Ideas for Nashville Tele S-1 wiring

[RatherBeFishing]

What are the potentials of a Nashville Tele with the S-1 Switch?

All ideas with schemes are welcome.

Thanks

[RatherBeFishing]

Does anyone understand how the S1 works?

[Casual_Reader]

I did this just as a mental puzzle, but it shows the connections for an S-1. The mid of each of the 4 sets is the common - the outer two the up and down (labeled there as s and p for series and parallel)

[RatherBeFishing]

Hey

Thanks a bunch. That looks great and has everything I'd like.

Ideally, I would like exactly the same S1 UP configuration and this S1 Down configuration:

5: N
4: M+N -S
3: M
2: B+M -S
1: B

[cc9cii]

Here is one I drew ealier (thread):

[RatherBeFishing]

Originally Posted by cc9cii

Here is one I drew ealier (thread):

Cool! So it works just the same with the tele's tone circuit?

I have one of these



Is it possible with it or do I need to get a double wafer super switch?

Thanks

[cc9cii]

With a single wafer switch, your options are limited. I'll have to think about what is possible.

And I forgot to mention that double wafer switch doesn't fit well inside a tele control cavity. On mine I had to make a custom control plate, as I didn't want to route/chisel the wood.

[cc9cii]

What you want appears doable with a single wafer switch. I'll try to draw it up by the weekend.

[RatherBeFishing]

Originally Posted by cc9cii

What you want appears doable with a single wafer switch. I'll try to draw it up by the weekend.

Thanks so much! I look forward to seeing the results. This Nashville tele will be a monster and I'll be able to actually use that single wafer switch I've had laying around for so long.

[cc9cii]

Try this. There are some long lengths of wires, care should be taken s.t. they don't end up acting as antennas. If you're not used to wiring complex stuff I would suggest taking it to a competent tech.

[RatherBeFishing]

Originally Posted by cc9cii

Try this. There are some long lengths of wires, care should be taken s.t. they don't end up acting as antennas. If you're not used to wiring complex stuff I would suggest taking it to a competent tech.

Won't I need to use an extra ground wire for the series neck+bridge? I can do it with the neck or the bridge pickup but prefer the neck. Where should that extra wire go?

I think that I can manage this with a proper schematic. I've wired a double fat strat using two push pull pots for phase shifting and coil splitting capability. It took a while but still works!

You've helped me make the guitar of my dreams and I cannot thank you enough. You have no idea how excited I am about this one. My thoughts are that I will have a nashville and then something like a Tele Deluxe with the push of a button.

Your understanding of the S1 switch is really ahead of the curb. I think that even fender has underutilized this unique piece of equipment.

[RatherBeFishing]

Also, I may end up using an uncovered keystone neck pickup. That will not require the extra shield ground, right?

[cc9cii]

No extra ground required for neck or bridge. With this scheme, the middle pickup's ground wire is switched for the 'series' settings. Typically the middle pickups don't have shield covers, anyway.

[RatherBeFishing]

Ah, I meant series neck/mid (if there was neck pickup cover) which I think you understood. Sounds great, I need to order a pickguard from warmoth so it will be a little while but I will let you know how it turns out.

Thanks!

[jlerhun]

Originally Posted by TheBear

My thoughts are that I will have a nashville and then something like a Tele Deluxe with the push of a button.

The diagram cc9cii did is great, but if one happen to have only a normal push-pull pot (not S-1) and a full superswitch, this may help :



It lacks Middle pickup alone, but has Neck and Bridge in series.

Some other ideas :
http://www.geocities.jp/dgb_studio/3svari2_e.htm#61
http://www.geocities.jp/dgb_studio/3svari2_e.htm#58
http://www.geocities.jp/dgb_studio/3svari2_e.htm#32 (w/ standard 5-way)
http://www.geocities.jp/dgb_studio/3svari2_e.htm#21

[RatherBeFishing]

Originally Posted by TheBear

Won't I need to use an extra ground wire for the series neck+bridge? I can do it with the neck or the bridge pickup but prefer the neck. Where should that extra wire go?

I think that I can manage this with a proper schematic. I've wired a double fat strat using two push pull pots for phase shifting and coil splitting capability. It took a while but still works!

You've helped me make the guitar of my dreams and I cannot thank you enough. You have no idea how excited I am about this one. My thoughts are that I will have a nashville and then something like a Tele Deluxe with the push of a button.

Your understanding of the S1 switch is really ahead of the curb. I think that even fender has underutilized this unique piece of equipment.

Hi again

is it possible with this?
http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Electron...h_E-Model.html

Has anyone used one of these? Will it really help cut down on noise?

Thanks

[Casual_Reader]

Originally Posted by TheBear

Hi again
Has anyone used one of these? Will it really help cut down on noise?

I believe that claim is mostly for using one coil from each HB in the middle position - using coils that are reverse wound in relation to each other cancels noise. I'm not sure, but I think that particular switch has a hardwired jumper on the pcb that makes it different than a normal 5 way. Using that switch wouldn't allow you the series options you want.

Noise canceling - with 3 (non-noiseless) single coils, you're going to have to decide what you want well in advance.

having the B&N pups wound oppositely to each other with their poles reversed gives you canceling in the middle (B&N, in your 5-way) position. Most Tele sets of B&N are reverse wound - designed for a 2 pup guitar. Then you have to choose which way the mid pup is wound - opposite the b or the n. Opposite to the bridge makes the B&M position noiseless, but not the M&N.... and vice versa.

having both the B&N pups wound the same and the M opposite to both gives you noiseless in the B&M and M&N - but not the B&N.

it's going to depend on what positions you think you'll be spending the most time and what's available in the pick-ups you like... mostly the latter (unless you have them custom wound).