Dead Tonerider bridge. Happen to anyone else?

[littlericky]

I see it's common on CVC model pickups. I was playing this morning and the bridge pu just went really quiet. Not completely silent. But next to no output. Tested the swtch and it's fine.

[TNO]

If you have a soldering iron you could try re-flowing the solder joints at the pickup and switch.

[motor_city_tele]

I would work backwards from the jack.

If you know the amp, cord, jack, and switch are good.
unsolder the pickup hot lead from the switch.

do a resistence check at the leads

do a resistence check at the eyelets

both should read 7k or so (at least they should read the same)

If they are different - check the eyelets where they are attached to the leads.

If you get good reading at both areas - then the switch, pots are suspect.

If your bypass the switch and pots and solder the pickup directly to the jack, you will know for sure.

BTW if you don't feel comfortable removing the leads from the switch, then have a buddy or qualified fix-it person check it for you.

[jefrs]

No it is not a common fault with Tonerider, they are well made.
Which model pickup?
http://www.tonerider.com/index.html

It does sound like a solder or pot fault.

Re-flow all the solder joints with tin/lead using a lead-free high temperature bit on the iron. Check the pots.
No need to remove the pickup yet, just flip the tele control panel.

Do not overlook your stage lead, they quite often go wrong because they get tugged about. Swap it out for another and check straight into the amp, no pedals.

[dada]

Well it happened on my CVC bridge pickup, and all evidence points to them being the same pickup as Toneriders. Fender sent me a replacement. I didn't try and reflow the solder. It definitely was the pickup. There seems to be an awful lot of CVC pickup failures.

[sjtalon]

hey dada, how long did that take ?

[dada]

Originally Posted by sjtalon

hey dada, how long did that take ?

Bought new in May....

[Piotr]

I think it should be explicitly stated that you do not mean that a Tonerider pickup failed, but a pickup in your CVC Squier failed. Although it seems that these are manufactured in the same factory, it is unfair for Tonerider to state things that way - especially that there were a few reports of Squier pickups failing, but I do not recall any Tonerider pickup failing being reported around here.

[musicalmartin]

I was probably one of the first using Toneriders on this forum and I have never had one fail yet .very high quality I should think Tonerider will be fuming as the Squier pickups are not Tonerider pickups just very similar .Maybe there is a dud batch out there of CVC bridge pickups where the winding wire was pulled too tight and it has expanded and contracted over a sharp edged base plate where it runs to the solder join .My only suggestion .My CVC pickups are fine .

[sjtalon]

Originally Posted by Piotr

I think it should be explicitly stated that you do not mean that a Tonerider pickup failed, but a pickup in your CVC Squier failed. Although it seems that these are manufactured in the same factory, it is unfair for Tonerider to state things that way -

here here


I bought a CV Thinline last March and have my fingers crossed........so far so good.

[littlericky]

Sorry if I wasn't completely clear but it was never stated that I owned a Squier CVC. I don't, I own a set of Tonerider pickups.

I've seen in the forums that there is a common issue many CVC owners have regarding bridge pickups that suddenly die. I've also seen in the forum that CVC pickups and Tonerider pickups are built in the same factory, using the same materials,machinery and the same machinery operators.

I understand the Toneriders are built to different specs than CVC pickups but they still have much in common.

My question is "Have any Tonerider users experienced the same issue where the bridge pickup suddenly goes bad as some CVC owners have"?

I've got a partscaster. In the partscaster are a set of Tonerider "Hot Classics". The pickups were purchased about 4 years ago, were in an Aerodyne Tele for about a week and then put back in their boxes till this past summer when they were installed in the partscaster.

Playing yesterday I switched to the bridge pickup (TRT2B)and the sound level dropped considerably, not completely silent but it was obvious all wasn't right. My first thought was the 4 way. Postitions 1&3 was bad , positions 2&4 were both neck pickup only. I play in the morning before work and didn't have time to investigate till this morning.

First disconnected the pickup from the switch and tested, no continuity between hot and ground. Pulled out the pickup and tested at the eyelets, same reading. The pickup is obviously bad internally. No big deal I was just looking for a little insight before I had a chance to fully investigate. thanks

[Piotr]

Sorry for the confusion and thanks for the clarification. Hope you get it sorted out fine. Seems though like the pickup is dead...

[motor_city_tele]

There is still one more chance to save it before an entire rewind.

take a good close look at the wires that go from the eyelets to the coil. If there is a broken connection, it would be repairable. if the wires are clearly still attached to the eyelets, then it might be a good time to see what the inside of a pickup looks like.

I would keep it and have it rewound, or even rewind it yourself. If you have a sewing machine, then you have a pickup winder.

[sjtalon]

Originally Posted by littlericky

I've seen in the forums that there is a common issue many CVC owners have regarding bridge pickups that suddenly die.

ya true, the problem is you don't have anybody (the thousands) starting a thread that says:

Hey my CV pickups are working.

[jefrs]

If you are lucky and it is the outer winding then you can release a turn of wire to make good the coil.

Hard to say what causes these breaks other than the coil wire is very fine, and it has been in and out of one guitar and into another - guitars vibrate. To be honest, you can spend £40 fixing it / having it fixed (an hours cheap labour) or £35 for a new one.

[Mark Moore]

My question is "Have any Tonerider users experienced the same issue where the bridge pickup suddenly goes bad as some CVC owners have"?

No. I have several sets of TR pickups and they all function as designed.

If there is a problem, I personally would never rule out operator error.

[slapshot]

i think tonerider make some fantastic underrated often overlooked pickups.
same as wilkinson hardware.

[dada]

Well I'm not trying to diss Tonerider pickups, but there is a lot of evidence pointing to the CV pickups being identical to Tonerider. Here is a great link that gets into this....

http://www.strat-talk.com/forum/squi...r-pickups.html

[dada]

on the other hand I could be full of it.....

http://www.tdpri.com/forum/telecaste...akes-them.html