Going into the studio for the first time - Page 2

Dababy · April 27th, 2009, 08:41 PM

I will be playing to acoustic guitar scratch tracks - but I understand what everybody is saying about the bass tracks being foundational. I will politely suggest that they might be done first. Good advice from everybody!

mudbean · April 27th, 2009, 09:01 PM

Sheesh, when does the guitarist EVER listen to the bass player?

mud

woodman · April 27th, 2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mudbean

Sheesh, when does the guitarist EVER listen to the bass player?

hmmmm ... i remember a brief moment in 1979 ....

SackvilleDan · April 27th, 2009, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by backalleyblues

Ummm, radspin, the OP is playing with a praise band... no alcohol period...

Franc Robert

I don't want to start a long, lengthly discussion on religion and alcohol / drug use, but do many worship bands abstain from alcohol altogether? I'm Catholic and I've never felt that a few beer were inappropriate at a jam, etc.

Dababy · April 27th, 2009, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SackvilleDan

I don't want to start a long, lengthly discussion on religion and alcohol / drug use, but do many worship bands abstain from alcohol altogether? I'm Catholic and I've never felt that a few beer were inappropriate at a jam, etc.

I'm protestant - the church I grew up in preached against alcohol. Period. The one that I'm a member of now says you shouldn't be dependent on alcohol and you shouldn't get drunk. I never developed a taste for it anyway. (Got alcohol poisoning at my first party when I was 17 - cured me forever!) Don't think anybody will be getting their buzz on when we hit the studio.

Robbied_216 · April 28th, 2009, 08:17 AM

Don't wanna hijack, but hey....Jesus first miracle was turning water into "Good Wine"...
Enough said on that....this sort of talk probably doesn't belong in this forum...

Dababy · April 28th, 2009, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbied_216

Don't wanna hijack, but hey....Jesus first miracle was turning water into "Good Wine"...
Enough said on that....this sort of talk probably doesn't belong in this forum...

Very true.

Old Cane · April 28th, 2009, 01:58 PM

I kind of do this myself. I get a drum loop going, lay down scratch guitar. Then I do bass. Then I send this to the drummer, he does his part and sends it back. Then I go back over it and do bass, guitar and vocal. I may do vocals somewhere int he middle as a place keeper but the final vocals will go on last.

I guess what I'm saying is you sure could do the way you described but since there is already a guitar on, I would see if you could either get the bass on before you or else go do your stuff quickly, get the bass on and then you go back and redo your parts. The other option is going in with the bass player. So you can certainly do it the way they want you to but I think there are a couple of better options if they will work with you. Just know that if they won't change things that you can get it done and just go do it.

ganttmann · April 28th, 2009, 02:32 PM

Going in with the bass player would be a great idea if it's possible. It's a lot easier for most people to groove with another person than it is to groove with a pre-recorded track. Plus you'd have a creative partner for finding parts.

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Originally Posted by Old Cane

I kind of do this myself. I get a drum loop going, lay down scratch guitar. Then I do bass. Then I send this to the drummer, he does his part and sends it back. Then I go back over it and do bass, guitar and vocal. I may do vocals somewhere int he middle as a place keeper but the final vocals will go on last.

I guess what I'm saying is you sure could do the way you described but since there is already a guitar on, I would see if you could either get the bass on before you or else go do your stuff quickly, get the bass on and then you go back and redo your parts. The other option is going in with the bass player. So you can certainly do it the way they want you to but I think there are a couple of better options if they will work with you. Just know that if they won't change things that you can get it done and just go do it.

Old Cane · April 28th, 2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ganttmann

Plus you'd have a creative partner for finding parts.

Wait, I thought we were talking about going in with the bass player?

Dababy · May 11th, 2009, 11:42 PM

Well I had a blast in the studio! We did some stuff that I had practiced and then we wrote a LOT of parts right then and there - that was cool. The studio owner/engineer was very knowledgeable and helpful. Here's a couple of pics:
Me playing my partscaster:

Playing the lap steel (pedal steel sound with the homemade palm-pedal on there):

Our worship leader/producer and his '69 thinline RI / the engineer and all his knobs:

We actually recorded everything on the electrics from the control room. Our amps were in an isolation booth just around the corner. 10 hours total for 7 songs. The rest will be done later.

giginthesky · May 11th, 2009, 11:55 PM

i like that lap steel! dababy, will you be posting the tunes when they're done? love to hear them.

Dababy · May 12th, 2009, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by giginthesky

i like that lap steel! dababy, will you be posting the tunes when they're done? love to hear them.

Thanks! That was the first guitar I ever made. I'll have to check with some people to see if I can post thier songs, but I will at least post the one I wrote - It's the only all-acoustic song on there. We recorded that one in one take, live with 2 acoustics and a singer. Our worship leader wanted that one to have a more "live" organic feel. I probably won't have anything to post until the album is done, but just maybe I can get a rough mix of something.

tele salivas · May 19th, 2009, 09:59 AM

sounds and looks like everything went well(7 songs in 10 hours shows you guys were prepared). nice looking studio and I am really interested in hearing what the palm pedal sounds like...thanks for posting pics

Dababy · May 24th, 2009, 03:13 PM

Yeah we had fun and everything went pretty smooth. I don't have anything from the studio but if you want to hear what the lap steel sounds like here's a link to a song I did at home with it.
http://www.soundclick.com/util/getpl...d=7552504&q=hi
I was just learning how to play it when I recorded this so it's a little pitchy in parts but still sounds good to me

redstringuitar · May 24th, 2009, 03:55 PM

Take, or make sure you have access to, food and drink...it's hungry work!

jimmynumber9 · June 4th, 2009, 03:21 AM

Most importantly be in tune. That and get the "feel" of the song the feel in your emotional mindset to get it.

April 27th, 2009, 08:41 PM	#41 (permalink)
Dababy Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Northeast Ohio Age: 33 Posts: 228 2 Photos	I will be playing to acoustic guitar scratch tracks - but I understand what everybody is saying about the bass tracks being foundational. I will politely suggest that they might be done first. Good advice from everybody! __________________ Check out my website: Indie/ alt country/ praise & worship/ blues. Is that a genre? http://www.wix.com/JoelSkaggsMusic/dababyguitar

April 27th, 2009, 09:01 PM	#42 (permalink)
mudbean Friend of Leo's Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: SoCal Semi-Desert Semi-Paradise Age: 50 Posts: 3,185 10 Photos	Sheesh, when does the guitarist EVER listen to the bass player? mud __________________ MudBean Music Nekkid Bart: "This is the worst day of my life." Laffing Homer: "Worst day SO FAR!!"

April 28th, 2009, 01:58 PM	#48 (permalink)
Old Cane Friend of Leo's Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Age: 48 Posts: 2,270	I kind of do this myself. I get a drum loop going, lay down scratch guitar. Then I do bass. Then I send this to the drummer, he does his part and sends it back. Then I go back over it and do bass, guitar and vocal. I may do vocals somewhere int he middle as a place keeper but the final vocals will go on last. I guess what I'm saying is you sure could do the way you described but since there is already a guitar on, I would see if you could either get the bass on before you or else go do your stuff quickly, get the bass on and then you go back and redo your parts. The other option is going in with the bass player. So you can certainly do it the way they want you to but I think there are a couple of better options if they will work with you. Just know that if they won't change things that you can get it done and just go do it. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/otiskeithwatkins

May 11th, 2009, 11:42 PM	#51 (permalink)
Dababy Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Northeast Ohio Age: 33 Posts: 228 2 Photos	Thanks for all the tips, guys! Well I had a blast in the studio! We did some stuff that I had practiced and then we wrote a LOT of parts right then and there - that was cool. The studio owner/engineer was very knowledgeable and helpful. Here's a couple of pics: Me playing my partscaster: Playing the lap steel (pedal steel sound with the homemade palm-pedal on there): Our worship leader/producer and his '69 thinline RI / the engineer and all his knobs: We actually recorded everything on the electrics from the control room. Our amps were in an isolation booth just around the corner. 10 hours total for 7 songs. The rest will be done later. __________________ Check out my website: Indie/ alt country/ praise & worship/ blues. Is that a genre? http://www.wix.com/JoelSkaggsMusic/dababyguitar

May 11th, 2009, 11:55 PM	#52 (permalink)
giginthesky Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: south jersey Age: 37 Posts: 1,575 6 Photos	i like that lap steel! dababy, will you be posting the tunes when they're done? love to hear them. __________________ www.myspace.com/giginthesky

April 28th, 2009, 08:17 AM	#46 (permalink)
Robbied_216 Tele-Meister Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia - Beautiful!!! Age: 24 Posts: 219	Don't wanna hijack, but hey....Jesus first miracle was turning water into "Good Wine"... Enough said on that....this sort of talk probably doesn't belong in this forum...

May 19th, 2009, 09:59 AM	#54 (permalink)
tele salivas Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: tulsa,ok Age: 39 Posts: 1,011	sounds and looks like everything went well(7 songs in 10 hours shows you guys were prepared). nice looking studio and I am really interested in hearing what the palm pedal sounds like...thanks for posting pics

May 24th, 2009, 03:13 PM	#55 (permalink)
Dababy Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Northeast Ohio Age: 33 Posts: 228 2 Photos	Yeah we had fun and everything went pretty smooth. I don't have anything from the studio but if you want to hear what the lap steel sounds like here's a link to a song I did at home with it. http://www.soundclick.com/util/getpl...d=7552504&q=hi I was just learning how to play it when I recorded this so it's a little pitchy in parts but still sounds good to me __________________ Check out my website: Indie/ alt country/ praise & worship/ blues. Is that a genre? http://www.wix.com/JoelSkaggsMusic/dababyguitar

May 24th, 2009, 03:55 PM	#56 (permalink)
redstringuitar Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Wales Age: 46 Posts: 972	Take, or make sure you have access to, food and drink...it's hungry work! __________________ The world is full of busy people, might be a better place if some of 'em spent more time on their arses...

June 4th, 2009, 03:21 AM	#57 (permalink)
jimmynumber9 Tele-Meister Join Date: May 2009 Location: Kimball, NE Age: 17 Posts: 143	Most importantly be in tune. That and get the "feel" of the song the feel in your emotional mindset to get it.

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