For All You Home-Studio/Recorders Out There - Cubase or Pro Tools?

rodeo_joel · May 14th, 2008, 02:33 AM

I've been having a lot of driver issues with my old version of Cubase SE 1 on my Macbook Pro. OSX Leopard just seems to have a lot of driver and compatibility issues with old stuff like that.

Anyways, i'm thinking of upgrading to a newer and (hopefully) less troublesome program. Seriously considering Pro Tools.

What's your guys's preferences?

I like the idea of Pro Tools cuz i know someday i'd like to get involved with the music industry in one or more areas and i know lots of big-time studios like using pro tools. Hopefully it might prepare me a bit for what's to come.

Cheers,
Joel

Jackson Jackson · May 14th, 2008, 03:09 AM

Having used both in a professional setting, Cubase for two years and Pro Tools for 7+....Pro Tools, hands down.

mudbean · May 14th, 2008, 03:14 AM

Well, Pro Tools is the "name brand."

mud

getbent · May 14th, 2008, 03:48 AM

Joel, I saw your thread about drum software... if you are student, you can get logic really inexpensively AND it includes drum software... along with great amp software etc...

otherwise, I guess protools.... or even digital performer or nuendo before cubase.

rodeo_joel · May 14th, 2008, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by getbent

Joel, I saw your thread about drum software... if you are student, you can get logic really inexpensively AND it includes drum software... along with great amp software etc...

otherwise, I guess protools.... or even digital performer or nuendo before cubase.

Cool, i'll have to check into that. I know there's also some Pro Tools things (software & interface kits, plug-in VST's etc.) that i can get at an academic discount too. But ya, i'll check out Logic. I haven't really looked into it much before.

Thanks,
Joel

Poppatwang · May 14th, 2008, 10:41 AM

Academic version of Logic out there too. Apple bought E-Magic so Logic is an Apple
program now. So it's happy on a Mac. If you've used GarageBand, that's a
truncated version of Logic. Similar work flow.

Arlo · May 14th, 2008, 11:17 AM

Tools LE is not compatible with Leopard yet from what I hear.

Logic Studio is one deal that I couldn't even pass up. It has everything and does everything and is compatible with Leopard.

I love Logic but I love Tools too.

Probably Logic like Bent said is your best bet and friendliest to the wallet for now.

From Digidesign:

Mac OS X Requirements with Pro Tools 6 & 7

Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) Compatibility Information

Pro Tools LE®, Pro Tools M-Powered™, Pro Tools|HD PCI (not PCIe) systems*, older Intel-based Mac Pro computers, and Avid video peripherals are currently not compatible with the Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) operating system.

From Logic: http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/

Logic Pro 8.0.1 addresses specific customer issues and improves Leopard compatibility of Logic Pro 8.0. It includes Waveburner 1.5.1 and Impulse Response Utility 1.0.1

woodman · May 14th, 2008, 11:58 AM

a good friend has parked his ProTools rig at my studio while he's out of the country for an extended spell ... the awesomeness of its potential is exceeded only by the steep learning curve! i'm feeling my way through and am determined to master it, since it's kind of an industry standard, but i'm keeping my Garageband system up and running for when i need to do something NOW.

i'll probably develop some "serious" projects in PT but will continue to use GB for my sketch-pad in songwriting/arranging ... so quick and easy i can practically work at the speed of thought.

as for Logic, i've got a copy but never could warm up to the interface ... YMMV! there's a lot of love for Logic in these here parts ....

Skully · May 14th, 2008, 12:58 PM

I use Sonar. I don't think ProTools is necessarily "better," but it's what you need to know how to use if you want to work in the recording industry, simply because it's what all the big studios have. If you have no such aspirations, I wouldn't feel any special obligation to use it.

bobthecanadian · May 14th, 2008, 01:28 PM

Yup, I am another SONAR user. I find it pretty straight ahead and am able to get things done quickly.

Cubase, Pro Tools and Logic are all very good programs. If you are doing a lot between different studios, then go Pro Tools.

Daddydex · May 14th, 2008, 05:33 PM

Let me be the first to recommend Reaper. Can't beat the price and can do everything all the big players do.

Dan

Tim Armstrong · May 14th, 2008, 08:53 PM

They're working on a Mac version of Reaper, but it isn't out yet.

I sure do dig it on my PC, though!

I'd probably go with Logic if I had a Mac...

Cheers, Tim

graphs · May 14th, 2008, 09:39 PM

if you've got a macbook, using Logic is the way to go. installing is a breeze because they're made for each other! and no proprietary hardware issues like with ProTools.

woodman · May 15th, 2008, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by graphs

proprietary hardware issues like with ProTools.

yeah, in ProTools, you're subject to that dictatorship. anything you upgrade is subject to a lot of hardware and software issues. but as many in this thread have implied, PT is the lingua franca among studio types in regard to file exchange. if you wanna get into the industry, it's a survival skill.

but it ain't easy and it ain't cheap.

octatonic · May 15th, 2008, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rodeo_joel

What's your guys's preferences?

I like the idea of Pro Tools cuz i know someday i'd like to get involved with the music industry in one or more areas and i know lots of big-time studios like using pro tools. Hopefully it might prepare me a bit for what's to come.

Cheers,
Joel

I'm probably classed as a mid-sized studio.
I have Protools HD and Logic as my main DAW's.

May 14th, 2008, 02:33 AM	#1 (permalink)
rodeo_joel Tele-Holic Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Calgary, Alberta Age: 21 Posts: 542	For All You Home-Studio/Recorders Out There - Cubase or Pro Tools? I've been having a lot of driver issues with my old version of Cubase SE 1 on my Macbook Pro. OSX Leopard just seems to have a lot of driver and compatibility issues with old stuff like that. Anyways, i'm thinking of upgrading to a newer and (hopefully) less troublesome program. Seriously considering Pro Tools. What's your guys's preferences? I like the idea of Pro Tools cuz i know someday i'd like to get involved with the music industry in one or more areas and i know lots of big-time studios like using pro tools. Hopefully it might prepare me a bit for what's to come. Cheers, Joel __________________

May 14th, 2008, 03:09 AM	#2 (permalink)
Jackson Jackson Tele-Meister Join Date: May 2006 Location: Portland, OR Age: 35 Posts: 354	Having used both in a professional setting, Cubase for two years and Pro Tools for 7+....Pro Tools, hands down. __________________ myspace.com/jacksonBjackson trixiestudios.com

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mudbean Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: SoCal Semi-Desert Semi-Paradise Age: 49 Posts: 1,721	Well, Pro Tools is the "name brand." mud __________________ www.mudbean.com "Do ya want it to be interesting, or do ya want it to be true?" "So far, it's neither."

May 14th, 2008, 03:48 AM	#4 (permalink)
getbent Moderator Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Benito County, California Posts: 10,137 37 Photos	Joel, I saw your thread about drum software... if you are student, you can get logic really inexpensively AND it includes drum software... along with great amp software etc... otherwise, I guess protools.... or even digital performer or nuendo before cubase. __________________ 'never pet a burning dog'

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Poppatwang Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 1,887 13 Photos	Academic version of Logic out there too. Apple bought E-Magic so Logic is an Apple program now. So it's happy on a Mac. If you've used GarageBand, that's a truncated version of Logic. Similar work flow. __________________ The Dieselfitters http://www.dieselfitters.com Roy Hubbs http://www.royhubbs.com

May 14th, 2008, 11:17 AM	#7 (permalink)
Arlo Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Maine [in a van down by the river] Age: 50 Posts: 2,332	Tools LE is not compatible with Leopard yet from what I hear. Logic Studio is one deal that I couldn't even pass up. It has everything and does everything and is compatible with Leopard. I love Logic but I love Tools too. Probably Logic like Bent said is your best bet and friendliest to the wallet for now. From Digidesign: Mac OS X Requirements with Pro Tools 6 & 7 Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) Compatibility Information Pro Tools LE®, Pro Tools M-Powered™, Pro Tools\|HD PCI (not PCIe) systems, older Intel-based Mac Pro computers, and Avid video peripherals are currently not compatible with the Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)* operating system. From Logic: http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/ Logic Pro 8.0.1 addresses specific customer issues and improves Leopard compatibility of Logic Pro 8.0. It includes Waveburner 1.5.1 and Impulse Response Utility 1.0.1 __________________ My music? It is free for my friends.

May 14th, 2008, 11:58 AM	#8 (permalink)
woodman Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mint Hill, NC Age: 62 Posts: 5,958	a good friend has parked his ProTools rig at my studio while he's out of the country for an extended spell ... the awesomeness of its potential is exceeded only by the steep learning curve! i'm feeling my way through and am determined to master it, since it's kind of an industry standard, but i'm keeping my Garageband system up and running for when i need to do something NOW. i'll probably develop some "serious" projects in PT but will continue to use GB for my sketch-pad in songwriting/arranging ... so quick and easy i can practically work at the speed of thought. as for Logic, i've got a copy but never could warm up to the interface ... YMMV! there's a lot of love for Logic in these here parts .... __________________ Truth is stranger than fact ... www.myspace.com/woodymitchellmusic BAND PAGES: www.myspace.com/stragglerswing (Stragglers - Western Swing) www.myspace.com/loafersgloryband (Loafers Glory - '70s country-rock)

May 14th, 2008, 12:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
Skully Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Glamorous NoHo Posts: 3,987	I use Sonar. I don't think ProTools is necessarily "better," but it's what you need to know how to use if you want to work in the recording industry, simply because it's what all the big studios have. If you have no such aspirations, I wouldn't feel any special obligation to use it. __________________ Myspace.com/skullysounds

May 14th, 2008, 01:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
bobthecanadian Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Taipei, Taiwan Age: 42 Posts: 1,539	Yup, I am another SONAR user. I find it pretty straight ahead and am able to get things done quickly. Cubase, Pro Tools and Logic are all very good programs. If you are doing a lot between different studios, then go Pro Tools. __________________ It don't mean a thang if it ain't got that TWANG!!!

May 14th, 2008, 05:33 PM	#11 (permalink)
Daddydex Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,722	Let me be the first to recommend Reaper. Can't beat the price and can do everything all the big players do. Dan __________________ Teles are like Mr. Potato head

May 14th, 2008, 08:53 PM	#12 (permalink)
Tim Armstrong Moderator Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Berlin, Maryland, USA Age: 49 Posts: 9,654	They're working on a Mac version of Reaper, but it isn't out yet. I sure do dig it on my PC, though! I'd probably go with Logic if I had a Mac... Cheers, Tim __________________ http://www.moodswingers.org

May 14th, 2008, 09:39 PM	#13 (permalink)
graphs Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,048	if you've got a macbook, using Logic is the way to go. installing is a breeze because they're made for each other! and no proprietary hardware issues like with ProTools.