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tattoedsailor · August 13th, 2011, 04:42 PM

Just like title says.. I got a set of Seymour duncan Antiquity II in my Tele. Love the bridge, but the neck is real bass heavy a little muddy sounding. I've read that depending on how guitar is wired makes difference in how neck pup sounds. I think its wired to 50's vintage which might explain why its so muddy.. Any suggestions would be great. It might just be the pickup.. If so I might start looking for something that's a little brighter sounding. Recommendations?

musicmatty · August 13th, 2011, 04:48 PM

Check out Ebay for a CS Texas Special neck pickup or and American Standard neck pup..there both AlNiCo 5 pups..The 5s have that nice Glassy sound. Mixing and matching pups is a good thing in my opinion. Good luck

Heres my neck position @ 1:50 into the video..this is the CS Texas Special pups.

Teleterr · August 13th, 2011, 05:06 PM

I have some Velvet Hammers that are AlNiCo 2 and it is sort of muddy in the neck.With only 4.9 DC resistance.Good output tho.

Teleterr · August 13th, 2011, 05:08 PM

Or doesn't the 2 refer to the magnets?

rangercaster · August 13th, 2011, 05:12 PM

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I think its wired to 50's vintage

that would explain a muddy sound ... how does it sound in the middle position ??? have it modified to the modern wiring config before you spend your money on pickups !!!

Teleterr · August 13th, 2011, 05:28 PM

What changed in the wiring ?

Never mind I was thinking I was in the Strat Forum

'56Teleman · August 13th, 2011, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rangercaster

that would explain a muddy sound ... how does it sound in the middle position ??? have it modified to the modern wiring config before you spend your money on pickups !!!

Exactly, 50's wiring leaves the neck pup muted. You need to wire it to modern, or 60's, specs, then the tone control will work with both pickups.

tattoedsailor · August 13th, 2011, 07:52 PM

All right looks like its 60's specs.. Looks like theres a treble bleed also.

Axis29 · August 14th, 2011, 06:47 AM

Try lowering the pickup?

tattoedsailor · August 14th, 2011, 10:15 PM

I may just get a Dimarzion Twang King for the neck... I just put a set in a buddy's guitar. Love that neck pickup. Is their any special wiring instructions that I should know about when mixing Dimarzio & Seymour Duncan? I'm going keep the SD bridge.

kp8 · August 14th, 2011, 10:21 PM

Take the cover off.

rokdog49 · August 15th, 2011, 10:32 AM

You'll probably like the Twang King. I have a "Rumplestiltskin" Blues Special (no cover) in the neck of my other Tele and it is brighter and has more oomph! It's my fave' between the two. Had the stock Mexican pups in both b4 and they came out immediately.

tattoedsailor · August 15th, 2011, 11:09 AM

^^ I all ready heard the pup. I installed them in friends guitar. My chin about hit floor when I heard the Twang king neck.. I just picked one up for $45 @ local store.

uriah1 · August 15th, 2011, 12:41 PM

Not sure about Duncan and DImarz, but, Fender/Duncan do not play well.
Have to reverse wires.

Narcoleptigon · August 15th, 2011, 01:07 PM

Before changing PUP's, reduce the C (Capacitance) -load on the PUP via a lower C cable. I find ~200pf to work well with most PUP's. Your amp may have C on the input. Check the schematics. That C should be factored into the total C-load. Seriously, C-load makes a notable difference. It's no different than a tone knob.

Hoopermazing · August 15th, 2011, 01:26 PM

Installing a GFS Fatbody pickup and doing this to the pickup cover significantly livened up my neck pickup situation. The stock pickup was muddy even for jazz, IMO.

* The image is of boneyguy's guitar... which is where I got the idea.

Roku · August 15th, 2011, 02:34 PM

One thing I did with my stock mim alnico v I believe was to just take that cover off. Scrape all that wax out. Had it uncovered for a while liked it, very very bright. I just put the cover back on. Sounds great actually. Taking all that wax out really cleared it up.

August 13th, 2011, 04:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
tattoedsailor TDPRI Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: San Diego, CA Age: 41 Posts: 63	Neck Pup real muddy Just like title says.. I got a set of Seymour duncan Antiquity II in my Tele. Love the bridge, but the neck is real bass heavy a little muddy sounding. I've read that depending on how guitar is wired makes difference in how neck pup sounds. I think its wired to 50's vintage which might explain why its so muddy.. Any suggestions would be great. It might just be the pickup.. If so I might start looking for something that's a little brighter sounding. Recommendations?

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Axis29 Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Virginia, USA Age: 45 Posts: 3,324 1 Photos	Try lowering the pickup? __________________ John F. TDPRI # 1764 Please check out the Fredericksburg Blues Society or, if you're really bored, A year in Guitar

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uriah1 Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: toledo Posts: 5,780	Not sure about Duncan and DImarz, but, Fender/Duncan do not play well. Have to reverse wires. __________________ A person who won't read has no advantage over one who can't read..... Mark Twain

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Narcoleptigon Tele-Holic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: MA USA Age: 49 Posts: 998	Before changing PUP's, reduce the C (Capacitance) -load on the PUP via a lower C cable. I find ~200pf to work well with most PUP's. Your amp may have C on the input. Check the schematics. That C should be factored into the total C-load. Seriously, C-load makes a notable difference. It's no different than a tone knob. __________________ Does learning to make the best of what you have require learning how it functions?

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Hoopermazing Tele-Holic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Royal Oak, MI U.S. of A. Posts: 925	Installing a GFS Fatbody pickup and doing this to the pickup cover significantly livened up my neck pickup situation. The stock pickup was muddy even for jazz, IMO. * The image is of boneyguy's guitar... which is where I got the idea. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Hoopermazing; August 16th, 2011 at 12:32 PM.

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August 13th, 2011, 04:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
musicmatty Friend of Leo's Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Maryland Age: 45 Posts: 3,886 9 Photos	Check out Ebay for a CS Texas Special neck pickup or and American Standard neck pup..there both AlNiCo 5 pups..The 5s have that nice Glassy sound. Mixing and matching pups is a good thing in my opinion. Good luck Heres my neck position @ 1:50 into the video..this is the CS Texas Special pups.

August 13th, 2011, 05:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
Teleterr Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Lewes De. Posts: 1,656 5 Photos	I have some Velvet Hammers that are AlNiCo 2 and it is sort of muddy in the neck.With only 4.9 DC resistance.Good output tho.

August 13th, 2011, 05:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
Teleterr Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Lewes De. Posts: 1,656 5 Photos	Or doesn't the 2 refer to the magnets?

August 13th, 2011, 05:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
Teleterr Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Lewes De. Posts: 1,656 5 Photos	What changed in the wiring ? Never mind I was thinking I was in the Strat Forum

August 13th, 2011, 07:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
tattoedsailor TDPRI Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: San Diego, CA Age: 41 Posts: 63	All right looks like its 60's specs.. Looks like theres a treble bleed also.

August 14th, 2011, 10:15 PM	#10 (permalink)
tattoedsailor TDPRI Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: San Diego, CA Age: 41 Posts: 63	I may just get a Dimarzion Twang King for the neck... I just put a set in a buddy's guitar. Love that neck pickup. Is their any special wiring instructions that I should know about when mixing Dimarzio & Seymour Duncan? I'm going keep the SD bridge.

August 14th, 2011, 10:21 PM	#11 (permalink)
kp8 Friend of Leo's Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Seoul, Korea Posts: 4,671	Take the cover off.

August 15th, 2011, 10:32 AM	#12 (permalink)
rokdog49 Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Ohio Age: 63 Posts: 1,274 2 Photos	You'll probably like the Twang King. I have a "Rumplestiltskin" Blues Special (no cover) in the neck of my other Tele and it is brighter and has more oomph! It's my fave' between the two. Had the stock Mexican pups in both b4 and they came out immediately.

August 15th, 2011, 11:09 AM	#13 (permalink)
tattoedsailor TDPRI Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: San Diego, CA Age: 41 Posts: 63	^^ I all ready heard the pup. I installed them in friends guitar. My chin about hit floor when I heard the Twang king neck.. I just picked one up for $45 @ local store.

August 15th, 2011, 02:34 PM	#17 (permalink)
Roku Tele-Meister Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Canton ga Posts: 198	One thing I did with my stock mim alnico v I believe was to just take that cover off. Scrape all that wax out. Had it uncovered for a while liked it, very very bright. I just put the cover back on. Sounds great actually. Taking all that wax out really cleared it up.

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