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Old April 18th, 2012, 05:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Boot Hill Champ with Switchable NFB


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Old April 18th, 2012, 06:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I am really liking your blue board stock
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Old April 19th, 2012, 10:56 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks. The blue is even more vivid than seen here. Orange and Blue are Florida Gator colors. That's why I used the Orange Drop Caps.

The 25uF bypass cap will be turned on or off by the The NFB switch.
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Old April 19th, 2012, 02:07 PM   #4 (permalink)
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A dpdt switch or a pot for feedback and a switch on it for the bypass?
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Old April 19th, 2012, 03:29 PM   #5 (permalink)
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dpdt micro switch 6mm (approx 1/4 inch hole) is the plan.
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Old April 19th, 2012, 03:41 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I was going to suggest a SPST switch in parallel with the bottom leg of the NFB voltage divider (to short the resistor).
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Old April 19th, 2012, 03:57 PM   #7 (permalink)
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tubeswell,

Could that also take the bypass capacitor out of the circuit?
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Are you guys saying, you could possibly install a pot for variable NFB resistance? Just pull the resistor and wire the leads to a pot instead? Is this similar to the presence knob on some amps? Thx.
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Old April 20th, 2012, 01:30 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Could that also take the bypass capacitor out of the circuit?
Switch position shown in this schematic. It merely shorts the resistor, i.e.: it doesn't break the circuit.



Would work the same way for shorting out the bottom leg of NFB on the driver stage of a cathodyne inverter (like a princeton reverb)
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Are you guys saying, you could possibly install a pot for variable NFB resistance? Just pull the resistor and wire the leads to a pot instead? Is this similar to the presence knob on some amps? Thx.
Kinda. A presence control is typically just a variable frequency pot in an NFB circuit, that 'boosts' treble frequencies (by cutting the gain of selected mid-treble frequencies fed-back through the NFB loop). (But you can have this kind of control in local feedback loops). If you took away the pot's bypass cap, you would have just a plain old NFB blend/gain control.
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Like the big ol' hole in the circuit board. I drilled mine for a Weber transformer. It misses the turret for the limiter resistor. Turns out Weber transformers use different centers than Boot Hill...

It's the Hackworth / Muchxs Champ. "Muchworth" sounds arrogant. I like "Much Hack" better.

Y'all are overthinking the NFB thing. That's the "danger" of simple little amps. Make everything adjustable and switchable, it isn't a simple little amp anymore.

There is a short list of rules in a stoic engineering philosophy. First rule is "Parts left out" which means leave out anything you can omit. Find a killer tone and hardwire it.

Somewhere on the list is "Anything adjustable can be mis-adjusted". That means there may be settings that are cool by themselves that sound like crap in conjunction with other settings.

Next in our slide down a slippery slope is a tone control. Then a full tone stack. Then a master volume...
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Old April 20th, 2012, 06:03 PM   #12 (permalink)
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.....change the pre-am tubes etc. etc......that's s very true muchxs. I've been playing around with hackworths GA-5, while it's interesting to hear what happens when you do this and that. Ultimately it's just a matter of how much volume and clean/overdrive levels you want at the time and being able to dial it in, that is what I find is cool
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 07:45 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 08:00 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Y'all are overthinking the NFB thing. That's the "danger" of simple little amps. Make everything adjustable and switchable, it isn't a simple little amp anymore.
As I sit here looking sheepishly.




Aww heck, I can't help myself, got a new idea on switching around a classic preamp that I need to post. Will end up with more switches than resistors yet.
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