Looking for feedback...Tweed 5F1 with 10" Speaker

[keithb7]

Hi, I am looking to hear from anyone who has a Fender 5F1 Champ circuit with a 10" speaker.
Do you have any sound clips of it? Any You Tube videos featuring it? I am thinking this will be my next build.
I have a 68 SFVC with an 8" Weber 8A125-0, and 5E3 Kit I built using an original Jensen C12N speaker.
Probably will go with a Boot Hill amp 5F1 kit, and a Memphis Amps custom Champ cab built for a 10" speaker.

I am thinking I'd like something with a 10", plus I love the tweed sound. Any comments on the
sound versus the 8" speaker. Also on a Weber speaker you'd recommend. Appreciated!

[Mat]

Hi,

I built one of these with an oversize mojo cab and a 10" Jensen Ceramic speaker. Much fuller soudning than my 57 Champ with an 8" speaker - big an d raunchy.

In hindsight could I suggest considering a 5F2A circuit (Princeton). A bit more flexible sonically and you can always bypass the tonestack to get the essence of a 5F1 circuit if you wish.

Sorry no sound clips I can pass on but good luck it's a fun project.

[muchxs]

I build 'em both ways. Three ways, now. Three ways plus variants...

The stock sized cabinet is cool with an 8" speaker. It's portable and it won't blow your head off as a home or bedroom amp.

A 6"x9" speaker fits in the stock ('50s proportions) cabinet. I seem to be the only one who thinks it's a good idea.

I build a larger cabinet for a 10" speaker. A modern 10" makes it a loud amp. There's not a big difference between a tweed Champ through a 10" and something like a Princeton or a tweed Deluxe.

I was out of tens recently so I built a larger cabinet for a 12". Couple larger cabinets, actually.

A 10" is as big as you need to go with that amp.

Mojo sells the same cabinet for either an 8" or a 10" speaker. It's larger than a stock '50s Champ but smaller than the one I build. If I thought mine should be smaller I'd build it smaller.

[fezz parka]

You're not the only one. I buy as many 6x9 3.2ohm alnicos as I can find.

[t-luxe]

http://www.mergili.com
Last year this guy offered a raw tweed champ cab w/10" baffle for $130 shipped. Dunno if its still available but I housed my Triode Champ kit build in it with a Weber Sig10a. Its slightly bigger than the stock cab, and I still had to remove the speaker magnet cover to clear the trannys. Also, no hardware was included but about $20 took care of the handle, a few screws and washers, and a can of Minwax honey pine poly.

[keithb7]

Thanks guys. I have been getting a few comments about the 5F2-A circuit with 10" instead of the 5F1 with a 10" speaker. That does sound appealing to me. A tone tone stack. I have been looking around for a kit for a 5F2-A. Looks like my kit options are Weber or Allen. Hmm....

[muchxs]

Originally Posted by keithb7

Thanks guys. I have been getting a few comments about the 5F2-A circuit with 10" instead of the 5F1 with a 10" speaker. That does sound appealing to me. A tone tone stack. I have been looking around for a kit for a 5F2-A. Looks like my kit options are Weber or Allen. Hmm....

If you build a 5F2 you gotta use a 12".

Seriously, a 5F2 cabinet is almost as large as a tweed Deluxe. That says, "big speaker" to me.

Vintage 10"s seem to be rare. 8"s are relatively common and inexpensive, 12"s are relatively common and inexpensive. I mention this because there are a few "under the radar" vintage 12"s that can be had cheap. They're cheap because you'd probably blow them in a larger amp. They'll last forever in a tweed Champ or Princeton.

[tweeddeluxe]

Originally Posted by keithb7

Thanks guys. I have been getting a few comments about the 5F2-A circuit with 10" instead of the 5F1 with a 10" speaker. That does sound appealing to me. A tone tone stack. I have been looking around for a kit for a 5F2-A. Looks like my kit options are Weber or Allen. Hmm....

I went this route, 5F2-A, and I'm very pleased with the result. I built the amp in a tweed Pro Jr cabinet using a PJ power tranny and Allen amps OT. I tried several 10" speakers--the stock blue alnico, Weber ceramic blue pup, Jensen RI P10r, and later model Fender ceramic PJ speaker. None of these really turned my crank; louder and flabbier than I wanted.

Someone in this forum, I think, suggested that the larger Princeton cab with 8" speaker was the secret to its magic so I tried a Weber signature 8" alnico with homemade mounting ring adapter. After a few hours it sounded pretty darn good. Not overly loud and tamed the bass flub. Breakup dials in fairly early but never gets harsh or buzzy. Handles both hum and sing pups great.

Tom

[tubeswell]

I've built SE amps with 10" and 12" speakers. I think a 5F2A with no NFB loop sounds great dimed with a 15W 12" alnico magnet speaker (in this case an old Goodmans).

http://music-electronics-forum.com/a...ay-heaven-.mp3

But I also like a SE amp with a 10" greenback (G10)

http://www.nzguitars.com/forum/downl...le.php?id=8258