapter would work fine) and the power crapped out after a couple minutes and the CC went dead. I was thinking I'd have to take the pedal back but tried it with a 2nd Boss adapter and it worked fine/no problem. That's the 1st time I ever had a Boss adapter go bad.

March 17th, 2008, 04:54 PM	#41 (permalink)
TelecasterSam Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 140	Analog delay I've been kicking myself since I sold my Boss DM-2 about 10 years ago. I'll definitely check out this Carbon Copy. I've been waiting for something like this to come out. Thanks for the reviews.

March 18th, 2008, 07:47 PM	#44 (permalink)
mkg Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kentucky Posts: 157	Vizcaster, it's true, the evidence is circumstantial. He may not have designed the pedal, although he certainly seems to know a lot about it. I think you'll enjoy your CC, and I dig the Marty DeBergi quote in your sig. __________________ The Velvet Bombers Some of my tracks

March 19th, 2008, 11:20 PM	#45 (permalink)
TeleBrew Tele-Holic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Kittredge, Colorado Age: 36 Posts: 777	Mine arrived today and I had some fun playing around with it. I can't say that I'm wowed by it, but it's doing the trick so far. I like the modulation control when the regen & delay knobs are turned down, and the mix knob is turned up. Nice chorus sound. I'm also enjoying the results with the delay and regen knobs at 12:00 and the mix at 11:00. Has anyone else noticed some major feedback (not squealing feedback, not sure how to describe it) with the delay turned all the way down, mix at noon-ish, and the regen turned to 7-8 o'clock? Is that normal for an analog delay? It's my first one, so I have no idea. __________________ "Where do you fit in pthtttpt magazine?" - Pete Townshend

March 20th, 2008, 04:25 PM	#48 (permalink)
JoeNeri TDPRI Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sedona, AZ Age: 60 Posts: 89	Finally got to play thru mine in a full band setting last night, and it was as good as I thought. Totally quiet with great range of sounds. Good for both lead and rhythm Definitely better than my old DM-2. Had no trouble dialing in the exact sounds I wanted, and the Regen control worked perfectly, although I must admit I was more concerned with my playing and overall tone than counting repeats :-). My bandmates all commented on the noticeable enhancement of my tone. __________________ The blues is my business and business is good.

March 21st, 2008, 12:35 PM	#50 (permalink)
ruger9 Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hackettstown, NJ Posts: 1,525	Mr. Huge contacted me, after reading one of my posts, and thinks I have a bad regen pot in my unit. they are replacing it free of charge. How cool is that? __________________ "I've got callouses, from all those nights, spent playin' a Telecaster, 'till my fingers bled Bud Light" - Travis Tritt

March 20th, 2008, 05:04 PM	#49 (permalink)
bw Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Central IL Age: 37 Posts: 156 4 Photos	I'm a sucker for a warm delay, have a Maxon AD80 that I dig.Was having some gas pains for something, maybe this could be a new toy!!!

March 21st, 2008, 02:36 PM	#51 (permalink)
mkg Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kentucky Posts: 157	Very cool, glad they're taking care of the problem. Got mine hooked up with an old Ibanez CSL chorus now, this'll get me much closer to the sound I want when we do Chain Gang. __________________ The Velvet Bombers Some of my tracks

March 22nd, 2008, 09:17 AM	#52 (permalink)
fraxs TDPRI Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Syracuse, NY Age: 30 Posts: 39	got mine yesterday at GC yesterday. Haven't gotten to play it yet though.

March 22nd, 2008, 03:41 PM	#54 (permalink)
mkg Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kentucky Posts: 157	Having some fun today...Strat + Goodsell + Ibanez chorus + Carbon Copy = Pride in the Name of Love. Looks like the band finally gets to cover a U2 song. __________________ The Velvet Bombers Some of my tracks

March 22nd, 2008, 05:00 PM	#55 (permalink)
1charger69 TDPRI Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Latrobe Pa Age: 35 Posts: 96	i love it!! in fact it came just in time to take into the studio!! it was just what i was missing.....that bit of warmth i'll use my boss dd6 and CC equally on gigs

March 23rd, 2008, 11:51 AM	#58 (permalink)
TeleBrew Tele-Holic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Kittredge, Colorado Age: 36 Posts: 777	I've been digging mine now that I've had it for a few days. It's my first analog delay, so I can't compare it to the Maxon, Ibanez, etc, but I like it better than the Rocktron Short Timer that the CC replaced. Warmer, more organic sounding, doesn't color the original tone of the guitar. Nice! __________________ "Where do you fit in pthtttpt magazine?" - Pete Townshend

March 24th, 2008, 09:58 PM	#59 (permalink)
Vizcaster Tele-Holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Glen Head, NY Posts: 532	Got mine today. Sweet. Longer delay times, more repeats than I have on the "analog" delay function in the DSP section of my amp, and it sounds so much better that I find myself setting the mix a little higher than I used to. Goosed the trim pots on the modulation function a little bit to just where you notice the "me-ow" wow and flutter simulation. Gotta get used to the sparkle green, but it's pretty cool. Very, very versatile. Can't wait to use it more. __________________ "Why don't you just make 10 louder, and make 10 be the top number, and make that a little louder?"

March 26th, 2008, 11:51 AM	#60 (permalink)
TopHatTele TDPRI Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Paisley Country Posts: 31	I went to a local shop with full intention of walking out with a Carbon Copy. After trying it out for nearly 30 minutes, I left it there. I was expecting to be wowed and it just didn't happen. My old Boss DD5 sounds better. When/if the AquaPuss is reissued, then that may be a different story.

March 26th, 2008, 12:02 PM	#61 (permalink)
Ray G Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 583	I've been following this thread since it started and finally broke down and went to GC today and tried a Carbon Copy... Sweet, Sweet Piece! I swore I was only going to "try and not buy" but the Carbon Copy wound up following me home. Definitely a warm sounding delay with cool possibilities. Going to put the CC on my pedal board along side my "cheap but very cool" Dano BLT. I'll still use the BLT for "slap back" and use the CC for anything more. Going to really mess with it later on and while I'm at it I'll A/B it with my original issue DD3. __________________ Regards, Ray

March 27th, 2008, 05:27 AM	#62 (permalink)
ruger9 Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hackettstown, NJ Posts: 1,525	Basically, if you find the digital delays too clean & pristine, and if find the maxons too dark & distoted, the CC is for you. And the modulation is a very nice add-on. __________________ "I've got callouses, from all those nights, spent playin' a Telecaster, 'till my fingers bled Bud Light" - Travis Tritt

March 27th, 2008, 09:40 AM	#63 (permalink)
daveswenson TDPRI Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Issaquah, WA Age: 52 Posts: 57	Here's the pdf on how to change R7 http://www.aronnelson.com/gallery/ma...2_itemId=20914 Dave

March 27th, 2008, 02:41 PM	#64 (permalink)
hagstrom71 NEW MEMBER! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 2	I went to GC to try the Carbon Copy today. The first one must of had the same Regen pot problem where it delayed once until the knob was at all the way up and then had many repeats. The next one I tried worked correctly and I ended up buying it. I compared it to an Ibanez AD9 while there and it sounded much better and also had a longer delay time. Granted this was GC and I had to have 2 other Ibanez pedals inline with the AD9, but it was enough of a difference to convince me it to get it. I own an Echoplex EP3 that sounds incredible but needs constant maintenence so it is more of a recording delay. I used to own a DL4 which sounded ok to me, but was too big and I wasn't into lugging around a power supply or buying 4 "C" batteries. Overall I think it sounds really good but not mind blowing (what is next to tape delay). Also I like that it is compact and not the typical pink delay color.

March 27th, 2008, 02:44 PM	#65 (permalink)
hagstrom71 NEW MEMBER! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 2	I forgot to mention. The only thing I wish was that when the mix knob was all the way up that it would only have the delay signal rather than a mixed signal. Otherwise, a very cool delay.