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Old August 3rd, 2012, 01:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Les Paul Jr. on Pawn Stars show not a '56 !
I was watching one of those ridiculous reality shows, Auction Kings, yesterday, and they showed a guy with a Les Paul Jr. , the tobacco sunburst, single cutaway with P90 in bridge position one....and on the show they're saying it's a 1956.
OK....so, they show the back of the head stock and the serial number is stamped on the back of the headstock, plain as day.
So, I dialed up the Guitar Dater Project for Gibsons and punch in the number and it comes back, Made In Kalamazoo ...(not much doubt about that) and made between 1965-1968 !!
The number on the back of the headstock is 511858(the last 8 is almost looks like a three but I ran that # and it comes back the same years made).
A lot of showbiz and no accurate info and it would've been so easy.
Instead of showing some retarded "expert" checking the guitar out and not once looking at the serial number, make a big deal about how smart a pawn shop owner you are by knowing how to go online and check serial numbers!
Same drama but better info cause I'm sure I'm not the only one who saw that full screen shot of the back of the headstock and said "oh, really?...let's see about that !..."

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Old August 3rd, 2012, 01:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm confused.... Which show was it on? Pawn Stars or Auction Kings?
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Old August 3rd, 2012, 02:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Something is wrong, because there were literally no Les Paul Juniors of any kind made in the years 65-68. Gibson finally reissued the Goldtop in '68, but no Juniors. I used to call Gibson regularly and ask them to reissue the Junior, but it took them years, probably until the '80s.
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Old August 3rd, 2012, 02:17 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Well I went to the guitardaterproject.org, typed in that number, added "stamped on the back of the headstock" and it came up with 1955 in Kalamazoo.

It seems you selected "Impressed into back of heastock"
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Old August 3rd, 2012, 03:44 PM   #5 (permalink)
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You have the inacurate information not the show... karma.
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Old August 3rd, 2012, 03:44 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I was watching one of those ridiculous reality shows, Auction Kings, yesterday, and they showed a guy with a Les Paul Jr. , the tobacco sunburst, single cutaway with P90 in bridge position one....and on the show they're saying it's a 1956.
OK....so, they show the back of the head stock and the serial number is stamped on the back of the headstock, plain as day.
So, I dialed up the Guitar Dater Project for Gibsons and punch in the number and it comes back, Made In Kalamazoo ...(not much doubt about that) and made between 1965-1968 !!
That Guitar Dater project thing is a complete joke and I have no idea why anybody uses it for anything.



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A lot of showbiz and no accurate info and it would've been so easy.
Instead of showing some retarded "expert" checking the guitar out and not once looking at the serial number, make a big deal about how smart a pawn shop owner you are by knowing how to go online and check serial numbers!
See above. That site is so damned inaccurate that Gibson warns about it on their website!
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Old August 3rd, 2012, 06:41 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I think you may be wrong, not the show. You could always email Gibson
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Old August 3rd, 2012, 08:15 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I'm confused.... Which show was it on? Pawn Stars or Auction Kings?
I'm sayin...

Oh Jim, it's alright we all have our moments. Shake it off man.
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Old August 3rd, 2012, 11:13 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Actually that serial number should be a 1955 model Gibson Les Paul Jr. based on the standard serial numbering scheme from that era.
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Old August 4th, 2012, 07:55 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Pawn Stars usually has a guy from Cowtown Guitars. I wouldn't doubt him. I'm not sure about Auction Kings though?
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Old August 4th, 2012, 08:28 AM   #11 (permalink)
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That Guitar Dater project thing is a complete joke and I have no idea why anybody uses it for anything.





See above. That site is so damned inaccurate that Gibson warns about it on their website!
Colchar's right, it give inaccurate information all the time.
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Old August 4th, 2012, 08:37 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Pawn Stars usually has a guy from Cowtown Guitars. I wouldn't doubt him. I'm not sure about Auction Kings though?
The Cowtown guy knows his guitars?
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Old August 4th, 2012, 09:04 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Is that the place that took their Les Paul Custom in to Pawn Stars,and were called in to value it themselves ?
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Is that the place that took their Les Paul Custom in to Pawn Stars,and were called in to value it themselves ?
Yeah, the Cowtown Les Paul debacle. That was a real joke. Here's the rundown:

http://centraltendencies.com/2011/03...stars-is-fake/
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aren't all of those shows scripted anyways...?
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Old August 4th, 2012, 02:47 PM   #16 (permalink)
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No,Rick has millions of expert friends,his shop only allows one person in at a time and the only stuff he buys is of major historical importance.Same as all the rest. i mean yes.
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aren't all of those shows scripted anyways...?
Yeah, they're (all of those "reality" shows are getting called out for it) now being referred to as "actuality" television shows.
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Old August 4th, 2012, 08:31 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Today's lesson is don't take TV seriously. Honestly, these shows aren't any worse than 3's Company was, but at least the Networks didn't try to pass that one off as real.
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