In need of quality plugins?

[StuH]

IK Multimedia have a group buy promo on their site. Currently 5 plugins for the price of 1, likely to hit 6 for 1.

No affiliation with them, just looks like a good deal.
Looks like a good way to beef up the DAW.

Link
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/Main.htm...pmix/index.php

[flipside]

I've nothing against plugins. I use them myself from time to time, but quite honestly, I've never heard one that could compete with even the cheapest of my rack gear. Going 32-bit didn't help either. All my old 16-bit rack stuff just sounds fuller. I have yet to hear even a reverb plug that sounded anywhere near as good as my cheapo Alesis Micorverb. Plugs just don't cut it for me very often.

[StuH]

Maybe you have been using stereo plugins inserted on a mono bus?

[petebradt]

I've gotten good results with compression and delay plugs. Reverbs aren't very good, I'd rather record a second track with an omni SDC set up in the middle of the room for reverb, and then mix accordingly, though for guitar, I think delay is a better effect. In any event, I use effects sparingly. That said, there are some nice compressors in that collection.

[flipside]

Originally Posted by StuH

Maybe you have been using stereo plugins inserted on a mono bus?

Nope; I've had a recording studio since the late 80s. I know how to route effects.

Really, I've nothing against plugins, and I'm glad you posted this stuff. It'll probably be a help to some people. They just aren't for me.

[StuH]

Originally Posted by flipside

Nope; I've had a recording studio since the late 80s. I know how to route effects.

Really, I've nothing against plugins, and I'm glad you posted this stuff. It'll probably be a help to some people. They just aren't for me.

I've only been doing this for a hobby for only three years and didn't realize you could switch from a mono track to a stereo track in Sonar until year 2. Made a huge difference of course. Not trying to be smug, thought maybe I wasn't the only one.

I have had hit and miss success with plugins, especially the free ones, and the generics provided with the typical DAW but have really been enjoying the stuff from Nomad Factory and I have four of the IK plugins in that group buy and enjoy them all. Not rich enough to buy the Waves stuff but hear they are pretty nice aswell.

[Astro1176]

Originally Posted by flipside

I've nothing against plugins. I use them myself from time to time, but quite honestly, I've never heard one that could compete with even the cheapest of my rack gear. Going 32-bit didn't help either. All my old 16-bit rack stuff just sounds fuller. I have yet to hear even a reverb plug that sounded anywhere near as good as my cheapo Alesis Micorverb. Plugs just don't cut it for me very often.

Funny about reverbs, it is really hard to find plug in verbs that work in the mix as well as SPX-90, midiverbs, quadraverbs, and old Lexicons etc etc... but those hardware units are basically the same as a dedicated plugin running on a little computer with nasty AD/DA convertors - its just a computer algorithm running on a computer, and no doubt the same algorithms that you find in many of the plug ins around.

Having said that - the modelling reverbs are pretty nice plugs.

[flipside]

Originally Posted by Astro1176

Funny about reverbs, it is really hard to find plug in verbs that work in the mix as well as SPX-90, midiverbs, quadraverbs, and old Lexicons etc etc... but those hardware units are basically the same as a dedicated plugin running on a little computer with nasty AD/DA convertors - its just a computer algorithm running on a computer, and no doubt the same algorithms that you find in many of the plug ins around.

Having said that - the modelling reverbs are pretty nice plugs.

One thing that makes a difference is that I can record my hardware to tape (or digital track) as I'm recording it rather than doing it after the fact. I wouldn't do that with vocals and certain other things, so for those I use plugins. But I print effects straight to the track all the time with something like acoustic guitar. I like the sound of my reverbs and my old DBX 160XT compressor, and those sound best printing to track I think. Effects just lose something if you try to add them after the track has been recorded. I don't know why. Of course with the newer DAW/effects/USB-soundcard stuff that's out there now, you can use plugins live on the soundcard mixer as you're recording and print to track with them too. My DAW stuff is too old to do that.

[StuH]

I'm going to take the bait and buy into this deal today.

Just researching the Vintage Tube Comp and Vintage Tube EQ and have heard these on par or better than the Fairchild and Pultec emulations done by UAD.

[flipside]

Maybe you can demo them first?

[StuH]

Ya you can but I already bought them.

I have 4 already in the Classic series which are all very good.
$600 worth for $99 is too good to pass up on.

[flipside]

Well you couldn't get hurt too much at that price even if it turned out that you didn't like any of them. All it would take is one good one out of the bunch to make your day, so it sounds like you got quite a deal.

[petebradt]

Originally Posted by StuH

IK Multimedia have a group buy promo on their site. Currently 5 plugins for the price of 1, likely to hit 6 for 1.

No affiliation with them, just looks like a good deal.
Looks like a good way to beef up the DAW.

Link
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/Main.htm...pmix/index.php

I snagged 'em. Good deal. Thanks for the heads-up.

[StuH]

Originally Posted by petebradt

I snagged 'em. Good deal. Thanks for the heads-up.

No prob.
Which ones did you get.

I picked up the:

Vintage Tube Comp/Limiter Model 670 (absolutely excellent-great plug)
Vintage Tube Program Eq (great one too-very musical)
Brickwall Limiter (haven't tried yet)
Linear Phase EQ (another great eq)
Complete Metering Suite (looks usefull but no opinion yet)
HALL Classic Studio Reverb (very nice)

Pretty happy with this. About two years ago I lucked out and a Candian distributer were blowing out Nomad Factory Essential Studio Suite for $40, it goes for $400 regularly. This IK deal is about as good a bargain as that. Hundred dollar plugins for 18 bucks a pop, plus a free reverb. Pretty good IMO

[petebradt]

I got EXACTLY the same ones you did. GMTA.

Man, if you hear about Nomads being blown out again, please do let me know...

[StuH]

Originally Posted by petebradt

I got EXACTLY the same ones you did. GMTA.

Man, if you hear about Nomads being blown out again, please do let me know...

Next time I will pm you. THey also had Rock Amp Legends going for 40 bucks. I thought I posted about that one.

Same for you too, if you see anything out there let me know.