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Old March 4th, 2007, 10:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Adder pickups?

Anybody seen/heard/used them? Opinions, observations? Thanks!

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Old March 4th, 2007, 10:28 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Brad Paisley likes them... enough for me

I seem to recall that he has one neck Adder pickup and one Fralin Blues Special in the bridge of one of his Crook teles...
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Old March 4th, 2007, 10:30 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Found this link:

http://www.adderpluspickups.com/inde...1913&product=3
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I have! I have!

Both my Crook and my gold sparkle Buckocaster have one in the neck position.

USUALLY when I play those guitars, I pretty much flip the switch to the neck pickup and leave it there. I can dial in just about any sound I want with the tone knob. I only need to turn on the bridge pickup for those "twang emergencies" - which do arise from time to time.

I like them

Adder Plus is located in Des Plaines. That should be just about your backyard.
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Old March 4th, 2007, 11:26 AM   #5 (permalink)
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One of our customers specified an Adder neck pickup with a Fralin Blues Special in the bridge. Now I see he must have been paying attention to Brad Paisley.

Looks like Adder Plus' home office is within walking distance for us... I'm wondering how their pickups stand up to Lollars, Fralins, etc. I know I'll be getting one in the near future, but curious to see if it would be worth investigating the use of them in some other guitars. I haven't had an opportunity to try their pickups yet, but have only heard good things about them to date.
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Old March 4th, 2007, 11:32 AM   #6 (permalink)
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One of our customers specified an Adder neck pickup with a Fralin Blues Special in the bridge. Now I see he must have been paying attention to Brad Paisley.
I would agree Worse people to try to imitate tone-wise!!!
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Old March 4th, 2007, 11:35 AM   #7 (permalink)
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hi rich,
i got adder pickuops in all of my teles as neck pickup and i really like them.
they produce a fat warm and , most impotant, very well balanced sound. as well as single flip or together with the bridge pickup. therefore i use either fralin blues special or voodoo pickups. i also got the impression, that the adders are pretty strong compared to stock , because i really had to put them very low to get them volume balanced to the bridge pu.
i only can recommend them. to me, i ordereed them directly to have them shipped to germany, they were very friendly and helpful and very fast.
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they were very friendly and helpful and very fast.
the sign of a good business right there...
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Old March 4th, 2007, 01:55 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Ive used the Adders in a number of partscasters (neck pups) and they pair really well with with either Fralin blues special or a PF's Vodoo 60s bridge pups add a 4-way and it makes for a versatile twang machine with 2 positions that are noisless.

Just finished a USACG Tele in blonde 6 lbs 10 oz with this combination with a Fralin -Adder combo , the 4th position is great for use with pedals mucho body.

Melvin Lace builds the Adders , nice man.
Ive also used a set of his Strat pups and i wasnt pleasently suprised how good they sounded, i expected noisless performance and they had some pretty good bite to them.
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Old March 4th, 2007, 02:05 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I have an Adder Plus neck PU, and like others have said, it has a very strong output--comparable in output to a Fender Texas Special, but brighter, cleaner and less midrange. I currently have it mated with an OC Duff 7.5 Ohm Alnico 3 bridge, and although I have the Adder mounted quite low it is still overpowering the bridge PU a bit. You'll need to put something pretty strong in the bridge if you want to achieve the optimal balance (and best middle combo position sound).
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Old March 4th, 2007, 02:49 PM   #11 (permalink)
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so... this begs the question: does anyone actually use the bridge pickups from Adder?
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so... this begs the question: does anyone actually use the bridge pickups from Adder?


I think the Adder neck pup gained its popularity because Brad uses them in some of his teles. Never hear them mention anything about Adder bridge pups and rarely see or hear any reviews on any of the Adder pups on this forum..He has also use several other brands of pups,Fralins being one of them.
I am a big fan of SD single coil pups. I would be curious to know how an Adder neck and SD broadcaster would sound together.
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Old April 9th, 2007, 10:27 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Followup

I e-mailed the Adder rep, and it took him a week and a half to get back to me. He offered to sell to me at the ebay price of $85 per pickup, and said he would bring his personal Squier tele over for me to hear his neck pickup. This never happened. A couple of weeks later he called me and again told me how great the pickups are, and promised he would be in touch the following week. I haven't heard from him again. I asked him what the DC resistance was, and was told he doesn't get into the technical end of things. When I asked how many conductors he couldn't answer. Obviously, I haven't heard one yet- but I'm so turned off to them by their rep that I don't really care how good they might be.

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Old April 9th, 2007, 11:19 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Pretty sad state of affairs right there!
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I noticed that Brad uses a Seymour Duncan Hot Tele Neck pickup in the neck position of his Pink Paisley Tele. I wonder if this pickup would be reverse wound so you would get hum cancelling in the middle position if you used it with a Fralin Blues Special.
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Sorry to hear about your experience Rich. Perhaps the rep is flakey, but not the company itself. When you get the guitar built, please give us a report about the pickup. Their website offers some mojo adjectives about their patents and top secret designs, without offering any real information or details about he pickups. I'd love to know if any of that mumbo jumbo makes any sence to a pickup winder or builder.
http://www.adderpluspickups.com/inde...owse&pageid=26

I contacted their rep a while ago when I was considering the Adder. He was very friendly, but also offered no real info, said he doesn't understand much about the techy stuff and also told me they don't talk about DC resistance because its not really that revelant. He did suggest though, that I call the guy in charge (Mel). He said Mel loves to talk about the techy stuff and would answer any questions I had. I never called because I was only window shopping and didn't want to waste his time.

But I'm curious.
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Old May 18th, 2007, 11:33 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Adder First Class

I called Adder to order the neck pup for the partcaster that I’m building. I had questions about the pickup and the person that answered the phone said that they would have Mel (Melvin) call me after he got out of the washroom. He stated that Mel is handicapped, but that he would contact me. He did and was very patient with my questions. I called today to check on the status of the order, its shipping out today. Mel runs a first class business and will answer any questions that you have.
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Old May 19th, 2007, 07:12 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I had one a while back, it had great tone, but as mentioned above, seemed pretty hot (somewhere around 7k, if I remember correctly) , at least compared to the low power bridge pups I was using at the time, and was not a good match for me. With a hotter bridge pup like a 10K Nocaster, Fralin BS, Voodoo or even Duncan Broadcaster, I suspect it would be great,I was just into 5-6k pups at the time. Might be worth another try someday. Tone was great though, smooth and warm, plenty of treble, never muddy. Despite what others said above, I do not believe this is a noiseless design, like Lace pups, I'm pretty sure the Adder tele neck is a standard single coil, although about the quietset you'll find. If you want a tele neck pup with great tone, higher output, and shiny cover, I think its a winner.
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Old May 19th, 2007, 10:52 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I'm still waiting...

I haven't heard a word from them. I think I'll just buy one from their Ebay sale (always running) and forget about them. Too much aggravation to worry about a manufacturer whose main rep sucks. Maybe Mel is a good guy, I don't know. I don't have the time to sit and track somebody down after being ignored and lied to by his sales guy. Too bad, the factory is within 10 miles of my home.. I had high hopes, but they don't know how to deal with small builders. I can get the same customer service from Sam Ash or GC. Equal ignorance.
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To Adder's Defense

To Adder's defense, I will say this, we can sometimes be too quick to judge a company based on one persons experience. I was talking with Adder's sales guy about my pending order, this is what he told me is going on. I think that anyone that places value in their family will understand.
The sales guy's father is handicapped, just like the owner of Adder Plus. The sales guy's father had surgery and he let some appointments fall through the cracks. I think that if you look at their history, customer service is a priority for them. I'm sure that the problem was not intentional and that Adder Plus will follow up with the missed appointments. So let’s not beat up a person for taking care of their father.
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 12:25 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Hey Rich,

You should call Bryan at www.NorCalGuitars.com. I have some of his hand-wound pups, and they are fantastic.

Also, did you try Clint Searcy from www.SearcyStringWorks.com? Clint's a great guy, really knowledgeable. I use his Piper Tele bridge pickup. The thing has three wires - Chris would have a field day.

Tell them Dave from Mojocaster sent ya. I received great customer service from both those gentlemen.
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You should call Bryan at www.NorCalGuitars.com. I have some of his hand-wound pups, and they are fantastic.

Also, did you try Clint Searcy from www.SearcyStringWorks.com? Clint's a great guy, really knowledgeable. I use his Piper Tele bridge pickup. The thing has three wires - Chris would have a field day.

Tell them Dave from Mojocaster sent ya. I received great customer service from both those gentlemen.
I've been adding a separate ground wire to bridge pickups for years. The only way to get phase switching or series on some guitars.

I'll keep these guys in mind, although we've been doing very well with Jason Lollar and Lindy Fralin lately.
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Sounds good to me

Lollar & Fralin are both fantastic.

I still have a preference for Pete Biltoft at www.VintageVibeGuitars.com as well!
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Sounds good to me

Lollar & Fralin are both fantastic.

I still have a preference for Pete Biltoft at www.VintageVibeGuitars.com as well!
We've got a cool one in progress with a set of his SP-90A pickups that I'll send you some pics of when it's finished. So many excellent choices these days.
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Can't wait to get the pics!

You're right, great choices out there. Hard to go wrong!

Another one of my favorites: Owen at OC Duff.
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I've been adding a separate ground wire to bridge pickups for years. The only way to get phase switching or series on some guitars.
Sort of make you wonder why they arn't all that way. Dosn't it?
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50% increase in wire costs for something that maybe 10% of customers will use.
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50% increase in wire costs for something that maybe 10% of customers will use.
Well, yea... The cost per unit would be nominal. I have noticed that most Tele guys are rather traditional and 3 wire just isn't something most of them want to mess with. Give me a black wire, give me a white wire and give me some twang! It's not always the case, but it is most of the time. 10% sounds about right.
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Yeah, give me a black wire, give me a white wire, and I'll give it to my tech.

I tend to do phase switching on the neck pickup with a capacitor as a high-pass filter, giving a fuller low end in the out-of-phase setting and a bass reduction on the neck pickup by itself. Third wire there is where I usually go, plus the cover is easier to unground (I don't have to pull out the big guns).
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To Adder's defense, I will say this, we can sometimes be too quick to judge a company based on one persons experience. I was talking with Adder's sales guy about my pending order, this is what he told me is going on. I think that anyone that places value in their family will understand.
The sales guy's father is handicapped, just like the owner of Adder Plus. The sales guy's father had surgery and he let some appointments fall through the cracks. I think that if you look at their history, customer service is a priority for them. I'm sure that the problem was not intentional and that Adder Plus will follow up with the missed appointments. So let’s not beat up a person for taking care of their father.
I have been stewing about this post since I read it, and will not be silent any longer. I have been contacted by the rep since my last post on this thread, as he is watching it.

My mother was in a wheelchair for most of my life. She is the one who taught me that being handicapped is not an alibi for what you can't do, but rather an incentive to do all you can do, and take pride in accomplishments. I value family more than most, and have had my share of emergencies with four grown children and 32 years of marriage. It is my opinion that if an emergency situation should arise, notify your customers- and follow through. Arrangements can be made. I'm sure it was an oversight that he blew a couple of phone calls and did not follow up on his offer to show me his guitar. That is not a good way to start a business relationship. Forget about outside influences. Everybody has problems. Honestly, I would have been more receptive if he hadn't talked about the situation with an outside person and I had to read about it here. If he cared about my business, he would have thought of me before he got bad publicity.

I find myself in the unusual position that two customers now want an Adder neck pickup. I may be forced to use this resource, but don't know if I can get excited about helping out a guy who doesn't care about me. Lollar, Fralin, Don Mare, Vintage Vibe.. all follow through and keep their word.

Don't be lulled into an alibi. Either your word is good, or it isn't. Family has nothing to do with it.
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Sort of make you wonder why they arn't all that way. Dosn't it?
Great to see you here, Clint... I love that Piper pickup!
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Great to see you here, Clint... I love that Piper pickup!

I'm trying to fine tune my Tele stuff and thought this would be the place to learn what folks are looking for. I figure I would check in once in a while but I don't want to come off as trolling for sales.

I'm glad you dig the Piper. I have a new model in the works but it's not ready yet. I'll let you know when it is.
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The T300 will go in the neck of the Black & Silver Paisley Crook body and a Lindy Fralin Blues Special Hybrid will go in the bridge.

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I'm trying to fine tune my Tele stuff and thought this would be the place to learn what folks are looking for. I figure I would check in once in a while but I don't want to come off as trolling for sales.

I'm glad you dig the Piper. I have a new model in the works but it's not ready yet. I'll let you know when it is.
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Blues Specials are incredible. I have found my muse as far as tele bridge pickups are concerned. Still searching for a great neck pickup so I'm interested to hear what you think of the Adder.
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Blues Specials are incredible. I have found my muse as far as tele bridge pickups are concerned. Still searching for a great neck pickup so I'm interested to hear what you think of the Adder.
Its going to be about 4 -5 weeks before, Bill Crook is finish with the body and about the same for USA Custom Guitars to complete the neck. This is my firstbuild or partcaster. I ordered the hardware from Callaham and will use their Virtual Vintage Compensated saddles with steel on the low E&A strings and brass for the others.

I was sent a Strat. pickup from Lindy Fralin in error, but they quickly sent the correct one and included a tee shirt.
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So... has anyone compared these to the standard Lace T100 neck pickup? They seem to be similar technology-wise.
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I had better luck today, and received a prompt return call from the Adder rep. I placed an order for a couple of tele neck pickups. He was very nice on the phone. I hope the pickups are cool. More when they arrive.
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Old September 4th, 2007, 03:37 PM   #39 (permalink)
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I had better luck today, and received a prompt return call from the Adder rep. I placed an order for a couple of tele neck pickups. He was very nice on the phone. I hope the pickups are cool. More when they arrive.
Hey Rich, did you ever get the Adder neck pickup, and if so, how was/is it?
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Old September 4th, 2007, 03:46 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Yes, the Adders arrived in a timely fashion, and we have used one of them. It has a very strong output, and was a good blend with the Fralin Blues Special bridge pickup. A bit stronger than I would typically use, but perfect for our customer. He loves it. http://ricecustomguitars.20m.com/ins.../075bound.html
This went out before we started doing video clips, we're doing another one with almost the exact setup. I'll post some clips from that one.

Overall, the Adder is a very loud pickup, full and strong. Watch what you pair it with.
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