Hey you get offa my cloud...

teledude66 · July 12th, 2007, 01:46 PM

I made some diffusors, I think some may call them clouds, what ya'll think about them? Pegboard and cloth from Wally World....

teledude66 · July 13th, 2007, 11:23 AM

I guess no one got my reference to "clouds"...

StuH · July 14th, 2007, 05:06 AM

Very nice.

Do you have gyprock walls? I've read that gyprock has a natural dampening effect so you can really lighten up on treatment especially along an insulated exterior wall, if your walls are lamenated wood panels they are more refective so a little heavier treatment. Also a huge contributer is suppose to be the walls directly behind your monitors with recomendations to keep 3 feet away with treatment directly behind and a panel or two suspended from the ceiling on a diagonal like this \\\\ (not as steep an angle maybe 45 degrees and shallower) above your chair and extending away from your monitors a few feet

Are you testing as you go?

woodman · July 15th, 2007, 03:26 PM

looks good! just take what ya got and make it work. still trying to figure out the cloud thing, tho...

teledude66 · July 16th, 2007, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by StuH

Very nice.

Do you have gyprock walls? I've read that gyprock has a natural dampening effect so you can really lighten up on treatment especially along an insulated exterior wall, if your walls are lamenated wood panels they are more refective so a little heavier treatment. Also a huge contributer is suppose to be the walls directly behind your monitors with recomendations to keep 3 feet away with treatment directly behind and a panel or two suspended from the ceiling on a diagonal like this \\\\ (not as steep an angle maybe 45 degrees and shallower) above your chair and extending away from your monitors a few feet

Are you testing as you go?

I don't know what Gyprock is except to say I got gyped when I bought this house (rimshot) I heard someone call it rubber rock. It was very pingy or ringing by itself, it sounds very nice in there now. I haven't really messed with behind my monitors yet, but I doubt 3 ft away from the wall will be doable, without taking a lot of space from the room. Maybe if I move it as needed.

teledude66 · July 16th, 2007, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by woodman

looks good! just take what ya got and make it work. still trying to figure out the cloud thing, tho...

Figure out? you mean how they work or how I made them? The triangle clouds idea came from a Home Recording book that was made up of old HR Mag articles. They said take some pegboard, cut it in different angles, wrap it in cloth and hang it at angles. The sound would hit the main part and reflect at off angles, then the rest of the sound would go through the peg holes and get diffused or broken up.

StuH referring to the clouds above my mixing postion how does my angled ceiling play into all this treatment deal and the room as a whole?

StuH · July 17th, 2007, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by teledude66

StuH referring to the clouds above my mixing postion how does my angled ceiling play into all this treatment deal and the room as a whole?

I'd treat it like a level ceiling, it doesn't have that much of an angle to it but I would definitely do this:

Long flat panels say fiberglass pink insulation, framed in some strapping with some cloth over it to make it look purty. Width of your speakers plus a foot on each side, they don't have to be super deep. Suspend them with wire so they are leveled then angle them. As far down as you can get em without knocking your head. Usually 1 or 2 in a smaller bedroom studio. Above your chair or a little ways back from it. Might not need two that will cover reflection off the ceiling 4 sure.

Gyprock-drywall board made out of gypsum selenite, the white chalky stuff. Must be a Canadian thing eh?

teledude66 · July 17th, 2007, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by StuH

Gyprock-drywall board made out of gypsum selenite, the white chalky stuff. Must be a Canadian thing eh?

You Canadians crack me up...

Nah, seriously I appreciate your posts, your comments are very insightful, thanks for the tips.

So your advocating the pink fluffy insulation I've heard others say use the "703" I believe. What are the differences?

StuH · July 18th, 2007, 03:13 AM

I think 703 is a ridgid fiberglass insulation and actually probably would be much better to work with. I guess I advocate pink because I have 10 bundles in my basement.

Here's a link to absorption coefficients of building materials that's pretty neat, the bigger the coefficient the more sound abosorption across the frequencies listed.

http://www.studiotips.com/absorb1.html

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StuH Tele-Afflicted Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yukon, Canada Age: 38 Posts: 1,480 12 Photos	Very nice. Do you have gyprock walls? I've read that gyprock has a natural dampening effect so you can really lighten up on treatment especially along an insulated exterior wall, if your walls are lamenated wood panels they are more refective so a little heavier treatment. Also a huge contributer is suppose to be the walls directly behind your monitors with recomendations to keep 3 feet away with treatment directly behind and a panel or two suspended from the ceiling on a diagonal like this \\\\ (not as steep an angle maybe 45 degrees and shallower) above your chair and extending away from your monitors a few feet Are you testing as you go?

July 18th, 2007, 03:13 AM	#9 (permalink)
StuH Tele-Afflicted Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yukon, Canada Age: 38 Posts: 1,480 12 Photos	I think 703 is a ridgid fiberglass insulation and actually probably would be much better to work with. I guess I advocate pink because I have 10 bundles in my basement. Here's a link to absorption coefficients of building materials that's pretty neat, the bigger the coefficient the more sound abosorption across the frequencies listed. http://www.studiotips.com/absorb1.html