READ HELP US Professor and University wants to analyze Nancy

[Mustafa Umut]

I discovered Darthmouth University and Electrical Engineering Department leader Charles S. Sullivan When I was researching recording a winding process by a laser tracker and remanufacture it with robotic winder and optimizing a winding to a sound recording.

I wrote him a message about the lack of correct and highly detailed analysis of Roy Buchanans Nancy guitar pickups.

Mr. Sullivan is one of the world leader about analysing the windings.

He told me that they have a scanner which can reveal of all hidden secrets of a winding in 3D without harming the pickup.

And he told me they can analyse the pickups very detailed.

He wants to help.

Now I need your help.

How can I make this gentleman get in contact with Roy Buchanan Estate ?

Best ,

Mustafa Umut Sarac

Istanbul

[garytelecastor]

Hey Mustafa-I can't really help you with your request, but I just wanted to say Welcome.

[nasonm]

Same here!

Welcome to the board. If what you say it true (I always assume people I meet on the TDPRI are good people) then this poses a very scientific approach to the old "how do I sound like ________" quest.

Many will say that the true Nancy sound died with Roy, but I'll be following this thread to see how you progress.

Again, Welcome!

[garytelecastor]

I don't know if this will help but there is a poster here who is very well versed on Roy's life and he may be able to help you. Just go to the post below. Click on his name (JoeyV) in the identity window, and you will see you can send him a PM (private message) or email.

http://www.tdpri.com/forum/telecaste...opsasnick.html

[Mustafa Umut]

You can read my posts at cymbalholic.com under zildjian secret.
After years of following , I am good to find correct solutions to the problems.
I hope somebody help me.
Thank you for your kind words.

Best ,

Mustafa Umut Sarac

[Mustafa Umut]

I sent a pm to the person you mentioned.
Thank you.

[fenson]

IMO it would be a waste of time I mean whats the big deal any how they are just stock pups are they not. A person could pick up Roys entire rig and still never make it sound the same as he did.

[Mustafa Umut]

http://thayer.dartmouth.edu/inductor/index.shtml

look at this.

you can not be sure without a analyze. May be it will cost few hundreds but it will make the exact copy of the pickup. It is a rest of mind problem , you know .

[Mustafa Umut]

The correct university name was Dartmouth not Darthmouth.

[tlsmack]

I half way agree with Fenson, but an exact replica of Roy's pickup would be pretty cool. Good luck to Mustafa, and I volunteer to be be a prototype tester.

[e-merlin]

I think ol' Don Mare's done about as much examination of Nancy as anyone is going to get to do. IIRC, he's in touch with the current owner and has been inside.

[claudel]

Originally Posted by e-merlin

I think ol' Don Mare's done about as much examination of Nancy as anyone is going to get to do. IIRC, he's in touch with the current owner and has been inside.

Yup.

Here's his contact info...

http://buckcannon.com/home.html

[stevieboy]

One might consider that the current owner may have paid a lot of money for Nancy, might have some commercial interest in his investment, and may not be interested in having it analyzed for all the world to see.

Just a thought.

Don Mare is the man for Nancy pickups, as said. There aren't all that many people out there who could take the kind of info you're talking about and actually turn it into a real pickup that sounds "right". Don did it with much less info than the professor says he can get with his system.

[e-merlin]

He did it pretty much on instinct and a few basic measurements without a total teardown of Nancy, IIRC. Some people have a feel for the stock market. DM has a feel for pickups. And I don't have a stake in his business. Not even a set of his pickups. But my next set will be from him.

[Mustafa Umut]

I think current owner can make money from the selling of each pickup.
May be it is not the winding quality or alnico quality but the alloy of the copper ? I think this is a possiblity also and one needs to check the alloy and phase with x ray mobile spectrometer as i did to zildjians and publish the result at cymbalholic com .
May be there is a fault at potting ?
I give all my effort to investigate all or I cant sleep well.

Best ,

Mustafa Umut Sarac

[Mark Davis]

There is no secert to roys Nancy its a stock 53 Tele.

[Curly]

I doubt the current owner would sell the pickups, since that would highly devalue the guitar.
I think you are trying to over analyze a problem, when most of the details are known, or can be deduced from known facts.
I agree with Mark ... Nancy had somewhat low output pickups, and was probably a little microphonic, at least in the bridge.

Even if you could hypothetically analyze Nancy, I am VERY skeptical that would lead to as good as, or better results than someone like Don Mare has done through examination, trial and error, and the intuition that comes with years of experience.

I'd suggest that if you are interested in finding details of early teles, you should get a copy of The Blackguard Book.

Originally Posted by Mustafa Umut

I think current owner can make money from the selling of each pickup.
May be it is not the winding quality or alnico quality but the alloy of the copper ?

May be there is a fault at potting ?

[Mustafa Umut]

I wrote to Don Mare also , if he wants to use the new tools , thats good.
Before I analyze a zildjian , everyone was saying , it is B20 but not , totally different story emerged from the scientific analyze.
If someone gives a chance to the professor , i m sure result will be schocking.
I m not believing that the guitars antique price will drop , it is still roy buchanans guitar , still nancy !

Best ,

Mustafa Umut Sarac