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Old October 29th, 2008, 12:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Recording bass with a guitar and Cubase

This may be a silly question but is it plausable to record bass lines with a guitar and drop them an octave with Cubase? Does it sound OK?

I'm farely new to recording and would like to add some bass lines but not sure I want to go out and buy a bass and amp.

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Old October 29th, 2008, 01:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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This may be a silly question but is it plausable to record bass lines with a guitar and drop them an octave with Cubase? Does it sound OK?

I'm farely new to recording and would like to add some bass lines but not sure I want to go out and buy a bass and amp.
Dunno, never tried it ... let us know how it works. BTW, you don't need an amp to record bass.

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Old October 29th, 2008, 02:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
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You could try it ......it depends on what plugins you have.Guitar rig has got some octave effects in it and you could also use a voice plug in eg. dropping the tone down -12....and so on....I've recorded a few guitar lines using these effects.....only problem is that it doesn't really sound like a bass......only a bass will give you the proper bottom end.
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Old October 29th, 2008, 02:14 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yeah ..by the way you could buy a bass and just DI it into your PC....wouldn't need an amp as said in a previous reply.
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Old October 29th, 2008, 02:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Yeah ..by the way you could buy a bass and just DI it into your PC....wouldn't need an amp as said in a previous reply.
Exactly - Hop on the CraigsList and grab a Squire for under $100.

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Old October 29th, 2008, 05:14 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I tried the pitch shift trick - it sounded lousy whatever I did. I also tried an external pitch-shift effect pedal - just as bad. Bought a bass guitar and a zoom bass pedal - perfect and loads of fun learning to play.
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Old October 30th, 2008, 04:24 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Yeah...I agree..... I've been playing guitar for 30 years....only over the last 5 years I've been playing live bass instead of quantizing keyboard bass lines for backing tracks and my CD tracks......and it is great fun.I picked up a great new Fender Jazz Bass (mexican) for £200....I bought a sax too to learn........but that's another story !!
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Old October 30th, 2008, 06:36 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Hey mate.

You can... but whether you should is another matter. You get all manner of tracking problems and "artifacts" when you do it. I did it once when I had no bass around, but I wiped it ASAP. Sounded like crap...
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Old October 30th, 2008, 08:17 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Guess I'm going bass shopping! Thanks guys!

I was actually at the guitar shop yesterday, pricing various levels of Fender's Jazz bass. I'm sure a Squire would suit but it won't be for a month or two.
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hey, the squier will be great.. you can always swap pickups... I use a squier pbass with some fancier pickups... a pretty famous bass player friend of mine used it with me on a corporate thing and he made a point to tell me how good it sounded and played....

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Old October 30th, 2008, 10:40 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Many years ago, in messing around with cassette 4-track portastudios, I used to just record the bass parts with my Telecaster's neck pickup, playing down low on the guitar. Sure, it's not as low as a real bass, but it worked considerably better than you'd think!

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Old October 31st, 2008, 01:20 PM   #12 (permalink)
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It sounds totally fake. Bass sound is not just the sound of a 6-string guitar dropped down an octave lower. Bass is a completely different tonal quality.

The way you play bass is also very different stylistically.

I would recommend buy a used bass for $200 or under and get used to playing that, if you are serious about recording and want to play all the parts yourself that is the way to go.
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I've found that if you dime the bass, take away all treble and mids, and play the bass part 2 octaves above the actual part, then drop it 2 octaves, it works very well.
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Old November 2nd, 2008, 04:56 PM   #14 (permalink)
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BTW, you don't need an amp to record bass.
In fact, it just complicates things.

Cheapest popular DI solution, and a good one.

Other solutions are to do it with a keyboard MIDI controller and some better VSTi bass synth -- freeware, warez, whatever. Truthfully, the best bass stuff I hear today in hi-buck commercial recording isn't from an actual bass anymore.
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