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Old July 27th, 2012, 08:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Epiphone sheraton ii

I'm really tempted to pull the trigger on a used epi Sheraton ii and swap the pups as soon as I do. Can anyone vouch for this axe? I play through a blues jr. With an eminence cannabis Rex. Thx! Pictures too Plz

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Old July 27th, 2012, 09:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have a Sheraton I got brand new last summer. The only work it needed was some fret polishing and a set up. I also installed some strap locks, but otherwise it has been a very reliable, versatile, and good sounding guitar. Its fundamental plugged in sound is on the dark side, but amp EQ always compensates for this. I have a Roland Cube 80XL that it sounds fantastic with and I just played it at a studio session through a '65 Deluxe Reverb RI and a Vox AC30 head + Orange 4x12" through which it also excelled.
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Old July 27th, 2012, 11:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I have had my eye on one of these as well. There is no such thing as an inexpensive Gibson 335 which is a sad thing. I really wish there was a model under $1K. I have a mid 90's Epi Les Paul Limited Edition that I've had for about 14 years now and its been a good solid guitar.

I would probably put in a set of Seymour Duncan Seth Lovers if I was to pull the trigger and buy one.
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Old July 28th, 2012, 01:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I say go for it. I bought a used one several months ago that already had Gibson 57 Classics installed. Sounded great, but the frets were a bit uneven and I hated the gold hardware. I had my tech do a level/crown, replace all of the hardware with chrome bits (including a Gotoh bridge) and upgraded the switch and jack. The guitar now plays as good as it sounds, and looks great too, IMO. I play it all the time and love it. All told, I'm probably into the guitar for less than 1/2 of what a used 335 would cost. FWIW, my guitar teacher has a beautiful 335 and played my Sheraton and said it was just as good, if not better, than his Gibson. He may have been blowing smoke for my benefit, but with the upgrades, I'm no longer GASsing for the Gibson. The only negative is that Epiphone headstock. Blech! But I'm getting used to it.

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Old July 28th, 2012, 01:25 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I'm really tempted to pull the trigger on a used epi Sheraton ii and swap the pups as soon as I do. Can anyone vouch for this axe? I play through a blues jr. With an eminence cannabis Rex. Thx! Pictures too Plz
Besides the Casino, the Sheraton is the most used workhorse of the Epiphone boxes. It's an incredibly consistent guitar and you may actually do fine with stock pickups but have an amazing guitar with the pups of your choice.

Some Epis are considered underpowered so there are a lot of choices out there. I think SD Pearly Gates with '59 neck are what I would use.

If not that much power, then '59 bridge and Jazz neck.

For DiMarzio, PAF pro bridge and PAF in neck, or dual Air Classics for a really transparent, vintage sound.

If you want a keeper for life, Lollars can make your guitar sound better than any stock Gibson semi.
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Old July 29th, 2012, 04:24 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Had my sheraton for over 16 years and it's still my go to guitar.
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Old July 29th, 2012, 08:16 AM   #7 (permalink)
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They're great guitars. I have a natural finish one and the neck is lovely.

I'm a compulsive meddler so I've spent quite a while getting mine set up just right. If there was anything I didn't like about the pickups, I would have replaced them by now, but there isn't. If you get a Sheraton, give the stock p'ups a fair go before you take them out - I think they're excellent.
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Old July 29th, 2012, 09:45 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I was well impressed by the one I played.
But I have got the feeling that they are quite variable, so you must try it before you buy it.

Why on earth would you want to change the pickups?
I only replaced the Classic 57s in my Joe Pass because they were faulty.

Historically the Epi Sheraton was the up-market version of the Gibson 335, not the poor cousin.
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Old July 29th, 2012, 09:53 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I picked one last last year that had the p/u's replaced with 57 classics. It's a great guitar. I can compare it to an Epiphone Dot from the same vintage (mid 2000's) and it feels a lot better, the build quality is a little better. I sold the Dot and kept the Sheraton II. FWIW.

If the Sheratons come stock with the same pickups as the Dot I would certainly play it a bit before I decided to change them out as the Dot wasn't too bad. They are Alnico. It's the wiring that is the week spot - the switch especially - not the pickups but for as much of a pain in the ass replacing the electronics are or how much your tech is going to charge to do it you might as well swap the pickups out at the same time if you are going to do it.
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Sheraton IIs are great guitars.
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Old July 29th, 2012, 03:55 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I picked one last last year that had the p/u's replaced with 57 classics. It's a great guitar. I can compare it to an Epiphone Dot from the same vintage (mid 2000's) and it feels a lot better, the build quality is a little better. I sold the Dot and kept the Sheraton II. FWIW.

If the Sheratons come stock with the same pickups as the Dot I would certainly play it a bit before I decided to change them out as the Dot wasn't too bad. They are Alnico. It's the wiring that is the week spot - the switch especially - not the pickups but for as much of a pain in the ass replacing the electronics are or how much your tech is going to charge to do it you might as well swap the pickups out at the same time if you are going to do it.
AFAIA the Dot, Sheraton, Joe Pass, and LP/SG/other-Epis all share the same pickups - the Gibson-by-Epiphone Classic 57, as stated by the sticker on the bottom of the pickups. One of mine had an assembly fault in that the pole screws were only threaded into wax potting, wrong steel plate below, since fixed and now lives happily in an Ibanez.

Stock pickups actually quite good, if it ain't bust don't fix it.
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Old July 30th, 2012, 10:03 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I've got one, too, and I like it a lot. I play it through a Mustang III every week with our band, and all the guys like it, too. Solid, reliable, easy to play, sounds good on pretty much any tune we play. I see no reason to change pickups on it - when I start to feel that way about any guitar I'm using, I just switch guitars for awhile and that seems to scratch that itch. But so far I've never felt that way about the Sheraton.
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