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Old February 5th, 2013, 11:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello all,

Not a guitar question but I thought I'd ask here because I'll bet somebody here would know.

The sonf Jack & Diane has a longer version I've heard that has a ton of drumming in it. The drumming is really great, and promanent. In fact the whole song is full of great drumming. I can't find it in all music .com etc

I'm hoping somebody here will know the answer because I'd like to get a copy of it .

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Old February 5th, 2013, 11:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Kenny Aaronoff is the drummer.

maybe this version?

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Old February 5th, 2013, 11:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Ah, a trip down memory lane seeing that 'John Cougar.'

We used to motor our boat over and cruise his house on Lake Monroe, playing that song. We wondered how quickly he'd gotten tired of idiots like us.

Much love for ya, Johnny Hoosier. Much love.
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Old February 7th, 2013, 11:19 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Kenny Aaronoff is the drummer.

maybe this version?

No actually there is a version of this song that has an incredible drum intro as well as sevral drum breaks through out. Plus some variations on the instrumentation in the song. Allot bigger / stadium / rock rally it's still John "Cogar" Mellencamp but more of a Rock Opera

Anybody out there?

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Old February 8th, 2013, 12:06 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Are you thinking of "I need a lover" ?

You mean he has another song like that ?

I really liked his Big Daddy record but the recent movie/special/doc about him confirmed his massive eccentricity.

Seems faaaar removed from a regular guy.

Maybe that's why the Meg Ryan thing happened - birds of a feather...
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"Are you thinking of "I need a lover" ?"

i'll bet he is. the instrumental intro, with plenty of drums, is 2:30 long before the vocals come in, then there is a very cool drum part at about 4:25

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Kenny Aaronoff is the drummer.

maybe this version?

I'm not sure why it's being called a "long version"... That's the album version. Was it edited down for radio?
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Old February 8th, 2013, 05:36 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Hello all,

Not a guitar question but I thought I'd ask here because I'll bet somebody here would know.

The sonf Jack & Diane has a longer version I've heard that has a ton of drumming in it. The drumming is really great, and promanent. In fact the whole song is full of great drumming. I can't find it in all music .com etc

I'm hoping somebody here will know the answer because I'd like to get a copy of it .

Thanks

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After some thinking, that version of Jack & Diane rang a bell with me after all. I checked back in my archives and sure enough in my vast collection of music on my portable hard drive, I have a version of it called the "spiral tribe extended mix". Check your personal e-mail Gary, I have sent something along to you.

For those of you interested, i also found it on the web if you'd like a listen:

http://magnum71mixes.blogspot.com/20...and-diane.html
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Old February 8th, 2013, 07:33 PM   #9 (permalink)
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After some thinking, that version of Jack & Diane rang a bell with me after all. I checked back in my archives and sure enough in my vast collection of music on my portable hard drive, I have a version of it called the "spiral tribe extended mix". Check your personal e-mail Gary, I have sent something along to you.

For those of you interested, i also found it on the web if you'd like a listen:

http://magnum71mixes.blogspot.com/20...and-diane.html
Hey there I saw no message in my personal Email I do hope the Spiral tribe extended mix is that cut

Can you resend ?

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Hey there I saw no message in my personal Email I do hope the Spiral tribe extended mix is that cut

Can you resend ?

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i just resent. is your personal email the still one listed in your tdpri profile? the attachment i sent might be too large to go through.

if it doesn't reach you, google the version of Jack & Diane that is 6:19 long.
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Seems faaaar removed from a regular guy. Maybe that's why the Meg Ryan thing happened - birds of a feather...
You're right. Kenny Aronoff told me that Mellencamp is one of the most intense human beings he's ever known. Very hard to deal with. Kenny was always playing politics with John, and Kenny made those records happen. Ever notice how Mellencamp never had another hit after Kenny left the band?
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A covers band I was in years ago did a couple of John's songs.

"Small Town' was one of them. As the drummer, I had to put a bit more effort & technique into those songs after the usual 'run of the mill' setlist.

Kept me awake !
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You're right. Kenny Aronoff told me that Mellencamp is one of the most intense human beings he's ever known. Very hard to deal with. Kenny was always playing politics with John, and Kenny made those records happen. Ever notice how Mellencamp never had another hit after Kenny left the band?
Not sure exactly what your definition of hit is but Mellencamp had other songs that charted without Kenny. One example being....

Song: "Your Life Is Now" | Album: John Mellencamp (1998)
#19 Adult Contemporary / #23 Adult Top 40 / #15 Mainstream Rock Tracks / #39 Top 40 Mainstream

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After some thinking, that version of Jack & Diane rang a bell with me after all. I checked back in my archives and sure enough in my vast collection of music on my portable hard drive, I have a version of it called the "spiral tribe extended mix". Check your personal e-mail Gary, I have sent something along to you.

For those of you interested, i also found it on the web if you'd like a listen:

http://magnum71mixes.blogspot.com/20...and-diane.html


Thanks for the link hekawi.

Another Mellencamp fan here


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Agreed "The Aronoff Years" were his best. Key West Intermezzo (I Saw You First) a post Kenny song and was a hit. IMO one of the best songs he's composed
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Is Aronoff the cat who was responsible for all the cool Stones-ey rhythms in a lot of the earlier stuff, and the crazy falling-off-a-cliff sounds on tunes like "When The Walls Come Tumblin' Down"? If so, my hat off to him, that's some great playing
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KA IS great.

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Old February 14th, 2013, 01:51 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Also , if that's him, he quoted the "Footloose" riff in "The Authority Song", which may seem lame today, but that Footloose thing was huge right at that time. Genius
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