Just got a tele, what year sound do I want?

benbo · February 7th, 2006, 10:20 PM

Hi everybody, I just got a tele, actually a tele copy that i'm going to do some tinkering with, new neck, bridge, finish etc....and not sure what tone i'm looking for. Since I wind my own pickups i want to make sure I get the tone that is in my head and not waste a lot of time and wire getting the tone im looking for. My question is this, i'm looking for the tone that Allen Jacksons Tele player gets and or Brad Paisley. I know playing is a lot of it and amp choice, what im looking for is, model or year of telecaster, what type pickup, it's traits as far as tone goes and if possible the DC resistane of the pickup.
Thanks for any help. :D

TY · February 7th, 2006, 11:07 PM

Well, as you already know 90% of it is in the hands, but I would guess you'd be any type of good tele tone. The only thing similar between Brent Mason's and Paisley's tone is that they are both VERY compressed. Get a good compressor pedal to nail the Mason, and get a nice compressed EL84 amp to nail the Paisley.

BB · February 9th, 2006, 09:12 PM

Yeah Ben...hard to pin down as Brent Mason ( the tele player on AJ's records ) uses a Duncan Stack in the bridge and a strat pup in the middle so he can blend them. But, he's able to nail the tone ( hell, define the tone! ) of older teles ala Vince Gill and Steve Warnier. So, tough call. I'd opt for a more vintage wind though in the high 5's to mid 6's and try A3 mags. And please, keep in mind I have no idea what I'm talking about! If you want to send me aset for testing though, I'll be more than happy to oblige!!

benbo · February 9th, 2006, 10:04 PM

I have a tele bridge pickup I wound the other day for it and cant decide if thats what I want or not. The problem is the guitar. It's a tele clone, a samick of all things, got it real cheap. I hate the cheap bridge on it, it has issues of the strings having terrible dead moments due to the crap bridge, the saddles not sitting right, not contacting the bridge plate, the pickup route is made i guess only for samick pickups because a standard size pickup wont sit down in the cavity so it stays up close to the strings and i cant get a fair representation of the true sound of the pickup. I am going to make the route bigger, change bridges with a fender bridge i saved from a previous real fender i owned, wish i never sold that one. New electrics, new neck, etc... all the upgrades i can do to it. So yes I would be glad to let you test it out, if you like it we can work something out, if not send it back and we can try another, if you dont mind.
Take care and thanks. :)

petebradt · February 10th, 2006, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by benbo

My question is this, i'm looking for the tone that Allen Jacksons Tele player gets and or Brad Paisley. I know playing is a lot of it and amp choice, what im looking for is, model or year of telecaster, what type pickup, it's traits as far as tone goes and if possible the DC resistane of the pickup.
Thanks for any help. :D

Brothah Fezz, should I say it?

benbo · February 10th, 2006, 04:24 PM

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BB · February 10th, 2006, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by petebradt

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Originally Posted by benbo

My question is this, i'm looking for the tone that Allen Jacksons Tele player gets and or Brad Paisley. I know playing is a lot of it and amp choice, what im looking for is, model or year of telecaster, what type pickup, it's traits as far as tone goes and if possible the DC resistane of the pickup.
Thanks for any help. :D

Brothah Fezz, should I say it?

I would venture a guess that it may have something to do with Hamel pups!

However, Benbo is a killer winder himself. I've had the pleasure of trying one of his tele bridge pups
( thanks Larry! ) and man, it was GOOD! I also have one of his custom wound P-90's ( thanks again Larry! ) to sample as soon as I have time to cut a guard to fit.

ramseybella · February 13th, 2006, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by benbo

I have a tele bridge pickup I wound the other day for it and cant decide if thats what I want or not. The problem is the guitar. It's a tele clone, a samick of all things, got it real cheap. I hate the cheap bridge on it, it has issues of the strings having terrible dead moments due to the crap bridge, the saddles not sitting right, not contacting the bridge plate, the pickup route is made i guess only for samick pickups because a standard size pickup wont sit down in the cavity so it stays up close to the strings and i cant get a fair representation of the true sound of the pickup. I am going to make the route bigger, change bridges with a fender bridge i saved from a previous real fender i owned, wish i never sold that one. New electrics, new neck, etc... all the upgrades i can do to it. So yes I would be glad to let you test it out, if you like it we can work something out, if not send it back and we can try another, if you dont mind.
Take care and thanks. :)

Building a Killer Guitar from A chepo Body will cost you more than buying a real one!! But when your finished you will never get rid of it, For one thing you cant get your money back and second it's the best guitar you have ever had!! (turning a $100.00 guitar into a $600.00 guitar thats worth $150.00!!) I have two

ramseybella · February 13th, 2006, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TY

Well, as you already know 90% of it is in the hands, but I would guess you'd be any type of good tele tone. The only thing similar between Brent Mason's and Paisley's tone is that they are both VERY compressed. Get a good compressor pedal to nail the Mason, and get a nice compressed EL84 amp to nail the Paisley.

I bought this 18watt Reverb Twin EL-84 Head Hand wired with a 4X8 cab from a small company in A-Bomb Town Los Alamos New Mexico called Bonepicker Amplifiers, bonepickerguitaramps.com this thing makes my DR-Z hide int the basement so Hi-Fi sounding and reverb to die for! This amp nails the sound your looking for in aces , with so much touch going on with this amp a fly could land on your string and you would know it, makes you realy want to play better. Not with the company but you guys may want to chek them out.

February 7th, 2006, 10:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
benbo Tele-Holic Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hampton, Va Age: 44 Posts: 775	Just got a tele, what year sound do I want? Hi everybody, I just got a tele, actually a tele copy that i'm going to do some tinkering with, new neck, bridge, finish etc....and not sure what tone i'm looking for. Since I wind my own pickups i want to make sure I get the tone that is in my head and not waste a lot of time and wire getting the tone im looking for. My question is this, i'm looking for the tone that Allen Jacksons Tele player gets and or Brad Paisley. I know playing is a lot of it and amp choice, what im looking for is, model or year of telecaster, what type pickup, it's traits as far as tone goes and if possible the DC resistane of the pickup. Thanks for any help. :D __________________ Benny Trevillian. 90% of it is in the hands..

February 9th, 2006, 10:04 PM	#4 (permalink)
benbo Tele-Holic Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hampton, Va Age: 44 Posts: 775	I'll take you up on that one BB. I have a tele bridge pickup I wound the other day for it and cant decide if thats what I want or not. The problem is the guitar. It's a tele clone, a samick of all things, got it real cheap. I hate the cheap bridge on it, it has issues of the strings having terrible dead moments due to the crap bridge, the saddles not sitting right, not contacting the bridge plate, the pickup route is made i guess only for samick pickups because a standard size pickup wont sit down in the cavity so it stays up close to the strings and i cant get a fair representation of the true sound of the pickup. I am going to make the route bigger, change bridges with a fender bridge i saved from a previous real fender i owned, wish i never sold that one. New electrics, new neck, etc... all the upgrades i can do to it. So yes I would be glad to let you test it out, if you like it we can work something out, if not send it back and we can try another, if you dont mind. Take care and thanks. :) __________________ Benny Trevillian. 90% of it is in the hands..

February 10th, 2006, 04:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
benbo Tele-Holic Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hampton, Va Age: 44 Posts: 775	?? ??? __________________ Benny Trevillian. 90% of it is in the hands..

February 7th, 2006, 11:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
TY Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hell-A Posts: 304	Well, as you already know 90% of it is in the hands, but I would guess you'd be any type of good tele tone. The only thing similar between Brent Mason's and Paisley's tone is that they are both VERY compressed. Get a good compressor pedal to nail the Mason, and get a nice compressed EL84 amp to nail the Paisley.

February 9th, 2006, 09:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
BB Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2003 Location: Pacific NW Age: 53 Posts: 3,141	Yeah Ben...hard to pin down as Brent Mason ( the tele player on AJ's records ) uses a Duncan Stack in the bridge and a strat pup in the middle so he can blend them. But, he's able to nail the tone ( hell, define the tone! ) of older teles ala Vince Gill and Steve Warnier. So, tough call. I'd opt for a more vintage wind though in the high 5's to mid 6's and try A3 mags. And please, keep in mind I have no idea what I'm talking about! If you want to send me aset for testing though, I'll be more than happy to oblige!!