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Doctor of Teleocity
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: New Orleans, LA + in the past
Posts: 15,212
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It will not be easy to find used. Two things people seem to crave from this guitar, the neck and the neck pickup. I gave up trying to get them separate and just bought all the Bajas whole I could ever use.
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Tele-Afflicted
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I heard...
the twisted Tele neck pup is a copy of the Hamel tall neck (?), which is supposedly similar to a pup that Don Mare is now offering. Of course, I might just as easily be totally wrong on this. But I do remember hearing (or reading) something like that somewhere.
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TDPRI Member
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Cleveland, TN
Age: 51
Posts: 12
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Twisted Tele neck pickup - I may have one for sale. This may be the wrong place to post this but I was searching to try to find the value of a set of Baja pups. I have a Baja on the way, but I am going to swap out the pups. I had a Desert Sand model but I let my son use it in a trade for a car. I now have a blonde on the way. When I had the desert sand, I was having hum issues at the church where I play so I have decided to give the Dimarzio Area T's a spin.
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Friend of Leo's
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Memphis TN
Posts: 2,080
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re Twisted Tele neck pu's
FWIW, I've looked at the pics of the Twisted Tele pickups that are posted on eBay, most of them I've seen do NOT have the longer magnets, I've seen a few that may have come out of Fender Custom Shop guitars, they do have the longer magnets.
I think this is another case where Fender may have actually used the real Twisted Tele pu's when they released the Baja Tele, and then later swapped to cheaper pickups. Fender did this with the Classic Player Strats too, at first they had Custom Shop pu's, now they just have some cheaper pu's. This is not to say that the Baja neck pu's don't sound good, but most if not all of the newer ones don't have the real Twisted Tele neck pu. My buddy has a Baja that he got new last year, it has the shorter magnets , the neck pu sounds good but I've heard plenty of other Tele neck pu's that I liked just as well. |
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Friend of Leo's
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My John 5 tele was one of the earlier models and it came with the Twisted Tele. It is the best Neck pup I have ever heard in a tele.
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Tele-Holic
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 590
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anyone ever tested one of these on a multimeter?
I have one of the taller ones that came on a J5 but have yet to install it. It measures a 5.93k on my multimeter. This seems really low to me. Has anyone else measured this pickup?
How on earth does it stand up to the Enforcer in the J5 bridge? |
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Tele-Afflicted
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,495
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Twisted Tele neck pickups are wound with 42AWG wire while "traditional" Tele neck pickups are wound with 43AWG. Although its a low reading, its about equal to a traditional 43AWG neck pickup wound to 7k.
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TDPRI Member
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 24
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A couple of questions.
I have a twisted tele that came out of a CS Tele a while back that I'd like to put back in one of my guitars but I notice it has black, white and yellow wires and I can't for the life of me remember which is which! How should I wire it? Secondly has anyone paired this pickup with either a Lollar GVCG bridge or a Budz Purebred? OK...make it a few questions then! Does anyone happen to know what magnets were used in this pickup? |
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Tele-Holic
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Any pics of the long and short magnets? Also, why is it called 'twisted'? |
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: temple terrace, florida
Age: 21
Posts: 451
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well, the basic idea was to create a Telecaster neck pickup that doesn't have a lot of the common “problems” with more traditional Telecaster neck pickups, specifically: low output and a “muddy” sound. in order to get more output they used taller magnets, for both the increased magnetic strength and to make room for more wire on the bobbin, while for greater clarity they wound the pickup using larger gauge wire (for lower impedence/resistance/whatever, without losing power) and used a more transparent-sounding cover. i don't actually know how tall the magnets are (i read that they're from Jazz Bass pickups, though, if that helps), but the magnet wire is 42 gauge heavy Formvar coated (like on a Stratocaster), rather than the more traditional 43 gauge plain enamel coated, and the cover is made from chrome-plated nickel-silver, rather than the more traditional chrome-plated brass.
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TDPRI Member
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 24
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Poster Extraordinaire
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Seattle
Posts: 6,095
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I just picked up a used Baja, but the previous owner had swapped out the pickups for Harmonic Designs. Included with the sale was an SD Lil 59 and a tele neck pickup which I can't identify. How could I determine if it's a Twisted Tele pup?
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Tele-Holic
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Wash. DC. Humble Home of the Blackguard
Posts: 886
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Sounds like what they were trying to do was fix all the things that make a front tele pickup so unique and cool... IMHO...
Hmmm? another case of fixing something that wasn't broken? |
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Tele-Afflicted
Join Date: May 2005
Location: CHICAGO, IL.
Posts: 1,111
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Naaah, the original Tele neck pickups can have some issues, most notably, muddy tone or at least not as sparkling as they could be. I think that's why people like the Twisted Tele pups. That's also why I'm not crazy about the Stuart Blackguard neck pup. While I'm sure it's true to blackguard Tele specs, it's a bit too dark for my tastes. Personally, I prefer the Harmonic Designs "Chromotone" pickup for vintage sound with added sparkle and punch. I think it'll do everything the twisted Tele neck pup does and maybe more, so it may be good for those of you who can't find those Twisted Tele pups. For a loud, clear, full, Tele pickup, the Harmonic Design "Vintage Plus" is great too, but it's way louder and not as traditional sounding as the "Chromotone" and won't mix as well (volumewise) with vintage output Tele bridge pups. Bottom line is, check out Harmonic Design Tele neck pups if you're looking for a neck pup with added sparkle.
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: temple terrace, florida
Age: 21
Posts: 451
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they use over-sized (taller) AlNiCo 5 magnets, and as far as i can tell most seem to read out at just under 6k on an OHM meter. actually it's the larger gauge wire, but, yeah, they should have a higher output than a typical Telecaster neck pickup, even though they have a lower resistance (which has nothing to do with output, despite what most people seem to think!) |
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TDPRI Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: California
Posts: 77
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I'm just about to finish my thinline partscaster, all that I needed were some sweet PU's, I have a 86 MIJ 62RI that has the tele tone for sure.
So after reading this thread, I picked up a twisted tele neck PU and now I'm looking for it's mate for the bridge PU. I know that this is a subjective and highly contrversal topic, but if you had one what you think it's mate should be. ASH MIM Thinline, Deluxe Nashville Maple Neck, 250k pot .047Cap. Present PU are a 69 RI neck PU MIM, and a Hot Alnico, these just gotta go |
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TDPRI Member
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 24
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I've got the Twisted Tele/Broadcaster mix in my Copper Tele..the Twisted Tele is a very stratty neck tone compared to most Tele neck pickups...I really like it.
My fave bridge pickup though is still the GVCG Lollar A3 in my Blonde Tele. |
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TDPRI Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: California
Posts: 77
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I'm thinking that an HD 54 for the bridge position will be a great mate for the Twisted Tele PU.
I've looked at tha Baja Wiring for the twisted tele PU in one of the above posts *bangs head* that doesn't look like the standard 3way switch setup that I have. I would assume that the yellow and black wiring would remain the same, it's the green wire that's throwing me off. Any thoughts? |
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TDPRI Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 54
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I have a chimy, twangy 60s style pickup in the bridge position, and a stock Am. Std. neck pickup. The 60s pickup is quite a bit more trebly than the stock Am. Std. bridge pup.
Either way, there's a wonderful control on Teles called the Tone knob. I often have the bridge pup selected and have rolled the tone knob back to 50%-65% and there's plenty of tone. But then when I flick to the neck pickup it sounds muddy. My 1 second fix? Roll the tone knob back open again. Clears up the sound great. Open'er right up and it'll sound close to that compressed, snarling and shimmering Strat neck pup sound. Just my two cents
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I had the same problems with my CIJ `71 Tele. A DiMarzio Twang King neck pu - recommended by so many guys on this forum, thanks! - did the trick. All the clarity of a strat pu, yet warmer and not as hi-fi sounding and with a more singing midrange. The best thing - it`s cheap and readily available! The bridge pu is a Nocaster, a great combination IMO. |
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: CT
Posts: 491
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While you guys are contemplating the Baja pickups, I'll offer an observation made by me and my Tele playing buddies. The Baja tone circuit sucks tone right out of the pickups (weaker and thinner). The Baja pickups will sound even better when wired in a typical Tele circuit.
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