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Gary in Boston · February 5th, 2013, 10:15 PM

Hello all,

Not a guitar question but I thought I'd ask here because I'll bet somebody here would know.

The sonf Jack & Diane has a longer version I've heard that has a ton of drumming in it. The drumming is really great, and promanent. In fact the whole song is full of great drumming. I can't find it in all music .com etc

I'm hoping somebody here will know the answer because I'd like to get a copy of it .

Thanks

Gary

getbent · February 5th, 2013, 10:20 PM

Kenny Aaronoff is the drummer.

maybe this version?

TeleKato · February 5th, 2013, 10:48 PM

Ah, a trip down memory lane seeing that 'John Cougar.'

We used to motor our boat over and cruise his house on Lake Monroe, playing that song. We wondered how quickly he'd gotten tired of idiots like us.

Much love for ya, Johnny Hoosier. Much love.

Gary in Boston · February 7th, 2013, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by getbent

Kenny Aaronoff is the drummer.

maybe this version?

No actually there is a version of this song that has an incredible drum intro as well as sevral drum breaks through out. Plus some variations on the instrumentation in the song. Allot bigger / stadium / rock rally it's still John "Cogar" Mellencamp but more of a Rock Opera

Anybody out there?

Gary

Mike Eskimo · February 7th, 2013, 11:06 PM

Are you thinking of "I need a lover" ?

You mean he has another song like that ?

I really liked his Big Daddy record but the recent movie/special/doc about him confirmed his massive eccentricity.

Seems faaaar removed from a regular guy.

Maybe that's why the Meg Ryan thing happened - birds of a feather...

hekawi · February 8th, 2013, 12:06 AM

"Are you thinking of "I need a lover" ?"

i'll bet he is. the instrumental intro, with plenty of drums, is 2:30 long before the vocals come in, then there is a very cool drum part at about 4:25

JayBeezy42 · February 8th, 2013, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by getbent

Kenny Aaronoff is the drummer.

maybe this version?

I'm not sure why it's being called a "long version"... That's the album version. Was it edited down for radio?

hekawi · February 8th, 2013, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary in Boston

Hello all,

Not a guitar question but I thought I'd ask here because I'll bet somebody here would know.

The sonf Jack & Diane has a longer version I've heard that has a ton of drumming in it. The drumming is really great, and promanent. In fact the whole song is full of great drumming. I can't find it in all music .com etc

I'm hoping somebody here will know the answer because I'd like to get a copy of it .

Thanks

Gary

After some thinking, that version of Jack & Diane rang a bell with me after all. I checked back in my archives and sure enough in my vast collection of music on my portable hard drive, I have a version of it called the "spiral tribe extended mix". Check your personal e-mail Gary, I have sent something along to you.

For those of you interested, i also found it on the web if you'd like a listen:

http://magnum71mixes.blogspot.com/20...and-diane.html

Gary in Boston · February 8th, 2013, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hekawi

After some thinking, that version of Jack & Diane rang a bell with me after all. I checked back in my archives and sure enough in my vast collection of music on my portable hard drive, I have a version of it called the "spiral tribe extended mix". Check your personal e-mail Gary, I have sent something along to you.

For those of you interested, i also found it on the web if you'd like a listen:

http://magnum71mixes.blogspot.com/20...and-diane.html

Hey there I saw no message in my personal Email I do hope the Spiral tribe extended mix is that cut

Can you resend ?

Gary

hekawi · February 8th, 2013, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary in Boston

Hey there I saw no message in my personal Email I do hope the Spiral tribe extended mix is that cut

Can you resend ?

Gary

i just resent. is your personal email the still one listed in your tdpri profile? the attachment i sent might be too large to go through.

if it doesn't reach you, google the version of Jack & Diane that is 6:19 long.

DrumBob · February 9th, 2013, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Eskimo

Seems faaaar removed from a regular guy. Maybe that's why the Meg Ryan thing happened - birds of a feather...

You're right. Kenny Aronoff told me that Mellencamp is one of the most intense human beings he's ever known. Very hard to deal with. Kenny was always playing politics with John, and Kenny made those records happen. Ever notice how Mellencamp never had another hit after Kenny left the band?

Brett Fuzz · February 9th, 2013, 07:00 AM

A covers band I was in years ago did a couple of John's songs.

"Small Town' was one of them. As the drummer, I had to put a bit more effort & technique into those songs after the usual 'run of the mill' setlist.

Kept me awake !

elihu · February 11th, 2013, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrumBob

You're right. Kenny Aronoff told me that Mellencamp is one of the most intense human beings he's ever known. Very hard to deal with. Kenny was always playing politics with John, and Kenny made those records happen. Ever notice how Mellencamp never had another hit after Kenny left the band?

Not sure exactly what your definition of hit is but Mellencamp had other songs that charted without Kenny. One example being....

• Song: "Your Life Is Now" | Album: John Mellencamp (1998)
#19 Adult Contemporary / #23 Adult Top 40 / #15 Mainstream Rock Tracks / #39 Top 40 Mainstream

SirJackdeFuzz · February 14th, 2013, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hekawi

After some thinking, that version of Jack & Diane rang a bell with me after all. I checked back in my archives and sure enough in my vast collection of music on my portable hard drive, I have a version of it called the "spiral tribe extended mix". Check your personal e-mail Gary, I have sent something along to you.

For those of you interested, i also found it on the web if you'd like a listen:

http://magnum71mixes.blogspot.com/20...and-diane.html

Thanks for the link hekawi.

Another Mellencamp fan here

Gazman163 · February 14th, 2013, 04:15 AM

Agreed "The Aronoff Years" were his best. Key West Intermezzo (I Saw You First) a post Kenny song and was a hit. IMO one of the best songs he's composed

blowtorch · February 14th, 2013, 11:56 AM

Is Aronoff the cat who was responsible for all the cool Stones-ey rhythms in a lot of the earlier stuff, and the crazy falling-off-a-cliff sounds on tunes like "When The Walls Come Tumblin' Down"? If so, my hat off to him, that's some great playing

Doug 54 · February 14th, 2013, 12:28 PM

KA IS great.

Grad of Indiana University school of music too

blowtorch · February 14th, 2013, 12:51 PM

Also , if that's him, he quoted the "Footloose" riff in "The Authority Song", which may seem lame today, but that Footloose thing was huge right at that time. Genius

February 5th, 2013, 10:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
Gary in Boston Friend of Leo's Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,192	John Mellencamp Hello all, Not a guitar question but I thought I'd ask here because I'll bet somebody here would know. The sonf Jack & Diane has a longer version I've heard that has a ton of drumming in it. The drumming is really great, and promanent. In fact the whole song is full of great drumming. I can't find it in all music .com etc I'm hoping somebody here will know the answer because I'd like to get a copy of it . Thanks Gary

February 5th, 2013, 10:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
getbent Super Moderator Telefied Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Benito County, California Posts: 25,208 37 Photos	Kenny Aaronoff is the drummer. maybe this version? __________________ The world is an amazing place. Go poke a whale." nickjd

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TeleKato Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Silver Spring, MD Age: 55 Posts: 2,140	Ah, a trip down memory lane seeing that 'John Cougar.' We used to motor our boat over and cruise his house on Lake Monroe, playing that song. We wondered how quickly he'd gotten tired of idiots like us. Much love for ya, Johnny Hoosier. Much love. __________________ . One God, that I can understand; but one Tele? That is not civilized. It is not generous! Caution: This post is caveated by the fact the Poster may be, in actuality, a MRON.

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Mike Eskimo Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Detroit Posts: 6,290	Are you thinking of "I need a lover" ? You mean he has another song like that ? I really liked his Big Daddy record but the recent movie/special/doc about him confirmed his massive eccentricity. Seems faaaar removed from a regular guy. Maybe that's why the Meg Ryan thing happened - birds of a feather... __________________ Geeshie Wiley is my co-pilot

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Brett Fuzz Tele-Holic Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 52 Posts: 543	A covers band I was in years ago did a couple of John's songs. "Small Town' was one of them. As the drummer, I had to put a bit more effort & technique into those songs after the usual 'run of the mill' setlist. Kept me awake !

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Gazman163 Tele-Meister Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wamberal NSW Australia Posts: 153	Agreed "The Aronoff Years" were his best. Key West Intermezzo (I Saw You First) a post Kenny song and was a hit. IMO one of the best songs he's composed __________________ "I'd welcome the stars with wine and guitars full of fire & forgetful" Townes Van Zandt

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blowtorch Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2003 Location: Wisco Posts: 4,304	Is Aronoff the cat who was responsible for all the cool Stones-ey rhythms in a lot of the earlier stuff, and the crazy falling-off-a-cliff sounds on tunes like "When The Walls Come Tumblin' Down"? If so, my hat off to him, that's some great playing

February 14th, 2013, 12:28 PM	#17 (permalink)
Doug 54 Friend of Leo's Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,778	KA IS great. Grad of Indiana University school of music too __________________ . KENNY POWERS for Precedent !!

February 14th, 2013, 12:51 PM	#18 (permalink)
blowtorch Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2003 Location: Wisco Posts: 4,304	Also , if that's him, he quoted the "Footloose" riff in "The Authority Song", which may seem lame today, but that Footloose thing was huge right at that time. Genius

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