What Overdrive For Tweed Amps?

refin · March 5th, 2008, 02:01 PM

I decided to pull out my old '50s tweeds to gig again---I foolishly sold the best tube overdrive ever for my Bassman (a Nady tube overdrive) years ago.
Whether you are gigging originals or honest
reissues/kits,what are you using for that fat searing boost that's musical and touch sensitive? The tweeds are great for pedals when you find the right one.
Thanks!

Guitarzan · March 5th, 2008, 02:36 PM

I've listened to your clips, you don't need pedals.

Have you ever tried a Blackstone? It's an interesting pedal, I'd like to get my hands on one.

http://www.tdpri.com/forum/stomp-box...sfet-clip.html

Vincent Caster · March 5th, 2008, 02:45 PM

Seems like you kind of answer your question with the wording of your question.

I'd check out a boost pedal. Doesn't color the sound of the amp; fattens up and adds grit.

A few possibilities out there - Bad Bob, Fulltone Fat Boost, Seymour Duncan, Micro amp etc.

Let us know.

PS just went back and caught a few clips, tasty stuff!

tweedtone · March 5th, 2008, 02:50 PM

Lately, I've been playing with a rockabilly trio, using a tweed Deluxe clone and I'm finding a perfect boost/overdrive pedal to be a Tonefactor Copperhead.

refin · March 5th, 2008, 03:30 PM

Thanks everyone for the responses (and kind words)....
Vincent Caster,I would love to be able to find an original Nady like I had before....I keep looking!

Beerts · March 5th, 2008, 03:37 PM

my ancient Ampeg Gemini 1 loves the FullDrive 2 from Fulltone, it's versatile and just a fun pedal to push old tubes with.

kp8 · March 5th, 2008, 03:41 PM

I would imagine that with a tweed a good boost would be enough. I would try a gritty boost like the Bad Bob.

morroben · March 5th, 2008, 03:45 PM

I use a ZVex Super Duper 2in1 into my 5E3...sounds incredible.

graphs · March 5th, 2008, 03:47 PM

i like the Xotic AC Booster.

klasher · March 5th, 2008, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by refin

Thanks everyone for the responses (and kind words)....
Vincent Caster,I would love to be able to find an original Nady like I had before....I keep looking!

I've heard it said that the Tonebone Classic tube overdrive/dist pedal is very similar to the old Nady distortion pedals that you're talking about. Not sure if that's accurate, but you can always order one from Musician's Friend and return it if it doesn't do it for you. All you'd lose is the shipping costs.

Larry F · March 5th, 2008, 09:24 PM

I use a Blackstone into a Tonebone Classic. I get clean tones that push the edge, as well as an incredible palette of OD sounds. The Blackstone is very touch sensitive. I also found that experimenting with 12-AX7s in the Tonebone is fun. And don't forget a BBE Sonic Stomp.

refin · March 5th, 2008, 09:49 PM

Wow,thanks everyone.......
one thing I like about the old tweeds is the "spongy" feel from the primitive circuitry.For the Deluxe and Tremolux,I can play them as is.The Pro and Bassman need a little help on the softer gigs.

ole6string · March 5th, 2008, 10:03 PM

I have a Tone Bone Classic as well which I like alot. Another pedal I like alot is the Digitech Bad Monkey, sounds great and cheap, my 2 favorite combinations.

Big Lug · March 5th, 2008, 10:39 PM

I had an opportunity to play a Li'l Dawg Champster Special--15 watts with a 12" speaker--for awhile. I found overdrive pedals muddied up the sound too much for my liking and used my Bad Bob booster which sounded very nice. Demoed a Victoria 5E3 and found the same thing. I walked away from those experiences thinking if I were to ever get a Tweed amp I would use a boost pedal to get the searing lead sound.

Teddy Salad · March 5th, 2008, 10:42 PM

I use a V2 OCD with my Vicky Bandmaster, and so far it's the only OD that doesn't compromise the touch sensitivity I love so much. That you can get into Distortion territory is also a plus.

T.S.

Tulsa · March 6th, 2008, 06:28 PM

I am currently listening to your music. Very impressive. It sounds great. Some very good, smooth playing going on right now....

JimiBryant · March 6th, 2008, 07:04 PM

Chandler Real Tube or Crowther Hotcake!

Doc · March 6th, 2008, 10:58 PM

Seymour Duncan Twin Tube. See sig for other ideas.

mad dog · March 7th, 2008, 05:47 PM

I like two clean boosts together, always a Burris Boostier first, next varies. Usually a Catalinbread Super Chile Picosa. Sometimes use the Catalinbread Semaphore trem pedal in that second position, on but with trem off. (This pedal has a real useful volume knob.) With a tweed type amp, where the best kind of drive comes from the power tubes, clean boost is as far as I'd go.

meyekel · March 7th, 2008, 07:36 PM

+1 on the OCD into my Mission 5E3.

blues · March 8th, 2008, 05:49 AM

When I cant play my bassman cranked up I use a pedal. I mostly leave it on all the time. Im a lovepedal fan. The woodrow has a tweed type sound and cleans up well by useing your volume control. I found I like the purple plexi or a blues face ( cot 50 variation) for myself. They lean towards a marshall plexi like pedal that cleans up well also. They can turn your bassman into a monster amp and still have that touch sensitivity, and ride your volume control on your guitar. That will take you from clean to mean. The clean sounds are nice. They run close to the bassman clean tones. Think of them as working like an amp. Plus you can play around with your bassmans inputs and have a few more tone options.

randysmojo · March 8th, 2008, 04:12 PM

If you can afford them(I can't), the Durham Electronics Sex Drive or if that isn't enough drive, the Mucho Boosto. Great sound without coloring.

http://www.durhamelectronics.com/

andrenighthound · March 9th, 2008, 10:42 PM

i'm using a lil dawg champster special, and my buddy is sending me his LTD, being that the LTD is a transparent style pedal, i hope it will give me just enough extra whoomp, without killing my original tone, for that extra cut through and boost for solos.

anybody have experience with the champster and an LTD?

hiero · September 16th, 2008, 10:59 AM

Hey Refin!

...cool sounds... very soulful. Actually another poster was right you don't need to muddy up your clean, airy sound as is rather refreshing!

I have no specific suggestions other than I was looking a Tweeds in detail recently and some pedals that I came across that seem to work well in providing that tone are:

AMT Tweed Sound:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oBSyA0DWk4

http://www.amtelectronicseurope.com/...p/tweed-sound/

And a rather unknown pedal I picked up cheaply on ebay which is in same vein: Proel DS10.

http://www.tonefrenzy.com/sound_file...distortion.mp3

http://www.4shared.com/file/63214681...roel_ds10.html

http://filters.muziq.be/model/proel/ds10

The latter is not what you would expect a Distortion to sound like, inasmuch as it is articulate and bright - akin the the Fender FBM1 but not muffled! Not easy to find though... One great accident, I have found that with my Cornford (3x12AX7 and 2xEL34 V30) it gives it a very good representation of a Deluxe Reverb just on the edge.

Good luck

59TweedVibrolux · September 16th, 2008, 11:30 AM

Dod Gray Box Overdrive 250 pre amp

Pete Cornish - SS-2

But generally just the " Hillbilly Channel Switcher " .......My guitars Vol Knob
Turn up to O/D - Turn down to clean it up ...straight jacked into a Tweed

TelZilla · September 16th, 2008, 12:00 PM

Bad Bob, or build one of these:

Jack Orman Mini-Booster, which is what the Bad Bob is based on...

refin · September 16th, 2008, 12:07 PM

Wow,thanks everyone for your input,and nice words.
All my recordings (except for a few) on Soundclick are with a Johnson J-Station direct inject.
Lately I've picked up a Blue Tube and a BBE Green Screamer,haven't tested them with the Bassman yet.They sound pretty decent otherwise with the smaller tweeds.

March 5th, 2008, 02:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
refin Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Florida Panhandle Age: 52 Posts: 1,985	What Overdrive For Tweed Amps? I decided to pull out my old '50s tweeds to gig again---I foolishly sold the best tube overdrive ever for my Bassman (a Nady tube overdrive) years ago. Whether you are gigging originals or honest reissues/kits,what are you using for that fat searing boost that's musical and touch sensitive? The tweeds are great for pedals when you find the right one. Thanks! __________________ "For You,Lord,are good,and ready to forgive,and abundant in mercy to all those who call upon You." Ps. 86:5 http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/refin_music.htm MASTER VOLUME? WHAT'S A MASTER VOLUME?

March 5th, 2008, 02:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
Guitarzan Tele-Holic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hotlanta, GA Posts: 896	I've listened to your clips, you don't need pedals. Have you ever tried a Blackstone? It's an interesting pedal, I'd like to get my hands on one. http://www.tdpri.com/forum/stomp-box...sfet-clip.html __________________ Set an eye on 'em Amos. Make it count, son.

March 5th, 2008, 02:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
Vincent Caster Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Peekskill, New York Posts: 624 6 Photos	! Seems like you kind of answer your question with the wording of your question. I'd check out a boost pedal. Doesn't color the sound of the amp; fattens up and adds grit. A few possibilities out there - Bad Bob, Fulltone Fat Boost, Seymour Duncan, Micro amp etc. Let us know. PS just went back and caught a few clips, tasty stuff! __________________ "Froggy went a courtin', he did ride...C...c...crambone!" Last edited by Vincent Caster; March 5th, 2008 at 03:50 PM.

March 5th, 2008, 03:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
refin Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Florida Panhandle Age: 52 Posts: 1,985	Thanks everyone for the responses (and kind words).... Vincent Caster,I would love to be able to find an original Nady like I had before....I keep looking! __________________ "For You,Lord,are good,and ready to forgive,and abundant in mercy to all those who call upon You." Ps. 86:5 http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/refin_music.htm MASTER VOLUME? WHAT'S A MASTER VOLUME?

March 5th, 2008, 09:24 PM	#11 (permalink)
Larry F Friend of Leo's Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Iowa City, IA Age: 55 Posts: 2,530	I use a Blackstone into a Tonebone Classic. I get clean tones that push the edge, as well as an incredible palette of OD sounds. The Blackstone is very touch sensitive. I also found that experimenting with 12-AX7s in the Tonebone is fun. And don't forget a BBE Sonic Stomp. __________________ larry

March 5th, 2008, 02:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
tweedtone Tele-Holic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Tampa Bay, FL Age: 42 Posts: 679	Lately, I've been playing with a rockabilly trio, using a tweed Deluxe clone and I'm finding a perfect boost/overdrive pedal to be a Tonefactor Copperhead.

March 5th, 2008, 03:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
Beerts Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Freeport Illinois Age: 48 Posts: 110	my ancient Ampeg Gemini 1 loves the FullDrive 2 from Fulltone, it's versatile and just a fun pedal to push old tubes with.

March 5th, 2008, 03:41 PM	#7 (permalink)
kp8 Friend of Leo's Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Charlottesville, VA Posts: 2,801	I would imagine that with a tweed a good boost would be enough. I would try a gritty boost like the Bad Bob.

March 5th, 2008, 03:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
morroben Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: california Age: 32 Posts: 1,861 18 Photos	I use a ZVex Super Duper 2in1 into my 5E3...sounds incredible.

March 5th, 2008, 03:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
graphs Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,062	i like the Xotic AC Booster.

March 5th, 2008, 09:49 PM	#12 (permalink)
refin Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Florida Panhandle Age: 52 Posts: 1,985	Wow,thanks everyone....... one thing I like about the old tweeds is the "spongy" feel from the primitive circuitry.For the Deluxe and Tremolux,I can play them as is.The Pro and Bassman need a little help on the softer gigs. __________________ "For You,Lord,are good,and ready to forgive,and abundant in mercy to all those who call upon You." Ps. 86:5 http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/refin_music.htm MASTER VOLUME? WHAT'S A MASTER VOLUME?

March 5th, 2008, 10:03 PM	#13 (permalink)
ole6string Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Williamsport, PA Age: 39 Posts: 210	I have a Tone Bone Classic as well which I like alot. Another pedal I like alot is the Digitech Bad Monkey, sounds great and cheap, my 2 favorite combinations. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/rodchubb http://www.rodchubb.com

March 5th, 2008, 10:39 PM	#14 (permalink)
Big Lug Tele-Holic Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Lower Mainland, the Great White North Posts: 617	I had an opportunity to play a Li'l Dawg Champster Special--15 watts with a 12" speaker--for awhile. I found overdrive pedals muddied up the sound too much for my liking and used my Bad Bob booster which sounded very nice. Demoed a Victoria 5E3 and found the same thing. I walked away from those experiences thinking if I were to ever get a Tweed amp I would use a boost pedal to get the searing lead sound. __________________ "Set my compass North I've got winter in my blood." Robbie Robertson

March 5th, 2008, 10:42 PM	#15 (permalink)
Teddy Salad Tele-Meister Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: LV-426 Posts: 190 7 Photos	I use a V2 OCD with my Vicky Bandmaster, and so far it's the only OD that doesn't compromise the touch sensitivity I love so much. That you can get into Distortion territory is also a plus. T.S. __________________ Non-Linear, Closed-Loop, Spirals everywhere in our Universe.

March 6th, 2008, 06:28 PM	#16 (permalink)
Tulsa TDPRI Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 44	I am currently listening to your music. Very impressive. It sounds great. Some very good, smooth playing going on right now....

March 6th, 2008, 10:58 PM	#18 (permalink)
Doc Tele-Holic Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: South Dakota Posts: 968	Seymour Duncan Twin Tube. See sig for other ideas. __________________ Guitars: Teles, LP, others. Amps: El Diablo, Richter 5E3, 5E3 Head, Traynor Bass Master II, Epi Jr Head, Gretsch/Supro, 60's Univox and others. Current Board-Guitar>Tuner>Java Boost> Huckleberry>Fuzz Head>Top Fuel>SFX-03> Keeley Comp>Clone Chorus>FL3> Amp

March 6th, 2008, 07:04 PM	#17 (permalink)
JimiBryant Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chicago Chicago that toddlin' town Age: 46 Posts: 1,842	Chandler Real Tube or Crowther Hotcake! __________________ *we all shine on, like the moon and the stars and the sun.* Last edited by JimiBryant; September 16th, 2008 at 11:07 AM.

March 7th, 2008, 05:47 PM	#19 (permalink)
mad dog Tele-Holic Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 784	I like two clean boosts together, always a Burris Boostier first, next varies. Usually a Catalinbread Super Chile Picosa. Sometimes use the Catalinbread Semaphore trem pedal in that second position, on but with trem off. (This pedal has a real useful volume knob.) With a tweed type amp, where the best kind of drive comes from the power tubes, clean boost is as far as I'd go.

March 7th, 2008, 07:36 PM	#20 (permalink)
meyekel Tele-Meister Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 204	+1 on the OCD into my Mission 5E3.

March 8th, 2008, 05:49 AM	#21 (permalink)
blues Tele-Meister Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 146	When I cant play my bassman cranked up I use a pedal. I mostly leave it on all the time. Im a lovepedal fan. The woodrow has a tweed type sound and cleans up well by useing your volume control. I found I like the purple plexi or a blues face ( cot 50 variation) for myself. They lean towards a marshall plexi like pedal that cleans up well also. They can turn your bassman into a monster amp and still have that touch sensitivity, and ride your volume control on your guitar. That will take you from clean to mean. The clean sounds are nice. They run close to the bassman clean tones. Think of them as working like an amp. Plus you can play around with your bassmans inputs and have a few more tone options. Last edited by blues; March 8th, 2008 at 06:00 AM. Reason: *

March 8th, 2008, 04:12 PM	#22 (permalink)
randysmojo Tele-Meister Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boerne, TX Age: 33 Posts: 391	If you can afford them(I can't), the Durham Electronics Sex Drive or if that isn't enough drive, the Mucho Boosto. Great sound without coloring. http://www.durhamelectronics.com/

March 9th, 2008, 10:42 PM	#23 (permalink)
andrenighthound Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bronx NY Age: 33 Posts: 236	i'm using a lil dawg champster special, and my buddy is sending me his LTD, being that the LTD is a transparent style pedal, i hope it will give me just enough extra whoomp, without killing my original tone, for that extra cut through and boost for solos. anybody have experience with the champster and an LTD? __________________ "Blues in a doggy bag, is what I got to eat!" www.andreandthenighthounds.com

September 16th, 2008, 10:59 AM	#24 (permalink)
hiero TDPRI Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Surrey UK Posts: 21	Hey Refin! ...cool sounds... very soulful. Actually another poster was right you don't need to muddy up your clean, airy sound as is rather refreshing! I have no specific suggestions other than I was looking a Tweeds in detail recently and some pedals that I came across that seem to work well in providing that tone are: AMT Tweed Sound: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oBSyA0DWk4 http://www.amtelectronicseurope.com/...p/tweed-sound/ And a rather unknown pedal I picked up cheaply on ebay which is in same vein: Proel DS10. http://www.tonefrenzy.com/sound_file...distortion.mp3 http://www.4shared.com/file/63214681...roel_ds10.html http://filters.muziq.be/model/proel/ds10 The latter is not what you would expect a Distortion to sound like, inasmuch as it is articulate and bright - akin the the Fender FBM1 but not muffled! Not easy to find though... One great accident, I have found that with my Cornford (3x12AX7 and 2xEL34 V30) it gives it a very good representation of a Deluxe Reverb just on the edge. Good luck

September 16th, 2008, 11:30 AM	#25 (permalink)
59TweedVibrolux Tele-Meister Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 293	Dod Gray Box Overdrive 250 pre amp Pete Cornish - SS-2 But generally just the " Hillbilly Channel Switcher " .......My guitars Vol Knob Turn up to O/D - Turn down to clean it up ...straight jacked into a Tweed

September 16th, 2008, 12:00 PM	#26 (permalink)
TelZilla Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cleveburg, USA Age: 38 Posts: 1,968 6 Photos	Bad Bob, or build one of these: Jack Orman Mini-Booster, which is what the Bad Bob is based on... __________________ Thanks,Nick Nec Aspera Terrent

September 16th, 2008, 12:07 PM	#27 (permalink)
refin Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Florida Panhandle Age: 52 Posts: 1,985	Wow,thanks everyone for your input,and nice words. All my recordings (except for a few) on Soundclick are with a Johnson J-Station direct inject. Lately I've picked up a Blue Tube and a BBE Green Screamer,haven't tested them with the Bassman yet.They sound pretty decent otherwise with the smaller tweeds. __________________ "For You,Lord,are good,and ready to forgive,and abundant in mercy to all those who call upon You." Ps. 86:5 http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/refin_music.htm MASTER VOLUME? WHAT'S A MASTER VOLUME?