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Big John · April 13th, 2011, 07:49 AM

Still making the transition from DP but getting on well with Logic, wanted to do this track for ages, ended up keeping it straight and simple.
One or two things are in different places than DP but overall Logic seems faster, both on the machine and on me !

Willin'

getbent · April 13th, 2011, 10:13 AM

The song that made me learn how to play guitar! I love this version... great job... love the electric piano too... I miss when that was a big part of the country rock sound....

Great stuff John!

woodman · April 13th, 2011, 10:41 AM

Love it! Man, that is one sweet amp in your hands. Did you play in the piano part yourself?

I'm a Logic noob myself and found it quick to get the hang of, though I've only scratched the surface.

Big John · April 13th, 2011, 01:16 PM

Cheers guys !!
woody, you hear more of the SparkleDrive than the amp tone on that unfortunately but if I turn that thing up to get that kind of sound out of it i'll be doing structural damage !!

Funny someone doesn't invent a 'Master volume' control ....... oh, I see.

Yup, did the Rhodes clumsily myself, with all the editing I needed to do to it was a great crash course in Midi within Logic, the 'Hi string' part in the left speaker is midi also and the acoustic on the right is a 'Variax' I borrowed from a friend ... yes, I have the D18 but it seemed like a neat thing to try.
That scrolling/zooming thing is a little annoying and I really think I could do with an extra monitor too, with prices as they are that wouldn't be a bad idea.
I'm really liking 'Logic' though and I was a committed MOTU user since DP2.2, seems easier on the Mac's resources too, i'm still on a G4 with 10.5.8 and 2Gb of RAM and Logic runs as sweet as a nut.
getbent, yeeaahhh, thats such a great song, perfect for a trucker or a gigging musician I reckon, and that intro is worth the price of admission alone I reckon. Yep, I remember the Rhodes, I love 'em when they are ever so, ever so, ever so near to breaking up, what a great sound.

Sharkblues · April 13th, 2011, 01:26 PM

That was nice Big John!

Big John · April 13th, 2011, 02:00 PM

Thanks Sharkblues, a quick question for the experts though (gb ?), how the heck do I clear all the automation data on a track ?, I know from the manual I should hit 'Control+Apple+E' but when I do I just get the 'bonk' sound ...

Should I have another window open before I hit the keys ?

getbent · April 13th, 2011, 02:08 PM

this should help senor juan

Big John · April 13th, 2011, 02:44 PM

highlight the track in the arrange window.

options>track automation>delete all automation data of current track.

Awww danggg !!, how easy was that ?

Cheers gb !!

binkydognose · April 13th, 2011, 02:58 PM

arrrrrrgh...... I wish my workplace didn't block everything! (I'm on lunch break btw, edit aww who am I kidding, I lurk all day during work).
Love that song, can't wait to hear it.

peteycaster · April 13th, 2011, 04:54 PM

Nice one. We've played this song live for years. Loved the keyboards.

As a by the by, got tickets to see Little Feat on the 28th as a support to Leon Russell. Can't wait, this will be the third time for me (and the second time I've seen Leon).

binkydognose · April 13th, 2011, 09:25 PM

Mr. Big John, there are tears in my eyes.
That is BEAUTIFUL.
If I could play like that my wife would fall in love all over again. The recording sounds top notch to my ears.

Geoff738 · April 15th, 2011, 09:25 PM

Good stuff!

Just gonna mention that I stuck a link to a list of keyboard shortcuts in Logic in a recent thread here. Probably just as easy to google - but either way having them at your fingertips (yes, aware of the pun) really helps the workflow.

Are there any pubs named the Henhouse around you?

Cheers,
Geoff

Big John · April 16th, 2011, 03:00 AM

Cheers Geoff !!, I followed getbent's link to the Logic forum and made a copy, I do prefer shortcuts, I just have to re-learn a few on the change over from DP.
The Henhouse ?, nope, I don't think so though but I live next door to the 'Horseshoes' if thats any help.

....... oh hang on !!!, thats a reference to the village name right ?, sorry, it's early, I just figured it after I posted ------- DOH !!

Geoff738 · April 16th, 2011, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big John

....... oh hang on !!!, thats a reference to the village name right ?, sorry, it's early, I just figured it after I posted ------- DOH !!

Nope - was thinking of the new amp, actually!

Cheers,
Geoff

Big John · April 16th, 2011, 01:57 PM

It's true !!!, I am useless first thing in the morning !!, the village I live in is called 'Cockfield' so I figured ...... ah well

The model is 5D6C and I really have to think when someone asks "Which one is that ?" ......... maybe one of them cool tattoos like Mandy Marie has ?

MandyMarie · April 17th, 2011, 01:25 AM

;-):-)

...if I lived in your village I would get embarrassed and blush each time someone asked me where I was from.

Big John · April 17th, 2011, 02:32 AM

Ha !, MM, if you said you were from 'Deepinahearta Texas' most folk here would just think that was maybe the other side of the next village ..

We are in spitting distance of a village called 'Thorpe Morieux' where my maternal side of the family hail from and DAC claims in his book that his folk originated there, it's such an odd name I can't believe he made that up.

Geoff738 · May 22nd, 2011, 02:46 PM

Just gonna bump this up again to say - there's a lot of little "secret" doodads in Logic.

Well, they're not really secret - but it might take a little digging to discover them.

Like the compressor. There's a little triangle at the bottom. Clicked it for the first time a couple days ago.There's some interesting stuff in there. Like a sidechain input that could be used as a de-esser. More info here: http://www.gearslutz.com/board/music...-de-esser.html Or just watch this vid: http://www.popmusic.dk/download/logi...r-tutorial.mov

The guy posting that also has some presets for de-essing and modeling an SSL type compressor (among other things) in Logic on his website. There's a link to it somewhere in there. Definitely worth checking out.

Ok, back to the Logic comp. Clicking that triangle at the bottom also shows you an output level slider. Back that off and you're basically doing parallel compression without having to buss. Cool!

Cheers,
Geoff

Big John · May 22nd, 2011, 03:16 PM

Nice one Geoff !
The help files and tutorials are excellent with Logic but like most, I don't feel like sitting down and reading 1000 pages for fun so tend to use it for reference, discovering stuff is fun and I think you remember it that way too.

getbent · May 22nd, 2011, 03:57 PM

the help menu is pretty good. if you learn to use it, you'll never look in the manual.

April 13th, 2011, 07:49 AM	#1 (permalink)
Big John Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Austin Tx. Posts: 8,836 39 Photos	Logic learnin' Still making the transition from DP but getting on well with Logic, wanted to do this track for ages, ended up keeping it straight and simple. One or two things are in different places than DP but overall Logic seems faster, both on the machine and on me ! Willin' __________________ If you are going to be a bear, be a grizzly !!

April 13th, 2011, 10:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
getbent Super Moderator Telefied Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Benito County, California Posts: 25,448 37 Photos	The song that made me learn how to play guitar! I love this version... great job... love the electric piano too... I miss when that was a big part of the country rock sound.... Great stuff John! __________________ "My favorite thing is when Don and Glenn are writing together, that is the stuff I like to play guitar to." -Joe Walsh.

April 13th, 2011, 10:41 AM	#3 (permalink)
woodman Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mint Hill, NC Age: 67 Posts: 13,075	Love it! Man, that is one sweet amp in your hands. Did you play in the piano part yourself? I'm a Logic noob myself and found it quick to get the hang of, though I've only scratched the surface. __________________ Truth is stranger than fact ... It pays to appease all the gods — Gnossos Pappadopoulis YouTube channel • Originals

April 13th, 2011, 01:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
Big John Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Austin Tx. Posts: 8,836 39 Photos	Cheers guys !! woody, you hear more of the SparkleDrive than the amp tone on that unfortunately but if I turn that thing up to get that kind of sound out of it i'll be doing structural damage !! Funny someone doesn't invent a 'Master volume' control ....... oh, I see. Yup, did the Rhodes clumsily myself, with all the editing I needed to do to it was a great crash course in Midi within Logic, the 'Hi string' part in the left speaker is midi also and the acoustic on the right is a 'Variax' I borrowed from a friend ... yes, I have the D18 but it seemed like a neat thing to try. That scrolling/zooming thing is a little annoying and I really think I could do with an extra monitor too, with prices as they are that wouldn't be a bad idea. I'm really liking 'Logic' though and I was a committed MOTU user since DP2.2, seems easier on the Mac's resources too, i'm still on a G4 with 10.5.8 and 2Gb of RAM and Logic runs as sweet as a nut. getbent, yeeaahhh, thats such a great song, perfect for a trucker or a gigging musician I reckon, and that intro is worth the price of admission alone I reckon. Yep, I remember the Rhodes, I love 'em when they are ever so, ever so, ever so near to breaking up, what a great sound. __________________ If you are going to be a bear, be a grizzly !!

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Sharkblues Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 276 1 Photos	That was nice Big John! __________________ “Rock, blues, country it’s all the same horse, it’s just a different rider.” Waylon Jennings

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April 13th, 2011, 02:00 PM	#6 (permalink)
Big John Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Austin Tx. Posts: 8,836 39 Photos	Thanks Sharkblues, a quick question for the experts though (gb ?), how the heck do I clear all the automation data on a track ?, I know from the manual I should hit 'Control+Apple+E' but when I do I just get the 'bonk' sound ... Should I have another window open before I hit the keys ? __________________ If you are going to be a bear, be a grizzly !!

April 13th, 2011, 02:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
getbent Super Moderator Telefied Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Benito County, California Posts: 25,448 37 Photos	this should help senor juan __________________ "My favorite thing is when Don and Glenn are writing together, that is the stuff I like to play guitar to." -Joe Walsh.

April 13th, 2011, 02:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
Big John Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Austin Tx. Posts: 8,836 39 Photos	highlight the track in the arrange window. options>track automation>delete all automation data of current track. Awww danggg !!, how easy was that ? Cheers gb !! __________________ If you are going to be a bear, be a grizzly !!

April 13th, 2011, 02:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
binkydognose Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Glendale Arizona Posts: 1,150 2 Photos	arrrrrrgh...... I wish my workplace didn't block everything! (I'm on lunch break btw, edit aww who am I kidding, I lurk all day during work). Love that song, can't wait to hear it. __________________ stuffs Last edited by binkydognose; April 13th, 2011 at 09:26 PM.

April 13th, 2011, 04:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
peteycaster Tele-Meister Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 417	Nice one. We've played this song live for years. Loved the keyboards. As a by the by, got tickets to see Little Feat on the 28th as a support to Leon Russell. Can't wait, this will be the third time for me (and the second time I've seen Leon).

April 13th, 2011, 09:25 PM	#11 (permalink)
binkydognose Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Glendale Arizona Posts: 1,150 2 Photos	Mr. Big John, there are tears in my eyes. That is BEAUTIFUL. If I could play like that my wife would fall in love all over again. The recording sounds top notch to my ears. __________________ stuffs

April 15th, 2011, 09:25 PM	#12 (permalink)
Geoff738 Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2007 Location: Toronto Age: 49 Posts: 3,962	Good stuff! Just gonna mention that I stuck a link to a list of keyboard shortcuts in Logic in a recent thread here. Probably just as easy to google - but either way having them at your fingertips (yes, aware of the pun) really helps the workflow. Are there any pubs named the Henhouse around you? Cheers, Geoff __________________ "Love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world."

April 16th, 2011, 03:00 AM	#13 (permalink)
Big John Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Austin Tx. Posts: 8,836 39 Photos	Cheers Geoff !!, I followed getbent's link to the Logic forum and made a copy, I do prefer shortcuts, I just have to re-learn a few on the change over from DP. The Henhouse ?, nope, I don't think so though but I live next door to the 'Horseshoes' if thats any help. ....... oh hang on !!!, thats a reference to the village name right ?, sorry, it's early, I just figured it after I posted ------- DOH !! __________________ If you are going to be a bear, be a grizzly !!

April 16th, 2011, 01:57 PM	#15 (permalink)
Big John Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Austin Tx. Posts: 8,836 39 Photos	It's true !!!, I am useless first thing in the morning !!, the village I live in is called 'Cockfield' so I figured ...... ah well The model is 5D6C and I really have to think when someone asks "Which one is that ?" ......... maybe one of them cool tattoos like Mandy Marie has ? __________________ If you are going to be a bear, be a grizzly !!

April 17th, 2011, 01:25 AM	#16 (permalink)
MandyMarie Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,767 64 Photos	;-):-) ...if I lived in your village I would get embarrassed and blush each time someone asked me where I was from. __________________ http://www.facebook.com/mandymarieandthecoolhandlukes

April 17th, 2011, 02:32 AM	#17 (permalink)
Big John Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Austin Tx. Posts: 8,836 39 Photos	Ha !, MM, if you said you were from 'Deepinahearta Texas' most folk here would just think that was maybe the other side of the next village .. We are in spitting distance of a village called 'Thorpe Morieux' where my maternal side of the family hail from and DAC claims in his book that his folk originated there, it's such an odd name I can't believe he made that up. __________________ If you are going to be a bear, be a grizzly !!

May 22nd, 2011, 02:46 PM	#18 (permalink)
Geoff738 Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2007 Location: Toronto Age: 49 Posts: 3,962	Just gonna bump this up again to say - there's a lot of little "secret" doodads in Logic. Well, they're not really secret - but it might take a little digging to discover them. Like the compressor. There's a little triangle at the bottom. Clicked it for the first time a couple days ago.There's some interesting stuff in there. Like a sidechain input that could be used as a de-esser. More info here: http://www.gearslutz.com/board/music...-de-esser.html Or just watch this vid: http://www.popmusic.dk/download/logi...r-tutorial.mov The guy posting that also has some presets for de-essing and modeling an SSL type compressor (among other things) in Logic on his website. There's a link to it somewhere in there. Definitely worth checking out. Ok, back to the Logic comp. Clicking that triangle at the bottom also shows you an output level slider. Back that off and you're basically doing parallel compression without having to buss. Cool! Cheers, Geoff __________________ "Love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world."

May 22nd, 2011, 03:16 PM	#19 (permalink)
Big John Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Austin Tx. Posts: 8,836 39 Photos	Nice one Geoff ! The help files and tutorials are excellent with Logic but like most, I don't feel like sitting down and reading 1000 pages for fun so tend to use it for reference, discovering stuff is fun and I think you remember it that way too. __________________ If you are going to be a bear, be a grizzly !!

May 22nd, 2011, 03:57 PM	#20 (permalink)
getbent Super Moderator Telefied Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Benito County, California Posts: 25,448 37 Photos	the help menu is pretty good. if you learn to use it, you'll never look in the manual. __________________ "My favorite thing is when Don and Glenn are writing together, that is the stuff I like to play guitar to." -Joe Walsh.

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