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Old January 29th, 2008, 02:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Twisted Tele Neck Pickup

Can this pickup be purchased on its own, or will I have to find someone who is selling one from a guitar? Thanks.

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Old January 30th, 2008, 02:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old January 30th, 2008, 02:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It will not be easy to find used. Two things people seem to crave from this guitar, the neck and the neck pickup. I gave up trying to get them separate and just bought all the Bajas whole I could ever use.


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Old January 30th, 2008, 02:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I heard...

the twisted Tele neck pup is a copy of the Hamel tall neck (?), which is supposedly similar to a pup that Don Mare is now offering. Of course, I might just as easily be totally wrong on this. But I do remember hearing (or reading) something like that somewhere.
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Old January 30th, 2008, 02:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Old January 30th, 2008, 02:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Old January 31st, 2008, 12:14 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I have both the hamel tall neck and Don's Stelly. I prefer the stelly.
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Old January 31st, 2008, 03:18 PM   #8 (permalink)
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The Rio Grande Texas Tallboy has the longer magnet rods as on the Twisted Tele. A very bright, strat-ey sounding neck pickup, but it does not come with a chrome cover.
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Old February 21st, 2008, 05:22 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Twisted Tele neck pickup - I may have one for sale. This may be the wrong place to post this but I was searching to try to find the value of a set of Baja pups. I have a Baja on the way, but I am going to swap out the pups. I had a Desert Sand model but I let my son use it in a trade for a car. I now have a blonde on the way. When I had the desert sand, I was having hum issues at the church where I play so I have decided to give the Dimarzio Area T's a spin.
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Old February 25th, 2008, 10:41 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I got my baja bridge pup on Epay for $30 or 35. I let the neck pup go when it got over $50, and it went for $63. 'Course this is only one example.
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Old February 25th, 2008, 10:51 AM   #11 (permalink)
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re Twisted Tele neck pu's

FWIW, I've looked at the pics of the Twisted Tele pickups that are posted on eBay, most of them I've seen do NOT have the longer magnets, I've seen a few that may have come out of Fender Custom Shop guitars, they do have the longer magnets.
I think this is another case where Fender may have actually used the real Twisted Tele pu's when they released the Baja Tele, and then later swapped to cheaper pickups.
Fender did this with the Classic Player Strats too, at first they had Custom Shop pu's, now they just have some cheaper pu's.

This is not to say that the Baja neck pu's don't sound good, but most if not all of the newer ones don't have the real Twisted Tele neck pu.
My buddy has a Baja that he got new last year, it has the shorter magnets , the neck pu sounds good but I've heard plenty of other Tele neck pu's that I liked just as well.
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Old February 25th, 2008, 11:01 AM   #12 (permalink)
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My John 5 tele was one of the earlier models and it came with the Twisted Tele. It is the best Neck pup I have ever heard in a tele.
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Old February 25th, 2008, 03:41 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I just got a Baja last week and i wholeheartedly agree that it is indeed the best Tele neck pickup ever made!
IMHO, YMMV.
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Old August 1st, 2008, 01:27 AM   #14 (permalink)
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anyone ever tested one of these on a multimeter?

I have one of the taller ones that came on a J5 but have yet to install it. It measures a 5.93k on my multimeter. This seems really low to me. Has anyone else measured this pickup?

How on earth does it stand up to the Enforcer in the J5 bridge?
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Old August 1st, 2008, 05:25 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Twisted Tele neck pickups are wound with 42AWG wire while "traditional" Tele neck pickups are wound with 43AWG. Although its a low reading, its about equal to a traditional 43AWG neck pickup wound to 7k.
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Twisted Tele neck pickups are wound with 42AWG wire while "traditional" Tele neck pickups are wound with 43AWG. Although its a low reading, its about equal to a traditional 43AWG neck pickup wound to 7k.
ah, thats some good info!
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Old August 23rd, 2008, 07:02 AM   #17 (permalink)
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A couple of questions.

I have a twisted tele that came out of a CS Tele a while back that I'd like to put back in one of my guitars but I notice it has black, white and yellow wires and I can't for the life of me remember which is which! How should I wire it?

Secondly has anyone paired this pickup with either a Lollar GVCG bridge or a Budz Purebred?

OK...make it a few questions then! Does anyone happen to know what magnets were used in this pickup?
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Old August 23rd, 2008, 07:38 AM   #18 (permalink)
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What exactly is a twisted Fender pickup?
1)the makeup?
2)the design?
3)the sound?
4)the purpose?

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Old August 24th, 2008, 03:42 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Selling my Baja pickups

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I'm selling my Fender Baja pickups on ebay:
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What exactly is a twisted Fender pickup?
1)the makeup?
2)the design?
3)the sound?
4)the purpose?

Jusy Wondering,
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I'm wondering too - and I have one (well maybe, depending on this long/short magnet business).

Any pics of the long and short magnets? Also, why is it called 'twisted'?
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Old August 24th, 2008, 08:40 PM   #21 (permalink)
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What exactly is a twisted Fender pickup?
1)the makeup?
2)the design?
3)the sound?
4)the purpose?

Jusy Wondering,
thanks
well, the basic idea was to create a Telecaster neck pickup that doesn't have a lot of the common “problems” with more traditional Telecaster neck pickups, specifically: low output and a “muddy” sound. in order to get more output they used taller magnets, for both the increased magnetic strength and to make room for more wire on the bobbin, while for greater clarity they wound the pickup using larger gauge wire (for lower impedence/resistance/whatever, without losing power) and used a more transparent-sounding cover. i don't actually know how tall the magnets are (i read that they're from Jazz Bass pickups, though, if that helps), but the magnet wire is 42 gauge heavy Formvar coated (like on a Stratocaster), rather than the more traditional 43 gauge plain enamel coated, and the cover is made from chrome-plated nickel-silver, rather than the more traditional chrome-plated brass.
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A couple of questions.

I have a twisted tele that came out of a CS Tele a while back that I'd like to put back in one of my guitars but I notice it has black, white and yellow wires and I can't for the life of me remember which is which! How should I wire it?

Secondly has anyone paired this pickup with either a Lollar GVCG bridge or a Budz Purebred?

OK...make it a few questions then! Does anyone happen to know what magnets were used in this pickup?
Bumping..anyone know the wiring scheme?
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Old August 24th, 2008, 09:17 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Here's the diagram for the baja from fender's site... Hope it helps.

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Here's the diagram for the baja from fender's site... Hope it helps.

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I just picked up a used Baja, but the previous owner had swapped out the pickups for Harmonic Designs. Included with the sale was an SD Lil 59 and a tele neck pickup which I can't identify. How could I determine if it's a Twisted Tele pup?
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Old August 27th, 2008, 03:42 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Sounds like what they were trying to do was fix all the things that make a front tele pickup so unique and cool... IMHO...
Hmmm? another case of fixing something that wasn't broken?
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How does these pups compare to the BL Keystones? Are they anything alike?
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Sounds like what they were trying to do was fix all the things that make a front tele pickup so unique and cool... IMHO...
Hmmm? another case of fixing something that wasn't broken?
Naaah, the original Tele neck pickups can have some issues, most notably, muddy tone or at least not as sparkling as they could be. I think that's why people like the Twisted Tele pups. That's also why I'm not crazy about the Stuart Blackguard neck pup. While I'm sure it's true to blackguard Tele specs, it's a bit too dark for my tastes. Personally, I prefer the Harmonic Designs "Chromotone" pickup for vintage sound with added sparkle and punch. I think it'll do everything the twisted Tele neck pup does and maybe more, so it may be good for those of you who can't find those Twisted Tele pups. For a loud, clear, full, Tele pickup, the Harmonic Design "Vintage Plus" is great too, but it's way louder and not as traditional sounding as the "Chromotone" and won't mix as well (volumewise) with vintage output Tele bridge pups. Bottom line is, check out Harmonic Design Tele neck pups if you're looking for a neck pup with added sparkle.
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Sounds like what they were trying to do was fix all the things that make a front tele pickup so unique and cool... IMHO...
Hmmm? another case of fixing something that wasn't broken?
I never really got on with traditional sounding Tele neck pickups - for me the Twisted Tele sounds like they took the best bits of the Strat neck pickup and a Tele neck pickup and blended them perfectly.
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What is the output of these?

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Hello

I have a couple. One is 5.73 and the other is 5.99. I've read on here that these act like a higher output pickup then they actually are because of the thinner gauge wire and taller magnets.
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Sounds like what they were trying to do was fix all the things that make a front tele pickup so unique and cool... IMHO...
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Naaah, the original Tele neck pickups can have some issues, most notably, muddy tone or at least not as sparkling as they could be. I think that's why people like the Twisted Tele pups. That's also why I'm not crazy about the Stuart Blackguard neck pup. While I'm sure it's true to blackguard Tele specs, it's a bit too dark for my tastes.
well, i can kind of see both points of view: i love the classic Telecaster neck pickup tone for what it is, and that combination of a real dark neck pickup with a real bright bridge pickup is part of what makes a Telecaster a Telecaster (and why i don't mind so much when people replace the stock neck pickups for humbuckers, or P-90s, or whatever), but sometimes i'll wish i could get more clarity out of that neck pickup — so i pick up my Stratocaster!

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What is the output of these? What magnets are used??
they use over-sized (taller) AlNiCo 5 magnets, and as far as i can tell most seem to read out at just under 6k on an OHM meter.

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I have a couple. One is 5.73 and the other is 5.99. I've read on here that these act like a higher output pickup then they actually are because of the thinner gauge wire and taller magnets.
actually it's the larger gauge wire, but, yeah, they should have a higher output than a typical Telecaster neck pickup, even though they have a lower resistance (which has nothing to do with output, despite what most people seem to think!)
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I'm just about to finish my thinline partscaster, all that I needed were some sweet PU's, I have a 86 MIJ 62RI that has the tele tone for sure.

So after reading this thread, I picked up a twisted tele neck PU and now I'm looking for it's mate for the bridge PU. I know that this is a subjective and highly contrversal topic, but if you had one what you think it's mate should be.

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I've got the Twisted Tele/Broadcaster mix in my Copper Tele..the Twisted Tele is a very stratty neck tone compared to most Tele neck pickups...I really like it.

My fave bridge pickup though is still the GVCG Lollar A3 in my Blonde Tele.
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I'm thinking that an HD 54 for the bridge position will be a great mate for the Twisted Tele PU.
I've looked at tha Baja Wiring for the twisted tele PU in one of the above posts *bangs head* that doesn't look like the standard 3way switch setup that I have.
I would assume that the yellow and black wiring would remain the same, it's the green wire that's throwing me off. Any thoughts?
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I have a chimy, twangy 60s style pickup in the bridge position, and a stock Am. Std. neck pickup. The 60s pickup is quite a bit more trebly than the stock Am. Std. bridge pup.

Either way, there's a wonderful control on Teles called the Tone knob.

I often have the bridge pup selected and have rolled the tone knob back to 50%-65% and there's plenty of tone. But then when I flick to the neck pickup it sounds muddy.

My 1 second fix?

Roll the tone knob back open again. Clears up the sound great. Open'er right up and it'll sound close to that compressed, snarling and shimmering Strat neck pup sound.

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Naaah, the original Tele neck pickups can have some issues, most notably, muddy tone or at least not as sparkling as they could be. I think that's why people like the Twisted Tele pups.

I had the same problems with my CIJ `71 Tele. A DiMarzio Twang King neck pu - recommended by so many guys on this forum, thanks! - did the trick.
All the clarity of a strat pu, yet warmer and not as hi-fi sounding and with a more singing midrange. The best thing - it`s cheap and readily available! The bridge pu is a Nocaster, a great combination IMO.
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I'd like one of these too...

Does anyone know if you can get a set that sound like the twisted/broadcaster set that you get in the Baja? Even if you've gotta buy them individually?

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While you guys are contemplating the Baja pickups, I'll offer an observation made by me and my Tele playing buddies. The Baja tone circuit sucks tone right out of the pickups (weaker and thinner). The Baja pickups will sound even better when wired in a typical Tele circuit.
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