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Old January 12th, 2010, 11:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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60's Bakersfield sound wanted !

Hey , maybe you guys can help me with this : I have been looking for a pickup for my parts Esquire.I currently have a Fralin in it,I love it but I am looking for a pickup to replicate that Buck Owens/Don Rich/Roy Nichols 60's Bakersfield sound. I have read that Buck and Don played 64 and 66 Teles. Any brands/models that would replicate this particular sound ? I have looked at Illusion pickups and they are about to come up with 60's Tele p/us replicas. Any suggestions ???
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Old January 12th, 2010, 11:07 AM   #2 (permalink)
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How about a Don Mare taped PUP, get your Buck and your Brad in one PUP
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Old January 12th, 2010, 11:33 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Try OC Duff pups or Voodoo pups. They both offer a specific 60's winds and they only get stellar reviews up and down on here. Neither are very cheap, though, but you tend to get what you pay for.
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How about a Don Mare taped PUP, get your Buck and your Brad in one PUP
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Old January 12th, 2010, 11:51 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Don Mare all the way...

But, to be honest with the right amp and EQ you'll get there with what you already have.
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Old January 12th, 2010, 12:18 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Try steel saddles on there too. Threaded nickle plated Fenders will do...

Just yesterday I rewired a Tele with a 1Meg Vol and put in a 250k Tone, no tone control previously. It has the steel nickle plated Fender saddles already. I also Fex Parkered the tone, but I do that on everything. This Tele has stacked SC PUPs. I put a 6 position rotary, 3 positions both coils in each, and 3 positions 1/2 of each coil. The 1/2 [top] coils is darn Bakerfield, but using the full PUP [both coils in each PUP] is modern and then some. So 8.5/10k or 5/4.25k 1/2ed. Have to roll the tone back on the 1/2 coils.

But hey, that is the bakerfield Tele tone, 1/4 tone turn away from Ice-pick right? ;)

My best of both in one guitar. ;)

Best part is how each [1/2 VS full PUP] gets passed through the SD-1 I use to mid up the sigal when using a distortion pedal for Brit. Pretty happy so far, over all bright, but hoping to ty it out live soon, should get this sucker to cut well. ;)
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Old January 12th, 2010, 12:40 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Wow ! Thank you guys for such a quick and spot-on response ! It will be tough to decide between the Mare Bakersfields and OC Duff Buckaroos ... Any one of you guys already have these in one of your Teles ?
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Old January 12th, 2010, 12:48 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Go tapped, this way you have 2 PUPs in a one PUP git. ;)

See who has the quickest turn over. Also, possibly either may have something that came back available you can grab fast. Get on the horn I say.

Or try out a stacked PUP with some wiring ticks while you wait for a Mare PUP, most of his orders take a while. Last I looked at his site, I think he was on a 5-6 week back log.

Well 'back' is not a fair term to use really [sorry Don] , "making custom pickups ain't like crop dusting kid..."

Guys busy enough to have a lead time of 6 weeks are probably 'that' busy for a good reason, no? ;)
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For affordable options, the Fender 62 is a good choice. Staggered polpievces and plenty of twang. The Mare's are great pickups, so are OC Duff's. FWIW I offer what I call Oildale Specials, and they're pretty damn twangy.
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Old January 12th, 2010, 01:30 PM   #10 (permalink)
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For affordable options, the Fender 62 is a good choice. Staggered polpievces and plenty of twang. The Mare's are great pickups, so are OC Duff's. FWIW I offer what I call Oildale Specials, and they're pretty damn twangy.

And for the 65.00 space bucks, you get the threaded saddles 'and' the twangy PUP. Bakersfield in a box ? ;)

You don't even need the change the plate, but you can anyway. If your current plate is a little thicker you could/should get more twang with the plate that is included in that link too.
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Exactly Robert. That's a damn good deal for a real 60's setup.
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Old January 12th, 2010, 01:57 PM   #12 (permalink)
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cool. My plate is the spare one that came with my 52' reissue, the one with the 6 saddles that just says "Fender". I've heard that a lot of pros use "cheap" Fender plates cuz they are good... But i guess you need a thinner plate , is that what you're sayin ?
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It increases the clank. Which is a good thing.
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Old January 12th, 2010, 02:08 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I am saying a thinner plate should/would/could help in the twang dept IMO.
They one with that PUP may be the same thickness as the oe on your Tele already of course. SOmeone may know the thickness of the one that sez 'Fender' only over the ones that are PatPend, but I do not.... I may have once but do not remember. ;)
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Just getting out of the recording studio, I was going to share my thoughts.

I feel like we used great mics and super equipment and it was one of the nicest studios I've ever been in... let alone record in. How I sounded didn't translate exactly into the recording. I guess what I'm trying to say is that part of that 60s sound is the recording environment and mics used. To me if you get the guitar with the sound you like and an amp with a sound you like (and you know what they were using), maybe we shouldn't be concerned with matching our sound to the actual recordings.. the exact sound. Does that make sense to any of you?
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yes, I get what you're saying. You are probably right.
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Old January 12th, 2010, 03:41 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I like my plate and saddles, though. It is the 6 saddles bridge which I like for intonation purposes. I have a Trussart Steelcaster and I find the 6 saddles is a nice feature. What are your thoughts on 3 saddles vs 6 ,btw ? and threaded saddles vs regular ones ? I know I sound totally ignorant, but anyway ...
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Those Trussart Steelcasters look beautiful. Did you already post pics? Did it come with a 6 saddle bridge?
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Not to hijack this thread, but for a Bakersfield sound, did they use a Bassman + reverb, echo, or neither; or did they simply use a Twin?
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Old January 12th, 2010, 04:58 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I put a Don Mare Bakersfield (custom with non-staggered poles) in my parts Esquire and it sounds great. It's a frustratingly dark guitar and this pickup gives me more spank and twang than any other I've tried.
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