Stock Fender Pup I.D. Please

[bluezguy]

Hey,

I'm cleaning out my garage junk drawers and came across a set of Fender Tele pickups I forgot I had.
Can anyone tell me if they're American Standards or Mexicans?

Reason I don't know is 'cause I've had 8 American and 2 Mexican Teles since 1996 and I've always done the 'experimental thang' on all of 'em.

Numbers are part of the baseplate. The bridge is 048610 with yellow and black wires. The neck is 048609 with black and white wires.

Anybody know?? Thanks!

[Darrell]

MIM Standard pickups. (not classic series if it is wrapped in black mesh tape). If wrapped in white string, then it is MIM Classic.

[yegbert]

The Classic series pickups have blue ground leads.

[bluezguy]

Originally Posted by Darrell

MIM Standard pickups. (not classic series if it is wrapped in black mesh tape). If wrapped in white string, then it is MIM Classic.

The bridge has black & yellow vinyl leads but the pup itself is wrapped in black string. Fender customer support says those numbers are only the bobbin numbers and are used on all kinds of their pups.
He also suggested they may be Fender Japan re-issues... can anybody verify that???

Thanks.

[Darrell]

Japanesse RI's look nothing like the MIM standard or classic. MIJ's have string wrapped, baseplate, and no serial number.

The mim's have that number on the back...no baseplate.

[yegbert]

Originally Posted by Darrell

Japanesse RI's look nothing like the MIM standard or classic. MIJ's have string wrapped, baseplate, and no serial number.

The mim's have that number on the back...no baseplate.

The MIJ set I have is like Darrell described. Also, they have leads with vinyl insulation like MIMs but thinner guage; flatpoles and a textured surface bobbin top; and their outputs are ~6.5k bridge and ~7.5k neck. I got them third hand and they reportedly came from an MIJ '69 Reissue.

This is somewhat of a tangent from the original question, but is there more than one model of MIJ Tele pickups, and if so what are their differences?

I'm aware Fender Japan uses a couple of US-made pickup models, namely the Texas Specials and the A3 OVs.

But are there others used in MIJ Teles beyond those two, and a set like I described above?

[Wild Rice Chris]

Originally Posted by yegbert

This is somewhat of a tangent from the original question, but is there more than one model of MIJ Tele pickups, and if so what are their differences?

I'm aware Fender Japan uses a couple of US-made pickup models, namely the Texas Specials and the A3 OVs.

But are there others used in MIJ Teles beyond those two, and a set like I described above?

I've had a MIJ pickup that was tape-wrapped with a non-ferrous copper baseplate (no idea on the resistance) from a '98 MIJ Telecaster Deluxe, as well as a set similar to the ones you have (no idea on the origin beyond MIJ).

[bluezguy]

Originally Posted by bluezguy

Hey,

Numbers are part of the baseplate. The bridge is 048610 with yellow and black wires. The neck is 048609 with black and white wires.

Anybody know?? Thanks!

Awright... here we go... Thanks for all your inputs!!! Seems like I'm a bit crazy... I'm tryin' to I.D. 2 different sets of Fender pups and am mixing info - sorry .

The above 2 pups in the original question that have those baseplate numbers read Neck=8.65k, Bridge=7.50k with bridge being typical black material wrap.
Can someone measure resistance on their MIM's and post what they read? Again; Fender's customer support says this reading implies American Standard Tele pups. A lesser value of approximately 1 full point will/should be MIM's. (I don't know what to believe from their support staff.)

Now; the other set of unidentified Fender pups are exactly as Darrell and yegbert have described to a 'T' ... which reminded me of when I won an eBay auction 3 years ago for a pair of pups out of a '62 Custom Tele Reissue Fender Japan from a guy who pulled 'em out for something else.
I just installed them this morning in my test partscaster and I FLIPPIN' LUV THEM!!!
Furthermore, I added a 4-way switch. I am really smoked! A few days ago, I ordered a set of Nocaster pups in my quest of balls rhythm tones as in Black Crowes & Keith Richards. These '62's are pretty close... we'll see.
Again, thanks for all your support - that's what makes this forum stand out way above the rest.

[yegbert]

Originally Posted by bluezguy

The above 2 pups in the original question that have those baseplate numbers read Neck=8.65k, Bridge=7.50k with bridge being typical black material wrap.
Can someone measure resistance on their MIM's and post what they read? Again; Fender's customer support says this reading implies American Standard Tele pups. A lesser value of approximately 1 full point will/should be MIM's. (I don't know what to believe from their support staff.)

All of the MIM single coils I've used were ~6.4k bridge (005-5216-000 flatpole and 005-3676-000 staggerpole) and ~8k neck (005-3678-000), which are used in the Classic Series Teles and the Hwy 1 Tele. I haven't owned any other MIM pickups to measure.

[Darrell]

The first set of pups sounds like a combination. The bridge is American Standard...but the neck is not. The AS neck pup is a much lighter wind than 8+k. It probably has the 04... number on it...but not on the bridge. It is probably and MIM standard neck pup.

Your second set is MIJ. Yes, there is reason to love them. Not too bright, nicely balanced.

Just my .02

(Although I do not have a meter, 7.5k is what I am told the AS bridge unit comes in at.)