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Old July 11th, 2012, 03:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Lap Steel Guitar -- The Dark Side beckons...

My bandmate Jamie (blargfromspace) has lent me his 8 string lap steel.
I fooled around with it a little (C6 tuning is seriously unusual for a Mongolian stringbender guitarist...) and got nowhere until last night.

I plugged in my Vox Amplug, dialled in some "screamin' Lindley", jacked in my mp3 player and was tooling along with Alejandro Escovedo's "It About This Love" when it began to make sense-- where the minor 3rd is in relation to the major triads etc. I could even make some coherent little improv bits, as I began to "see" where the next note was.
It was pretty loose and messy, but when it sounded good it was goosebump-y good. Then I began to get my head around how I have to slant the steel...

Hmmm...

A pedal-steel playing friend said it was a 15 year trip.
5 years to learn the instrument,
5 years to make it sound sweet, and
5 years to get out of the institution.

I'm a little concerned.
Is this the end of normality for me?

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Old July 11th, 2012, 03:24 AM   #2 (permalink)
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One-time Saturday Night Live guitarist G.E. Smith has a new Youtube video out about his new signature Tele, and he makes a great case for a direct relationship between Teles and early Fender lap steels--via the bridge pickup. Very interesting.
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Old July 11th, 2012, 04:55 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I stay with a six string lap - eight would send me over the edge....

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Old July 11th, 2012, 08:42 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I used to be like you. A few months ago I had a friend's pedal steel for the weekend, considered buying it. I was looking at myself in the mirror, going, AM I A STEELER!?!?!?!

.. then, last sunday, I went to a brunch gig where there was a pedal steeler and his VERY softly singing girlfriend... It was three hours of basically solo pedal steel, and I forced myself to stay for all of it. Now I'm cured of the steel sickness!

Of course he'd probably only been playing for about 10 years!
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Old July 11th, 2012, 08:58 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I've made some changes since this first one... but the idea is still the same.

Abe said where ya' want this killin' done, God said out on hwy 61.
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Old July 11th, 2012, 01:07 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I'm a little concerned.
Is this the end of normality for me?
Yes. Now that you've realized you can do it, you will never recover. Things will never be the same.



Other recent steel guitar discussions in this forum:

The Steel Guitar Thread

thinking about trying to learn to play pedal steel. Where to begin?

best lap steel slide

Aaaand there's a Steel Guitar Club thread in the Guitar Owners Clubs forum.
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Old July 11th, 2012, 04:59 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Old July 11th, 2012, 05:44 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Welcome to the fun! Lapsteel is a kick!
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Old July 11th, 2012, 07:28 PM   #9 (permalink)
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You should provide some links to your incredible lap steels! If you don't,,,,,, I will!
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Old July 11th, 2012, 07:53 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I've been doing Hendrix and Muddy covers down the pub with this rig..........

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Old July 11th, 2012, 07:55 PM   #11 (permalink)
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jmiles is that last one a New Yorker model of some kind? Looks so great.

The first one I ever bought was in an antique store long ago. It didn't play, and used the old screw on type plug which was unsoldered... $20 later I had it at home and it got me going. No net then so it took awhile to figure out zactlee what I had. The Dlx 8 is pretty nifty but the Supros and Nat'ls scream.
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Old July 11th, 2012, 09:49 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The first guitar is a Tele with a Lapdancer square neck conversion.
The second is an Orpheum, which has light bulbs inside that light up the fingerboard.
The third is a very special custom-ordered Gibson D-7. Probably a '39.
The fourth is a Monkey/Wards Airline Rocket/ Valco product. I'd get studio calls for pedal steel, but I always took the Rocket. Artists. producers, and engineers always said, "We gotta hear that thing!." Used a lot!
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Old July 11th, 2012, 10:04 PM   #13 (permalink)
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You guys are a bad influence...

I see we share a surname, jmiles.
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I'm working on a lap steel design and template right now for my next project, but I get so intimidated every time I look at anything built by Tom Pettingill!!! What a true artist!
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Miles is my middle name. A most honorable name indeed!
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Old July 12th, 2012, 05:36 PM   #16 (permalink)
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But bad in a good way

Here is a fun one from a while back, a Teardrop in black walnut and quilt maple.

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"jmiles is that last one a New Yorker model of some kind? Looks so great."

Nope. Just a Valco/National Monkey Ward's Airline Rocket. Awesome guitar!
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Old July 12th, 2012, 06:39 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Old July 12th, 2012, 08:08 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Oh! Don't get me started into resos and lapsteels! Chandler?
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Old July 12th, 2012, 09:44 PM   #20 (permalink)
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^ Chandler steel my wife bought me or Christmas several yrs ago.
The dobro is an inexpensive Regal. I put in a Quarterman cone, and a better bridge and spider.
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