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Rockhead · June 30th, 2012, 12:47 PM

Just got the shipping notification for my keystones!! On his wiring section Bill says he starts with 500k pots and .022uf caps even for his single coils then adds a resistor if it needs to be adjusted. Any of you Keystone guys out there use 500k pots instead of 250k? Was just going to get 250k CTS pots but I do have 375k Fender pots I could use.

jackal · June 30th, 2012, 01:23 PM

I've used the Keystones with 250K pots, no problems, plenty bright. The .022uf caps are fine also. The Fezz/Greene wiring mod also works well with these pups, caps, and pots.

PunkKitty · June 30th, 2012, 05:13 PM

I use 250k pots with .047 caps. They sound great!

honeycreek · June 30th, 2012, 09:02 PM

I prefer 250k with a .022uf cap with Keystones. I had 500k at first and ended up changing them to 250k's.

Higgs F. Boson · July 3rd, 2012, 10:04 PM

I just ordered a set of Keystones...planning to use the stock 250k pots.

dsutton24 · July 3rd, 2012, 10:21 PM

I'd try the 375Ks. I've only got one set of Keystones, and they're in my 12 string Telecaster. Between the Telecaster twang and the 12 string jangle, 250K was the only sane way to go.

Derek Kiernan · July 4th, 2012, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockhead

Just got the shipping notification for my keystones!! On his wiring section Bill says he starts with 500k pots and .022uf caps even for his single coils then adds a resistor if it needs to be adjusted. Any of you Keystone guys out there use 500k pots instead of 250k? Was just going to get 250k CTS pots but I do have 375k Fender pots I could use.

Bill uses 500k pots so he can drop the values down to a variety of values during testing. The Keystones are free of shorts that destroy highend. If you've never used them or Bill's other products (which also have superior highs vs other options on the market), you're going to want to stay with 250k pots and even possibly put some time into readjusting your amp (and likely turning down the treble!). Be sure to set up with the nickel method for the proper bridge and neck heights.

sjtalon · July 4th, 2012, 09:11 AM

250K and .022µF works for me.

Rockhead · July 5th, 2012, 08:56 PM

Thanks all for the info. They just came in today. Gonna try and drop 'em in this weekend. Going from GFS pups to Bill Lawrence. I'm thinking there will be a slight improvement!

sjtalon · July 6th, 2012, 07:56 AM

Did ja get a 4 way switch too ??

Rockhead · July 6th, 2012, 08:25 AM

I'll pick that up when I get the 250k CTS pots.

sjtalon · July 6th, 2012, 10:24 AM

Good move !!

Higgs F. Boson · July 21st, 2012, 05:25 PM

I got my Keystones - took about a week. I love em already! To me they sound like a Telecaster is supposed to sound. They replaced EMG-T's, which I still think are cool, but definitely don't have the "vintage Tele" mojo. The Keystones do, but they are also clear and smooth, so I'm not missing the EMG's at all.

250k CTS pots. Next mod is going to be the 4-way switch.

KyAnne · July 21st, 2012, 06:03 PM

Keystones are clear with a bell-like clarity.

TeleRichie · July 23rd, 2012, 07:21 PM

Love Keystones, clear quiet sweet sounds. In my partscaster have 250 CTS w/ .033 cap, sounds great.

SixShooter · July 23rd, 2012, 07:36 PM

I am currently rebuilding my Tele that has Keystones in it and 250k pots. I like them alot but I am a bit of a treble junkie so when I put it back together I plan to use 300k pots and possibly convert the tone pot to no load. I imagine most people like them as is with 250k however.

Anyone running 300k or 500k pots with their Keystones?

1962guitargeek · July 23rd, 2012, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TeleRichie

Love Keystones, clear quiet sweet sounds. In my partscaster have 250 CTS w/ .033 cap, sounds great.

mine does also, in a Classic Vibe pine body...sounds great

sjtalon · July 23rd, 2012, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SixShooter

I am currently rebuilding my Tele that has Keystones in it and 250k pots. I like them alot but I am a bit of a treble junkie so when I put it back together I plan to use 300k pots and possibly convert the tone pot to no load. I imagine most people like them as is with 250k however.

Anyone running 300k or 500k pots with their Keystones?

I'm wondering of 300K would do a heck of a lot, as far as brighter ??

May be in the middle would be better....375 ?

http://www.allparts.com/Fender-375K-...7-3133-000.htm

wrathfuldeity · July 23rd, 2012, 09:33 PM

250k, 4 way, .01 piw and pu's set real low

gatimberframer · July 23rd, 2012, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sjtalon

250K and .022µF works for me.

That a 4 way and the Greene/Parka for me. No lack of highs to my ear. 500k would be a bit bright methinks.

June 30th, 2012, 12:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
Rockhead TDPRI Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Collingdale, PA Posts: 77	Bill Lawrence keystones Just got the shipping notification for my keystones!! On his wiring section Bill says he starts with 500k pots and .022uf caps even for his single coils then adds a resistor if it needs to be adjusted. Any of you Keystone guys out there use 500k pots instead of 250k? Was just going to get 250k CTS pots but I do have 375k Fender pots I could use.

June 30th, 2012, 01:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
jackal Tele-Holic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: mojave desert Age: 62 Posts: 610	I've used the Keystones with 250K pots, no problems, plenty bright. The .022uf caps are fine also. The Fezz/Greene wiring mod also works well with these pups, caps, and pots. __________________ Used to be a Gibson-holic, but recovering nicely with Teles.

July 3rd, 2012, 10:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
Higgs F. Boson Tele-Holic Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Birmingham, Alabama Age: 39 Posts: 685	I just ordered a set of Keystones...planning to use the stock 250k pots. __________________ "Someone in the newspaper said that it was art." -Nick Lowe

July 3rd, 2012, 10:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
dsutton24 Friend of Leo's Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,755	I'd try the 375Ks. I've only got one set of Keystones, and they're in my 12 string Telecaster. Between the Telecaster twang and the 12 string jangle, 250K was the only sane way to go. __________________ Yet another hobby that is completely out of control...

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Higgs F. Boson Tele-Holic Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Birmingham, Alabama Age: 39 Posts: 685	I got my Keystones - took about a week. I love em already! To me they sound like a Telecaster is supposed to sound. They replaced EMG-T's, which I still think are cool, but definitely don't have the "vintage Tele" mojo. The Keystones do, but they are also clear and smooth, so I'm not missing the EMG's at all. 250k CTS pots. Next mod is going to be the 4-way switch. __________________ "Someone in the newspaper said that it was art." -Nick Lowe

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June 30th, 2012, 05:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
PunkKitty TDPRI Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Chicago Age: 48 Posts: 88	I use 250k pots with .047 caps. They sound great!

June 30th, 2012, 09:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
honeycreek Tele-Holic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: OH Age: 32 Posts: 691	I prefer 250k with a .022uf cap with Keystones. I had 500k at first and ended up changing them to 250k's.

July 4th, 2012, 09:11 AM	#8 (permalink)
sjtalon Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Upper Peninsula of Michigan Age: 54 Posts: 6,638 7 Photos	250K and .022µF works for me.

July 5th, 2012, 08:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
Rockhead TDPRI Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Collingdale, PA Posts: 77	Thanks all for the info. They just came in today. Gonna try and drop 'em in this weekend. Going from GFS pups to Bill Lawrence. I'm thinking there will be a slight improvement!

July 6th, 2012, 07:56 AM	#10 (permalink)
sjtalon Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Upper Peninsula of Michigan Age: 54 Posts: 6,638 7 Photos	Did ja get a 4 way switch too ??

July 6th, 2012, 08:25 AM	#11 (permalink)
Rockhead TDPRI Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Collingdale, PA Posts: 77	I'll pick that up when I get the 250k CTS pots.

July 6th, 2012, 10:24 AM	#12 (permalink)
sjtalon Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Upper Peninsula of Michigan Age: 54 Posts: 6,638 7 Photos	Good move !!

July 21st, 2012, 06:03 PM	#14 (permalink)
KyAnne Tele-Meister Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Money,MS Posts: 334	Keystones are clear with a bell-like clarity.

July 23rd, 2012, 07:21 PM	#15 (permalink)
TeleRichie Tele-Meister Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Pasadena CA Age: 60 Posts: 118	Love Keystones, clear quiet sweet sounds. In my partscaster have 250 CTS w/ .033 cap, sounds great.

July 23rd, 2012, 07:36 PM	#16 (permalink)
SixShooter Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cincinnati Age: 46 Posts: 1,855 2 Photos	I am currently rebuilding my Tele that has Keystones in it and 250k pots. I like them alot but I am a bit of a treble junkie so when I put it back together I plan to use 300k pots and possibly convert the tone pot to no load. I imagine most people like them as is with 250k however. Anyone running 300k or 500k pots with their Keystones? __________________ . "Something entirely new in the electric Spanish guitar field..."

July 23rd, 2012, 09:33 PM	#19 (permalink)
wrathfuldeity Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Turdcaster, WA Age: 54 Posts: 317	250k, 4 way, .01 piw and pu's set real low

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