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Martin R · May 21st, 2011, 05:32 PM

I'm pretty sure we're okay on this, but thought I'd get some other opinions...

We recorded some basic tracks, mostly rhythm, but vocals and leads are there for scratch purposes.

Anyway, the sessions went south and we decided not to work with the producer who paid for the studio time. It was a mutual decision.

He had said he would pay for the sessions and take his money from CD sales and a percentage of publishing if anything came of the songs. Nothing was ever signed.

So he's eating the cost of two days recording and I suppose he owns the tracks. But we have copyright on all the originals. We publish our own work but have not done it with these, (you need a runtime for BMI, et al, and these songs hadn't been recorded.)

Does anybody think there's anyway the producer can release our work?

Rolling Estonian · May 21st, 2011, 08:02 PM

I'd check with an attorney just to be sure. A verbal agreement is one thing but rights/ownership is another. Most rational folks eat their losses and move on, some don't. He could be a di*k and throw it out on the internets just to be one. If it was an amicable seperation, you should be good, just ask. I'm sure you could better your stance by offering compensation for studio time as well.

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String Tree · May 21st, 2011, 09:42 PM

Who owns the recorded tracks? Are they on somebody's personal hard drive, or does HE own them?

fezz parka · May 21st, 2011, 09:57 PM

If he paid for them, he owns the masters. Yes, he could release it.

rangercaster · May 21st, 2011, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Nothing was ever signed.

i would offer to reimburse his costs and services in return for releasing the recordings and any futures rights to same ... good luck !!!

Martin R · May 22nd, 2011, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rangercaster

i would offer to reimburse his costs and services in return for releasing the recordings and any futures rights to same ... good luck !!!

Well, if we could have afforded studio time there wouldn't have been an issue. Anyway, the tracks weren't finished, we don't want them.

If he does release them I doubt anything will come of it. (And if it does, say Emmylou decides to record one of the tracks, we win.)

Thanks for the input, everyone.

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Martin R Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 1,871 1 Photos	Ownership Question I'm pretty sure we're okay on this, but thought I'd get some other opinions... We recorded some basic tracks, mostly rhythm, but vocals and leads are there for scratch purposes. Anyway, the sessions went south and we decided not to work with the producer who paid for the studio time. It was a mutual decision. He had said he would pay for the sessions and take his money from CD sales and a percentage of publishing if anything came of the songs. Nothing was ever signed. So he's eating the cost of two days recording and I suppose he owns the tracks. But we have copyright on all the originals. We publish our own work but have not done it with these, (you need a runtime for BMI, et al, and these songs hadn't been recorded.) Does anybody think there's anyway the producer can release our work? __________________ Martin ___________________________ E. Christina Herr & Wild Frontier Americana Motel

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Rolling Estonian Friend of Leo's Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bethesda, MD. Age: 44 Posts: 3,666 1 Photos	I'd check with an attorney just to be sure. A verbal agreement is one thing but rights/ownership is another. Most rational folks eat their losses and move on, some don't. He could be a di*k and throw it out on the internets just to be one. If it was an amicable seperation, you should be good, just ask. I'm sure you could better your stance by offering compensation for studio time as well. M __________________ "This here's a joy ride so I say en-joy!" Dana Carvey as H. Ross Perot

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